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#11201 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 27 June 2019 - 06:50 AM

it’s 35 officers. I wrote the wrong number earlier.

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Posted 27 June 2019 - 06:52 AM

That's a lot of manpower being paid, but not working.


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Posted 27 June 2019 - 06:56 AM

it’s 35 officers. I wrote the wrong number earlier.

 

Just how violent are the people VicPD is picking up off the streets that 35 officers are on leave at any given time?


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#11204 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 27 June 2019 - 07:06 AM

other than family leave it’s likely mostly stress / mental health. not physical injury. and I’m sure just as in any profession with very generous medical leave provisions there is some employees that abuse the generosity of the plan.

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Posted 27 June 2019 - 09:12 AM

Serious crimes unit investigates aggravated assault

2019-06-27 10:04 PDT

File # 2019-11906

The West Shore RCMP Serious Crimes Unit is currently investigating a report of an aggravated assault.

The incident took place during the late evening hours on June 26th 2019, at the Ruth King Elementary School grounds, located at 2764 Jacklin Road in Langford.

This investigation is in the very early stages and many resources have been deployed to assist the investigators. We will provide updates to the public and the media as the investigation advances, said Cst. Nancy Saggar, Media Relations Officer.

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Posted 27 June 2019 - 10:00 AM

Michael Mulligan is on CFAX right now saying how difficult it is to overcome issues related to falling behind in providing policing services and keeping enough officers on the roster.


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#11207 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 27 June 2019 - 10:08 AM

is he suggesting that not having “patrol” officers just cruising around looking for trouble rather than attending call after call after call is leading to burnout? or is it finding dead people and notifying family etc. is leading to mental stress time off?

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Posted 28 June 2019 - 02:08 PM

https://www.vicnews....ia-area-couple/

 

 

UPDATED: Washington man found guilty of 1987 murders of Victoria-area couple

Tanya Van Cuylenborg and Jay Cook of Saanich, B.C., were found dead in 1987

 

hard article to read it's black press everett.  

 

but it's interesting.


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Posted 28 June 2019 - 04:19 PM

https://www.kiro7.co...urder/962010760

 

They went to the same high school as I did. They were nice kids. I hope this brings some comfort to their families. 

Apparently the original investigating officer broke down in tears when he was told that their killer had been caught. I am sure these kind of cases haunt the investigators. 



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Posted 28 June 2019 - 07:23 PM

To be fair to Del, he inherited the job during the most turbulent time in the force’s recent history.

And while he’s trying to build the force back up council decided they wouldn’t cover his $600,000 (or whatever it is) medical plan expense that they covered for all other municipal employees.

He’s also having to tip toe around Esquimalt’s position that it doesn’t care for additional funding as they perceive that money as being headed to Victoria.

He has a tough job and he’s being exceptionally cordial, all things considered. He’s trying.

And don't forget, Del is doing his part by handing out tickets personally.


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Posted 28 June 2019 - 08:03 PM

And don't forget, Del is doing his part by handing out tickets personally.

 

Well he already handed out his annual ticket for tossing a cigarette so he's pretty much freed up?



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Posted 02 July 2019 - 02:22 PM

Saanich police ask for information on armed robbery at Chevron station Saturday

 

https://www.timescol...rday-1.23873680

 

Does it seem like this is a new(ish) normal?  The number of armed robberies (especially gas stations) seems to have escalated in the last year or so.  Or is that some sort of cognitive bias at work?



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Posted 02 July 2019 - 02:28 PM

Got the gas and dash down to zero though.

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Posted 02 July 2019 - 04:01 PM

Got the gas and dash down to zero though.

 

How about:1) No cash, so there is no cash to steal and 2) pre-pay to enter the store (e.g. tap your CC or DC at the door).  If you buy nothing (e.g. just use the washroom or change your mind) then it will be refunded on the way out.

 

Hey, we forced people to pre-pay for gas and there is no legal requirement for stores to accept cash, so don't think it can't/won't happen.  Even kids have tap debit cards.
 

It wouldn't stop all "shrinkage", but it might eliminate the the armed robbery opportunity.

 

Please proceed to ravage the idea.  I'll be back later.


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Posted 02 July 2019 - 04:10 PM

How about:1) No cash, so there is no cash to steal and 2) pre-pay to enter the store (e.g. tap your CC or DC at the door).  If you buy nothing (e.g. just use the washroom or change your mind) then it will be refunded on the way out.

 

Hey, we forced people to pre-pay for gas and there is no legal requirement for stores to accept cash, so don't think it can't/won't happen.  Even kids have tap debit cards.
 

It wouldn't stop all "shrinkage", but it might eliminate the the armed robbery opportunity.

 

Please proceed to ravage the idea.  I'll be back later.

 

it was 10am. i think the suspect would have probably simply chosen another target.  grocery store pizza place bank etc.



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Posted 02 July 2019 - 04:37 PM

DustMagnet to be honest your avatar scares me a little....plus it looks like the bank robber.
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Posted 02 July 2019 - 04:46 PM

How about:1) No cash, so there is no cash to steal and 2) pre-pay to enter the store (e.g. tap your CC or DC at the door). If you buy nothing (e.g. just use the washroom or change your mind) then it will be refunded on the way out.


Hey lets tap our credit cards at the door to do all our shopping, before we shop!

Awesome idea! <sarcasm>

There, you got your wish.
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#11218 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 02 July 2019 - 04:54 PM

you might say costco has reduced shrinkage by using a similar model.

 

https://www.groceryd...-shrink/555998/

 

    • Costco is leading competitors when it comes to combating in-store theft, reporting that its shrinkage rate was just 0.11% to 0.12% of sales compared to the 1.33% that retailers on average lost in 2017, according to Business Insider.
    • In its 2018 annual report, Costco said it mitigates theft through store layout, limited entrances and exits and its membership model, which helps the store control inventory. 

     

     


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Posted 02 July 2019 - 05:11 PM

Across the industry, retailers have tried to automate systems and tighten up their operations to prevent product loss. Aisle-scanning robots being piloted by Walmart, Schnucks and other retailers can track sales velocity and identify products with inaccurate price tags. In the Netherlands, Ahold Delhaize ispiloting a system that discounts products as they reach their sell-by date.

 

Tech-based checkout options like self-checkout kiosks and scan-and-go could make it more tempting for shoppers to skip paying for some items, and retailers will need to reevaluate how they limit shrink and monitor theft activity. But new retail technology also adds the ability to more closely trace products and track shopper activity, so while people may feel it's easier to walk out without paying, retailers should have more tools available to reduce shrinkage.

 

 

the line i bolded there would seem like a no-brainer.  



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Posted 02 July 2019 - 06:49 PM

DustMagnet to be honest your avatar scares me a little....plus it looks like the bank robber.

 

Don't sneeze on the coke mirror.  Trust me.

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They've switch to putting explosive chalk packs in with the cash now.


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