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[Victoria Watcher]

seattle wants to put their ahl team in palm springs

[SimonH]

seattle wants to put their ahl team in palm springs

Bizarre.

[AllseeingEye]

SoCal has a long history of minor-pro hockey (Bakersfield and especially San Diego) and P-S will have a 10,000-seat arena, not to mention its in the same TZ so getting players to the big club in a hurry won't present a problem. It makes at least as much sense as the Canuck's having Utica NY, clear across the continent, as their affiliate.

Edited by AllseeingEye, 04 July 2019 - 04:49 PM.

[SimonH]

SoCal has a long history of minor-pro hockey (Bakersfield and especially San Diego) and P-S will have a 10,000-seat arena, not to mention its in the same TZ so getting players to the big club in a hurry won't present a problem. It makes at least as much sense as the Canuck's having Utica NY, clear across the continent, as their affiliate.

Thanks for that, very interesting. Will forecasted /future/ attendances have had any bearing on the location and when you say Palm Springs do you mean Palm Springs or somewhere in the valley ??

[AllseeingEye]

Thanks for that, very interesting. Will forecasted /future/ attendances have had any bearing on the location and when you say Palm Springs do you mean Palm Springs or somewhere in the valley ??

No it'll be in downtown Palm Springs.

 

That said at the same time last year there was an announcement for a 12,000 seat venue in Palm Desert. It appears both will proceed as planned. The downtown AHL/"hockey" facility is a joint proposal by the Oak View Group and the Agua Caliente band/Cahuilla Indians.

 

The larger facility was actually announced over a year ago, and includes the arena, a resort hotel, and a senior living center with medical facilities on 125 acres in Palm Desert.

[Jackerbie]

Internet rumbling suggest that the owners have decided on Seattle Kraken as the franchise name. Cue exclamations of "Let's get Kraken!" across social media.

[RFS]

No it'll be in downtown Palm Springs.

 

That said at the same time last year there was an announcement for a 12,000 seat venue in Palm Desert. It appears both will proceed as planned. The downtown AHL/"hockey" facility is a joint proposal by the Oak View Group and the Agua Caliente band/Cahuilla Indians.

 

The larger facility was actually announced over a year ago, and includes the arena, a resort hotel, and a senior living center with medical facilities on 125 acres in Palm Desert.

 

Canadians love Palm Springs so that will help attendance 

[RFS]

Internet rumbling suggest that the owners have decided on Seattle Kraken as the franchise name. Cue exclamations of "Let's get Kraken!" across social media.

 

Dumb name, I hate them already.  Let the rivalry begin

[AllseeingEye]

I believe someone or some corporate entity owns the rights but "somehow" IMO the Seattle group should've tried to obtain and resurrect (one of) the old Seattle Metropolitans or even the Totems names. The 'Kraken' sucks....

[Bernard]

I kinda like The Kraken - the old names are meh at best.   

[gstc84]

Yeah, I honestly think it's one of the best names in the league if that is what they go with. And the logo could be pretty badass.

[Langford Rat]

It's not a bad name...if your a Nordic hockey team. What does the kracken have to do with Seattle? Everyone knows there are no krackens in the Pacific...

[Victoria Watcher]

i'm coming around to it.

[AllseeingEye]

It's not a bad name...if your a Nordic hockey team. What does the kracken have to do with Seattle? Everyone knows there are no krackens in the Pacific...

 

Perhaps they're pandering to Pirates of the Caribbean fans.....

[RFS]

It’s trying way too hard

[aastra]

Too many "K" sounds in there. One "K" works (Sharks, Ducks, 'Nucks, Hawks, etc.), but having two can be awkward. (I suppose we should be relieved that they didn't go with "Killer Kraken".)

 

It also doesn't seem to lend itself to informal abbreviations/alternative nicknames. The Krak? The Krak House? I'm thinking people would end up calling them the Squid. Habs versus Squid. The Squid are on a roll, they've won five in a row, etc.

 

And then there's that whole angle re: the Kraken suck. No, they really do suck. I'm not averse to a play on words now and then, but that one is dead on arrival. Just imagine watching a game with Mike K. and how many times you'd have to suffer through that.

[aastra]

It's not a bad name...if your a Nordic hockey team. What does the kracken have to do with Seattle?

 

Methinks it's an odd combination of a familiar thing (Octopus) that could resonate equally well in many different places (similar to Sharks, Bears, Tigers, Lions, Jets, etc.) being referred to by a term that carries a much more specific connotation for most people, which thus displaces the thing from the Seattle context. Seattle + Octopus works, but Seattle + Kraken seems like a misdirection.

 

San Jose Sharks San Jose White Pointers

 

Chicago Bears Chicago Polar Bears

 

Detroit Tigers Detroit Siberian Tigers

 

Detroit Lions Detroit Lords of the Serengeti

 

Winnipeg Jets Winnipeg F-14 Tomcats

 

(Then again, the Cincinnati Bengals would seem to be proof that this sort of thing can nevertheless work. Any others like that? Obviously many team names don't fit their current locales because the franchises were relocated at one point or another, but how many teams have names that were a bit off right from the start?)

[Langford Rat]

I never really understood names like The Golden Seals, Ducks, Penguins for hockey teams. As team names they seemed to miss the mark. Not that ducks can't be a little scrappy, (never met a penguin), and seals can get pretty damned troublesome, but seriously, how can they compete against hawks, and panthers, and bears and sharks and other predators?

[Victoria Watcher]

(Then again, the Cincinnati Bengals would seem to be proof that this sort of thing can nevertheless work. Any others like that? Obviously many team names don't fit their current locales because the franchises were relocated at one point or another, but how many teams have names that were a bit off right from the start?)

 

 the new orleans pelicans.  that play in the smoothie king centre.  

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 31 January 2020 - 07:34 AM.

[aastra]

Jacksonville Jaguars. But I can hear jaguars everywhere asking why Lions and Tigers should get a pass if Jaguars don't. I guess we've been using Lions and Tigers as nicknames for so long we don't even think about their relevance to place. They transcend any particular relevance to the place or the sport.

 

Seattle Desert Sidewinders

Vancouver Kiwi Birds

Portland Koalas