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#1 Citified.ca

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Posted 25 July 2018 - 05:16 PM

Thank you Praisekek and Kapten Kap for the heads-up!

 

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The Downtown Victoria Y, visible in the centre of this aerial photograph and kitty-corner from the Christ Church Cathedral along Quadra Street, has been acquired by Vancouver-based Concert Properties. The fitness centre has up to seven years to pursue plans for an alternate location.

 

Concert Properties acquires downtown Victoria YMCA lands

https://victoria.cit...ria-ymca-lands/


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#2 Kapten Kapsell

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Posted 25 July 2018 - 08:05 PM

I suppose that Concert could feasibly construct 2-3 towers on this newly-acquired site.

It will be interesting to see where the YMCA winds up if they don’t go to the crystal pool...

#3 tjv

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Posted 25 July 2018 - 08:17 PM

well 7 years is a long ways away



#4 baconnbits

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Posted 25 July 2018 - 08:51 PM

City needs two rec centres. Crystal should be seperate.
Y couls go to cap six or mazda site or remain as part of new build. Concert did y in van and are doing one in calgary I bekieve as well

#5 rambaldi

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Posted 25 July 2018 - 09:31 PM

Will be interesting to see if the new YM-YWCA enters into some sort of city & developer partnership like the Westhills YM-YWCA where:

"The deal calls for Westhills — which is developing a new community on 209 hectares in Langford — to build the pool facility, which the YM-YWCA will lease for 25 years. The city has guaranteed to buy services from the YM-YWCA for 25 years at a minimum of $750,000 a year, with the amount linked to population increases. The city also agreed to assume the lease if the YM-YWCA ceases to operate the centre."

 

Perhaps part of a future Rock Bay development....



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Posted 25 July 2018 - 09:33 PM

Some stellar coverage in our local rag:

“That building opened after two separate Y organizations in the city were consolidated. The YMCA, serving males, had its building on the corner of Broughton and View streets, and the YWCA, for women, was at Broughton and Courtney streets.”

Who can tell me what’s wrong with this statement? That’s some crack reporting from the TC.

#7 gstc84

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Posted 25 July 2018 - 09:46 PM

That’s a lot of parallel streets intersecting. Wow.

#8 Mike K.

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Posted 26 July 2018 - 05:00 AM

I suppose that Concert could feasibly construct 2-3 towers on this newly-acquired site.

It will be interesting to see where the YMCA winds up if they don’t go to the crystal pool...


They’ll be bound by the Cathedral District limits so height likely won’t be one of the features of the buildings.

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#9 Torrontes

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Posted 26 July 2018 - 05:52 AM

Is that currently eight stories for the Y site?

 

Presumably Concert could try to vary the height restriction based, in part, on community benefits, which might extend to developing a new Y on another site downtown, and incorporating some green space into the existing site along Quadra.



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Posted 26 July 2018 - 05:56 AM

They’ll be bound by the Cathedral District limits so height likely won’t be one of the features of the buildings.

Which is rather laughable since the existing 2 storey buildings in the 800 block of Fort Street already obscure the view of the cathedral.



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Posted 26 July 2018 - 07:27 AM

Is that currently eight stories for the Y site?

 

Presumably Concert could try to vary the height restriction based, in part, on community benefits, which might extend to developing a new Y on another site downtown, and incorporating some green space into the existing site along Quadra.

 

Downtown Victoria LAP allows up to 30 m, Cathedral District plan allows up to 8 storeys at a maximum 2:1 FSR.



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Posted 26 July 2018 - 07:32 AM

Will be interesting to see if the new YM-YWCA enters into some sort of city & developer partnership like the Westhills YM-YWCA where:

"The deal calls for Westhills — which is developing a new community on 209 hectares in Langford — to build the pool facility, which the YM-YWCA will lease for 25 years. The city has guaranteed to buy services from the YM-YWCA for 25 years at a minimum of $750,000 a year, with the amount linked to population increases. The city also agreed to assume the lease if the YM-YWCA ceases to operate the centre."

 

Perhaps part of a future Rock Bay development....

 

YMCA wants to be downtown. Rock bay is too far out.



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Posted 26 July 2018 - 07:35 AM

Downtown Victoria LAP allows up to 30 m, Cathedral District plan allows up to 8 storeys at a maximum 2:1 FSR.

In light of that information, $22m seems like a lot



#14 Mike K.

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Posted 26 July 2018 - 07:41 AM

That being said the property is one of the largest land acquisitions in downtown Victoria in recent years, second only to the acquisition of the Harris Green Village property.


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#15 Kapten Kapsell

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Posted 26 July 2018 - 08:11 AM

T-C article: http://www.timescolo...-22m-1.23380388

#16 Kapten Kapsell

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Posted 26 July 2018 - 08:14 AM

They’ll be bound by the Cathedral District limits so height likely won’t be one of the features of the buildings.


Thanks Mike; will they be able to build to the height of the Escher across the street ?

#17 Mike K.

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Posted 26 July 2018 - 08:28 AM

As per Jackerbie's post, the heights are limited to eight-storeys. I doubt they'll have the ability to push them beyond that, but then we're also looking at a future development that is unlikely to proceed for nearly a decade.


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Posted 26 July 2018 - 08:44 AM

 

...$22m seems like a lot

 

I'm more confused than ever about Victoria's development scene. If an occupied site with seemingly limited redevelopment potential is worth $22 million then what about all of the crapshacks and empty lots?



#19 aastra

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Posted 26 July 2018 - 08:46 AM

We can assume another project for seniors would get some leeway (because Victoria), but surely not too too much leeway, you think?



#20 Mike K.

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Posted 26 July 2018 - 08:47 AM

I'm more confused than ever about Victoria's development scene. If an occupied site with seemingly limited redevelopment potential is worth $22 million then what about all of the crapshacks and empty lots?

 

What about them?


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