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1010 Fort Street
Uses: rental, commercial
Address: 1010 Fort Street
Municipality: Victoria
Region: Downtown Victoria
Storeys: 12
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#141 Kapten Kapsell

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Posted 04 April 2020 - 03:30 PM

This  project was revised again  on March 23. Applicant's  letter  to Council:  https://tender.victo...410145311036954

 

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#142 Mixed365

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Posted 04 April 2020 - 07:24 PM

Thanks Kapten!

If you look at Stuart Howard Architect's website, it looks like it's going to be CLT! That's exciting. 

http://stuarthoward....treet-clt-tower


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#143 Mike K.

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Posted 04 April 2020 - 07:26 PM

Oh, what’s CLT?

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#144 Rob Randall

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Posted 04 April 2020 - 08:08 PM

I'd tell you but I don't want to rub you the wrong way.


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#145 Rob Randall

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Posted 04 April 2020 - 08:09 PM

But if you guessed laminated beams you're right on the button.


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#146 Mixed365

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Posted 04 April 2020 - 08:18 PM

Oh, what’s CLT?

 

Cross Laminated Timber!

This Aryze/Geric's project in Vic.

More so though, this Brock Commons at UBC  :)


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#147 Mike K.

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Posted 05 April 2020 - 08:51 AM

Ah, very good.


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#148 Kapten Kapsell

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Posted 19 June 2020 - 02:27 PM

This goes to CotW on Thursday June 25.  Staff are recommending that the city decline this development and are advising that the develop should do a land assembly:  https://pub-victoria...ocumentId=54575



#149 Nparker

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Posted 19 June 2020 - 02:32 PM

Staff are wrong.


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#150 Rob Randall

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Posted 19 June 2020 - 02:34 PM

So the City says it's too narrow, you need to buy the building next door, knock that down and make it wider.

 

So they willl do that and it goes to Design Panel and they will say, it's too monolithic, you need to design it to make it look like two separate builidngs.


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#151 Kapten Kapsell

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Posted 19 June 2020 - 02:36 PM

But isn't this site full of fatscraper fans ...? 



#152 Nparker

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Posted 19 June 2020 - 02:41 PM

Why does it not surprise me that the "brain trusts" in the CoV want to kill this joyful, little mini highrise?



#153 GetLisaSomeHelps

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Posted 19 June 2020 - 02:46 PM

Why does it not surprise me that the "brain trusts" in the CoV want to kill this joyful, little mini highrise?

 

Because there's not enough grey cladding.



#154 aastra

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Posted 19 June 2020 - 03:26 PM

Sigh. Lot consolidation would be exactly what you don't want to happen along Fort Street. It would be a granularity killer. Do too much consolidation and Fort Street would forever lose its unique feel as a downtown neighbourhood street (along with that small bit of Blanshard where they intersect).

 

So, of course, the city is calling for lot consolidation. It's absolutely bananas. I have to ask, do the people calling for this stuff have any familiarity with Victoria? It seems like such generic advice, irrelevant to the context.


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#155 Kapten Kapsell

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Posted 22 June 2020 - 12:05 PM

CHEK news is reporting on the fact that this development might be rejected: https://www.cheknews...-street-677573/



#156 Brantastic

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Posted 22 June 2020 - 12:11 PM

Why does the article keep referring to it as Front Street?


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#157 Casual Kev

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Posted 22 June 2020 - 12:15 PM

Copy and paste the following paragraphs, and you can apply them to most development proposals no matter what they actually are :lol:

 

However, city staff are recommending council reject the application, citing concerns around building height, design and overall fit with the neighbourhood.

 

“Staff have concerns that the tower would have impacts on shading and privacy, that the street wall would not relate well to the public street and sidewalk, and the building lacks cohesion,” the report said.

 

When it came to the building’s design, staff said NVision Properties’ proposal does not “achieve a cohesive design or enhance” the appearance along Front Street through “high-quality architecture, landscape and urban design responsive to its historic context through sensitive and innovative interventions.”


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#158 Nparker

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Posted 22 June 2020 - 12:25 PM

Where is Front Street? If the CoV can't even identify its road network properly how can their opinions re design, massing etc. possibly be taken seriously?



#159 Mike K.

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Posted 22 June 2020 - 12:34 PM

Front Street is in Vic West.
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#160 Jackerbie

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Posted 22 June 2020 - 01:07 PM

Staff are wrong.


Staff are making an assessment based on policies adopted by Council contained in the OCP and DCAP. Staff have very little discretion, aside from interpretation of policies and bylaws.

I agree that there should be a fine grain on Fort, with infill encouraged. Unfortunately that's not what the DCAP says.

I agree that the tower form appears well designed and liveable. Unfortunately the tower separation requirements complicate things when future development is considered.

I will say I very much agree with staff that the street wall and street presence is bad. The frontage is dominated by a parade entrance and BC Hydro kiosk. Not exactly the pedestrian oriented design that should be expected on Fort.

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