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#161 Mike K.

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Posted 29 November 2018 - 11:10 AM

It’s the ghost of Paul Seal’s past

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A multi-dimension man, for sure, but dark-skinned with a beard? That's someone else's ghost.


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#162 Matt R.

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Posted 29 November 2018 - 11:17 AM

Last I saw him he had a beard, so halfway there.

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#163 Rob Randall

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Posted 30 November 2018 - 09:11 AM

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Gotta love this picture of MBS and Putin this morning at the G20.

 

Remember the good old days when the US stood up to thugs?


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#164 Mike K.

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Posted 30 November 2018 - 10:34 AM

Mystic, knock that out.

 

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#165 Rob Randall

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Posted 30 November 2018 - 10:47 AM

Macon's just as bad. They all seem to be falling over themselves vying to see who can be MbS's chief fartcatcher.

 

In audio of the conversation, which covered the murder of the journalist Jamal Khashoggi and the ongoing Yemen war, it is possible to make out Saudi Arabia‘s de-facto leader saying “Don’t worry,” to which the French president responds: “I am worried”

 

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#166 Mike K.

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Posted 30 November 2018 - 10:49 AM

 

Gotta love this picture of MBS and Putin this morning at the G20.

 

Remember the good old days when the US stood up to thugs?

 

Oh yeah, they handled Stalin real well. Clinton/Bush/Obama had a stranglehold on China, too, sending them waves of production to keep them too busy to engage in human rights violations. Rwanda? What's that? Pol Pot almost got a talking to. 

 

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#167 Rob Randall

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Posted 30 November 2018 - 10:58 AM

Back then America might have rolled over in private but at least their public posturing was tough. Trump's schoolgirl infatuation with Putin and MbS is embarrassing and unprecedented. A lot worse than Rumsfeld shaking Saddam's hand in the '80s.


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#168 Mike K.

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Posted 30 November 2018 - 01:25 PM

Back then America might have rolled over in private but at least their public posturing was tough. Trump's schoolgirl infatuation with Putin and MbS is embarrassing and unprecedented. A lot worse than Rumsfeld shaking Saddam's hand in the '80s.

I don't know what Rumsfeld has to do with anything since both the US and the Saudi's were backing Saddam's war with Iran in the 80's and the US green-lighted his invasion of Kuwait. A handshake or two were in order, but the 80’s rabbit hole goes deep.

I don't mean to be a jerk, but this 'schoolgirl' that or 'unprecedented' this kind of talk has worn thin. What's a statement like that even supposed to mean? In the context of geopolitical aggression or lack thereof over generations and, as you say, a public showing being all about optics and a means of humouring the masses rather than anything tangible or ultimately worthwhile, what Trump says or does before the cameras is irrelevant, is it not? All presidents act like schoolgirls and all are guilty of unprecedented decisions or actions/inactions if history has taught us anything and we acknowledge their actions are mere showmanship.

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Posted 06 December 2018 - 10:35 AM

while everyone has been covering bush
 

A friend of Jamal Khashoggi is suing an Israeli company for allegedly providing software used to hack into his phone.

Montreal-based dissident Omar Abdulaziz was targeted by Israeli cyber intelligence firm NSO Group's Pegasus spyware software, which enables hackers to access messages, photos, microphone, and camera, researchers at Toronto's Citizen Lab found in October.

The 27-year-old previously told Business Insider he did not suspect his phone was being monitored until Citizen Lab reached out to corroborate its hypothesis.

"When they [Citizen Lab] reached out I figured that someone must have been listening to me and reading the conversations between me and my friends and my brothers," he told Business Insider. "Some of them were arrested, and I'm sure hackers had access to everything on my phone."

Abdulaziz and Khashoggi were in communication during the period of time that his phone was allegedly hacked, and he told CNN that the breach may have provided Saudi agents with sensitive information that contributed to Khashoggi's murder.

"The hacking of my phone played a major role in what happened to Jamal, I am really sorry to say," Abdulaziz told CNN. "The guilt is killing me."

On Sunday, Abdulaziz filed a lawsuit in Tel Aviv against the Israeli company, alleging that it broke international law by selling software to the Saudi government used to spy on his conversations with Khashoggi.

"NSO should be held accountable in order to protect the lives of political dissidents, journalists and human rights activists," Abdulaziz's lawyer Alaa Mahajna told CNN.

Two other lawsuits, filed in Israel and Cyprus by citizens of Mexico and Qatar, accuse NSO Group of actively participating in illegal spying.

NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden also spoke firmly against the NSO Group, calling it "the worst of the worst," a seller of tools "being actively used to violate the human rights of dissidents, opposition figures, activists, to some pretty bad players." He also alleged that the group's technology was used to help track and eventually kill Khashoggi.

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