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[Harris Green] The Dalmatian | Victoria No. 1 Firehall | Rentals, office space | Completed - Built in 2023


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#581 Mike K.

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Posted 16 January 2021 - 04:31 PM

It’s neat, isn’t it?

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#582 Promontory Kingpin

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Posted 16 January 2021 - 05:53 PM

It really is a nice touch. I hope that more developers follow suit with these folks and Cielo’s historically educational display around their Customs House site. This approach is much nicer visually then just a standard unsightly construction fence that has become the norm.
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#583 zoomer

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Posted 10 April 2021 - 03:10 PM

From today: Firehall Rising

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#584 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 14 April 2021 - 04:17 AM

It’s an important milestone for what would be a significant building for Victoria during a major natural disaster, such as an earthquake.

 

https://www.timescol...sing-1.24306986

 

 

“The size of the rebar and the amount of concrete is incredible,” Victoria Mayor Lisa Helps said Tuesday after a tour of the site. “This is preparing for the future. This building will stand for hundreds of years.”

 

The fire hall and emergency centre are designed to withstand a massive quake and will meet new B.C. Building Code standards for buildings designed to remain operable following a disaster, giving it a seismic design load that is significantly higher than typical commercial buildings. After an earthquake, the building — equipped with high-capacity backup generators — will be able to deliver emergency services.

 

There will be fire and ambulance bays at street level, emergency operations centre and fire department headquarters on the second floor, office space on the third and 130 units of affordable rental housing on the remaining floors. Pacifica Housing will own and operate the top eight storeys.

 

 

 

 

 

lisa helps is an idiot.


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#585 RustyNail

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Posted 14 April 2021 - 10:08 AM

“The size of the rebar and the amount of concrete is incredible,” Victoria Mayor Lisa Helps said Tuesday after a tour of the site. “This is preparing for the future. This building will stand for hundreds of years.”

Hundreds of years? That is quite a claim.

#586 spanky123

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Posted 14 April 2021 - 10:41 AM

Hundreds of years? That is quite a claim.

 

Buildings can stand for hundreds of years as much of Europe, Asia and the Middle East has proven. Our problem isn't how long a building can physically remain in place, it is how long before some politician wants to make his/her mark.


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#587 RustyNail

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Posted 14 April 2021 - 04:58 PM

Buildings can stand for hundreds of years as much of Europe, Asia and the Middle East has proven. Our problem isn't how long a building can physically remain in place, it is how long before some politician wants to make his/her mark.

Were those buildings built in the modern concrete style, with rebar inside that can potentially rust and decay long before 100 years has passed?

Interesting article discussing concrete and rebar construction, from 2016.

https://theconversat...-concrete-56078

"Early 20th-century engineers thought reinforced concrete structures would last a very long time – perhaps 1,000 years. In reality, their life span is more like 50-100 years, and sometimes less. Building codes and policies generally require buildings to survive for several decades, but deterioration can begin in as little as 10 years."

I'm not a construction expert though. Anyone on the forums able to shed light on what they do in modern construction to prevent rebar from rusting and causing "concrete cancer"?

#588 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 14 April 2021 - 05:09 PM

what most can assure is that that building will not last “hundreds of years” despite what our expert mayor says.

I know she went to China to inspect the steel for the bridge though. that lets me sleep well at night.

#589 DavidSchell

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Posted 07 August 2021 - 09:49 AM

Starting to take shape:

 

 

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#590 spanky123

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Posted 07 August 2021 - 12:09 PM

^ The firehall portion of the development is apparently a fixed price contract with the City. I wonder if so much margin was built into the projects that the Jawls are fine?



#591 zoomer

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Posted 07 October 2021 - 09:30 PM

Taken today:

51563048097_d513aa68cd_h.jpgNew Johnson Street Fire Hall and Housing by JohnnyJayEh, on Flickr

51563051157_d4b9663b90_h.jpgJohnson Street Construction - New Firehall by JohnnyJayEh, on Flickr

51564532929_74ff8a0524_h.jpgJohnson Street - Jawl Residential Construction by JohnnyJayEh, on Flickr
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#592 Darren14

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Posted 16 October 2021 - 07:16 PM

The dealership under the Carsons will need to move within two years, there's no packaging or flipping taking place.

 

How else would they have built out the project if not following a relocation of the dealership?

 

We're coming up on two years, any word on where Mazda is heading? 



#593 Mike K.

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Posted 16 October 2021 - 07:19 PM

Yes, it sounds like the old Glenoak dealership.

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#594 Darren14

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Posted 16 October 2021 - 07:21 PM

Yes, it sounds like the old Glenoak dealership.

 

Across from Shark Club on Douglas? 



#595 Mike K.

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Posted 17 October 2021 - 07:04 AM

Yes, that’s the latest I’ve heard in that regard.

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#596 amor de cosmos

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Posted 17 October 2021 - 07:51 AM

concrete needs regular maintenance like any other material. people think it's indestructible, that's one reason old-school brutalist buildings are in terrible shape, and often get torn down.
 

When Boston City Hall was built in 1968, critics were put off by the concrete style. It was called “alienating” and “cold.” And since it was a government building, this criticism became impossible to remove from politics. Boston City Hall became a political pawn as mayors and city council members vied for public support with promises to tear it down.

 

But tearing down Boston City Hall has never come to pass. Doing so would take an incredible amount of effort and money. And so, government officials have largely chosen to ignore the building. This so-called active neglect happens with a lot of concrete buildings—they are intentionally unrenovated and uncared for. Which only makes the building more ugly, and then more hated, and then more ignored. It’s a vicious cycle wherein the public hate of a building feeds on itself.

 

When people built these mammoth concrete structures, no one really thought about maintenance, because they seemed indestructible. In the early days of concrete, people assumed it was an everlasting material that wouldn’t require any further attention. This has not proved true. But, it can be hard to tell when concrete needs repairing, because its decay is not visible on the surface. Concrete deteriorates chemically, from the inside out. Part of this has to do with the metal rebar reinforcements that help to hold up most concrete buildings. The rebar can rust, and the rust can eat away at the overall structure.

http://www.slate.com...from_roman.html


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#597 Kilo95

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Posted 17 October 2021 - 09:05 AM

Has the city said what they'll do with the existing fire hall location on Yates once they've transferred over to the new building?



#598 Mike K.

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Posted 17 October 2021 - 10:16 AM

It would make sense for them to either provide the land to a housing agency like CRHC, or sell the land to offset the cost of the upcoming Pandora Avenue facility.
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#599 spanky123

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Posted 17 October 2021 - 10:23 AM

It would make sense for them to either provide the land to a housing agency like CRHC, or sell the land to offset the cost of the upcoming Pandora Avenue facility.

 

I am sure there has already some a closed door deal cut at $20 per BSF.


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Posted 17 October 2021 - 12:36 PM

When do we get details on the next parcel in this development?

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