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#1 VicHockeyFan

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Posted 18 December 2017 - 08:24 AM

 
Amtrak train derails on highway in Washington
 
CBS News affiliate KIRO-TV reports first responders are treating the derailment as a mass casualty incident. Authorities have not yet provided details on injuries.

 

 
 

 


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#2 VicHockeyFan

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Posted 18 December 2017 - 08:26 AM

Amtrak tweeted that it was train No. 501 in its inaugural run that derailed.

 

 

Tough first day.  


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Posted 18 December 2017 - 08:40 AM

Boy, Amtrak has had a bad stroke of luck the past little while. I was in an Amtrak train wreck a couple of weeks ago in Ventura California. The guy in the car didn't make it.

 

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Our cabin car ended up in the crossing where the vehicle was schmucked.

 

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#4 VicHockeyFan

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Posted 18 December 2017 - 08:51 AM

I'm listening to Seattle radio.

 

Eye witnesses say at least 2 cars came over, maybe 3. One is upside down. Corridor was to have trains up to 80kmh, this is first day of higher speeds.


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#5 Bingo

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Posted 18 December 2017 - 08:54 AM

Folks who think they can sneak through a yellow light while driving shouldn't try to sneak under the crossing barrier at a railway crossing.



#6 Mike K.

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Posted 18 December 2017 - 08:58 AM

Word of fatalities now. Crazy.


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#7 VicHockeyFan

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Posted 18 December 2017 - 08:58 AM

It looks as though it's a Seattle > Portland > Eugene express.


Edited by VicHockeyFan, 18 December 2017 - 08:58 AM.

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Posted 18 December 2017 - 09:00 AM

All trains move to new inland route between Tacoma and Olympia

OLYMPIA – Just in time for the holidays, WSDOT is starting two additional Amtrak Cascades daily roundtrips between Seattle and Portland. Beginning Monday, Dec. 18, extra morning and evening trains will run in both directions – for a total of 12 trains every day.

 

“People can get where they’re going sooner, with more schedule choices and better reliability,” said Ron Pate, WSDOT Rail, Freight and Ports Division director.

 

This permanent change to the Amtrak Cascades schedule means travel time between the two cities will be reduced by 10 minutes to 3 hours and 20 minutes, thanks to the rerouting of trains between Tacoma and Olympia and the upgrading of tracks and signal systems. The new route takes trains on an inland corridor parallel to Interstate 5 through Tacoma, Lakewood, Joint Base Lewis-McChord, and DuPont. It eliminates a major chokepoint for passenger trains near Point Defiance in Tacoma and separates them from freight trains that will continue to use the old waterfront route. The results are shorter travel times and greater on-time reliability.

 

“WSDOT worked closely with many partners over the last six years to prepare for these new schedules. Dec. 18 marks a major milestone for passenger rail service in the Pacific Northwest,” Pate said. “While the scenic beauty of the Point Defiance route can’t be denied, we know passengers will appreciate the ability to make easier, and more reliable, day trips between Seattle and Portland. Spectacular water views are still available for passengers between Seattle and Vancouver, British Columbia.”

https://www.wsdot.wa...-starting-dec18


Edited by VicHockeyFan, 18 December 2017 - 09:00 AM.

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#9 VicHockeyFan

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Posted 18 December 2017 - 09:01 AM

OK, 2 on the ground, 1 dangling, and 2 or more still on the track, one eye-witness says.


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#10 Mike K.

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Posted 18 December 2017 - 09:27 AM

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#11 Bingo

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Posted 18 December 2017 - 09:46 AM

Multiple deaths reported.

https://www.cbsnews....y-live-updates/

 

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#12 VicHockeyFan

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Posted 18 December 2017 - 09:48 AM

Oh dear, ya that bottom one is upside down.
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#13 Bingo

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Posted 18 December 2017 - 09:52 AM

A sharp curve was where it happened.

http://www.kgw.com/n...o-i-5/500305839



#14 VicHockeyFan

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Posted 18 December 2017 - 09:54 AM

There is likely no curve on the bridge. So that’s no factor.
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#15 Bingo

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Posted 18 December 2017 - 10:02 AM

There is likely no curve on the bridge. So that’s no factor.

 

"We had just passed the city of DuPont and it seemed like we were going around a curve," Karnes said.

"All of a sudden, we felt this rocking and creaking noise, and it felt like we were heading down a hill.

 



#16 Mike K.

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Posted 18 December 2017 - 10:05 AM

Was the train north or southbound?

 

If southbound there is no curve ahead of the bridge, but there is a curve after the bridge. Leading up to the bridge it's all straight.


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#17 VicHockeyFan

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Posted 18 December 2017 - 10:07 AM

Southbound towards Portland. Rarely do bridges have curves. I know they do sometimes, but it’s only when they have a very rare geographic barrier.

Edited by VicHockeyFan, 18 December 2017 - 10:08 AM.

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#18 Mike K.

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Posted 18 December 2017 - 10:09 AM

Ok, so it entered the bridge from a straightaway.

 

The second bridge, the one that crosses the northbound lanes, is curved. But it's also a very small bridge.


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#19 shoeflack

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Posted 18 December 2017 - 10:10 AM

This bridge doesn't have a curve on it, but there is a curve directly on either side of the bridge that could have played a role in the derailment, no?



#20 VicHockeyFan

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Posted 18 December 2017 - 10:12 AM

Probably not much if at all. Your car is no longer having forces apply to it after you leave s curve, for example.

Edited by VicHockeyFan, 18 December 2017 - 10:13 AM.

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