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#41 Rob Randall

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Posted 08 April 2018 - 09:10 AM

But the truck wasn't going full speed as he had the stop sign, right? At most he would have been going 30 kph as he got that monster load up to speed. Unless he blew the stop sign but that seems unlikely as the plant was only a half hour away so he should have been familiar with the route unless he was new to the job.

 

This is a Twitter comment from someone that apparently has a similar job:

 

This is a super B loaded with peat moss, I drive this every day and it’s scares the s*** out of me. Especially when that weighed at most 130,000 lbs. Sometimes I think I chose the wrong career after seeing this horrific accident.

 


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#42 VicHockeyFan

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Posted 08 April 2018 - 09:15 AM

Oh, I think he blew the stop sign.  There is absolutely no debris on highway #35.  I think they were both at very full speeds.  


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#43 Rob Randall

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Posted 08 April 2018 - 09:25 AM

I've only driven in Victoria and that type of prairie intersection is completely foreign to me: two clear, flat, straight shots like that. In this city, even in rural areas, there are so many twisty roads, rolling hills and hidden driveways that being on the lookout for surprise oncoming traffic becomes second nature.


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#44 VicHockeyFan

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Posted 08 April 2018 - 09:39 AM

Here's some good peat moss reading for the day:

 

http://ensign.ftlcom.../industry/peat/

 

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#45 VicHockeyFan

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Posted 08 April 2018 - 09:40 AM

Twenty two pallets of peat bales are packed onto “B” trains and shipped to market. Almost all of the Carrot River production is sold in the United States with very little competition. The peat is of high quality and very much in demand although, sales are higher when the loonies is lower in value. For some time “Moneys” mushrooms in California was using a “B” train of Carrot River product a day. However, the poorer economic climate in the United States since 2008 has seen the demand for mushrooms decline, simply because it is luxury product.


With the present bogs now in production and ones being developed in the Hudson Bay area, the company has about 100 years of production available.

 

 

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#46 todd

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Posted 08 April 2018 - 11:09 AM

Coconut coir is trying to take over the market, the argument being peat is not renewable. (had a bad experience with peat don't put peat into a wooden planter near the house as somebody will inevitably put something flammable out in it and 5 hours later it will fully ignite.)


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#47 VicHockeyFan

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Posted 08 April 2018 - 11:22 AM

$3.7M.   That's $127,000 per bus passenger, alive and dead.

 

One couple put up $25,000.

The Pittsburgh Penguins chipped in $20,000. 

Flames and Maple Leafs $10,000 each. 


Edited by VicHockeyFan, 08 April 2018 - 11:27 AM.

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#48 VicHockeyFan

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Posted 08 April 2018 - 11:32 AM

The bus driver is dead.  That likely means there will always be a bit or mystery about the crash.

 

http://www.cbc.ca/ne...ctims-1.4609856

 

So the coach, the assistant coach, the driver and two radio station guys are dead.

 

So only 10 players are dead.  Well, only 8 named so far.  I guess it's likely they had an equipment manager and at least a trainer onboard too.

 

I think the SJHL has a roster limit of 23, or maybe 24 if they get to add a playoff goaltender.  


Edited by VicHockeyFan, 08 April 2018 - 11:38 AM.

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#49 VicHockeyFan

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Posted 08 April 2018 - 04:45 PM

$144,000 per passenger now.

$4.2M.
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#50 VicHockeyFan

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Posted 08 April 2018 - 08:27 PM

$4.6M.


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#51 VicHockeyFan

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Posted 08 April 2018 - 09:02 PM

$4.629M

 

About 88,000 people donated $11M to the Vegas shooting victims fund, largest GoFundMe of 2017.

 

Humboldt is at 67,000 donors.  


Edited by VicHockeyFan, 08 April 2018 - 09:06 PM.

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#52 VicHockeyFan

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Posted 09 April 2018 - 07:18 AM

$5,035,000.

 

Officials mixed up two players, one they thought was dead is alive, and vice versa.  Yikes.


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#53 spanky123

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Posted 09 April 2018 - 09:59 AM

Every week, 40 Canadians die in MVAs. Why do we become so fascinated with cases like this? It is because they were hockey players, that 14 died, or something else?



#54 VicHockeyFan

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Posted 09 April 2018 - 10:05 AM

Every week, 40 Canadians die in MVAs. Why do we become so fascinated with cases like this? It is because they were hockey players, that 14 died, or something else?

 

1.  they were young

2.  they are from small towns

3.  they were all friends

4.  we can relate even if we've never played hockey

5.  the percentage killed is very high for a non-fire, non-roll-over-a-cliff type of crash

6.  it would appear at least 29, or maybe even all 30 of the people involved were not in any way at fault

 

And a combination of other factors...

 

Like it or not (sometimes I hate it), hockey is mixed in with our national identity.


Edited by VicHockeyFan, 09 April 2018 - 10:07 AM.

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#55 Jackerbie

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Posted 09 April 2018 - 10:08 AM

Every week, 40 Canadians die in MVAs. Why do we become so fascinated with cases like this? It is because they were hockey players, that 14 died, or something else?

 

If anything the question should be reversed: why aren't we talking about all of the other MVA deaths in Canada? We're numb to those 40 weekly deaths, because it's an accepted, regular part of western society. For the reasons VHF listed, this incident is not part of our "normal."


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#56 jonny

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Posted 09 April 2018 - 10:19 AM

Every week, 40 Canadians die in MVAs. Why do we become so fascinated with cases like this? It is because they were hockey players, that 14 died, or something else?

 

The answer is fairly self-evident. Because the deaths are randomly dispersed across a large and vast country, and not one major event that wiped out nearly an entire hockey team.

 

I bet this ranks as one of the worst single-event loss of lives in modern Canadian history.



#57 VicHockeyFan

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Posted 09 April 2018 - 10:53 AM

5.  the percentage killed is very high for a non-fire, non-roll-over-a-cliff type of crash

 

 

 

27 children die in India when school bus plunges into gorge
'I am deeply anguished by the loss of lives,' Prime Minister Narendra Modi said in a tweet. 'My prayers and solidarity with those who lost their near and dear ones'

 

 

http://nationalpost....nges-into-gorge


Edited by VicHockeyFan, 09 April 2018 - 10:53 AM.

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#58 Jackerbie

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Posted 09 April 2018 - 11:02 AM

The answer is fairly self-evident. Because the deaths are randomly dispersed across a large and vast country, and not one major event that wiped out nearly an entire hockey team.

 

I bet this ranks as one of the worst single-event loss of lives in modern Canadian history.

 

Someone has already added it to the list on Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia...a_by_death_toll


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#59 VicHockeyFan

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Posted 09 April 2018 - 11:06 AM

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#60 jonny

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Posted 09 April 2018 - 11:07 AM

Someone has already added it to the list on Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia...a_by_death_toll

 

I read somewhere that this is the worst accident involving a sports team in Canada. 



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