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975-983 Pandora Avenue
Uses: rental, commercial
Address: 979-983 Pandora Avenue
Municipality: Victoria
Region: Downtown Victoria
Storeys: 15
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#141 Promontory Kingpin

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Posted 11 August 2020 - 12:49 PM

They would still be able to excavate the site for the underground parkade while awaiting the development permit right?


Yes, that’s correct
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#142 Biro

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Posted 23 August 2020 - 08:37 AM

Most of the wood and debris has been cleared off site. Looks like they are moving to the existing foundation. Hopefully this building along with the Wedge will refresh the area nicely.

Nice and flat now (Captured August 22) :

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#143 Nparker

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Posted 23 August 2020 - 08:58 AM

Quick! The city needs to buy this piece of land and turn it into some much needed green space that is lacking in the area.



#144 Kapten Kapsell

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Posted 21 October 2020 - 07:17 AM

This project has been revised again.  A new letter from Townline (to the city) is up on Dev Tracker:  https://tender.victo...218132006022879

 

New rendering:

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#145 Mike K.

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Posted 21 October 2020 - 07:20 AM

Much better!
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#146 Nparker

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Posted 21 October 2020 - 07:24 AM

The step back on the top 2 floors works really well now.



#147 Jackerbie

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Posted 21 October 2020 - 07:34 AM

The massing on this one is better, but I prefer the bold colour scheme of the previous iteration. This is looking dangerously close to the Yates on Yates, and we all know how that one is turning out



#148 Brantastic

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Posted 21 October 2020 - 08:26 AM

It looks a bit less cluttered, which is good, but I'm bummed about the color change. I really liked the dark brick that was proposed in the last rendering.



#149 Nparker

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Posted 21 October 2020 - 08:29 AM

... I really liked the dark brick that was proposed in the last rendering.

Don't put too much faith in the colour/pattern of renderings of brick. We've been fooled a lot recently.


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#150 Jackerbie

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Posted 13 January 2021 - 05:30 PM

This one went to ADP in November and seems to have been very well received. The biggest concerns seem to be the lack-luster colour and material palette, fenestration on the south side, and an opening for the music room onto the breezeway.

 

Minutes here: https://www.victoria...er 25, 2020.pdf

 

Report and drawings here: https://www.victoria...attachments.pdf


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#151 Rob Randall

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Posted 14 January 2021 - 07:41 AM

Sounds like the designer that chose the colour scheme should be defenestrated.


“I mean I just don’t understand the big Texas part, like maybe he’s from Texas? I want to know the back story.”


#152 Jackerbie

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Posted 24 March 2021 - 04:14 PM

New drawings! 

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And as has been said on many a project in Victoria, why on earth is BC Hydro not undergrounding the overhead lines??? We do it for pretty much every project in Richmond, a floodplain, so why not Victoria?


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#153 qv

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Posted 24 March 2021 - 09:33 PM

Look, it's housing, that's good. But the design is boring. This feels very corporate.

#154 qv

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Posted 24 March 2021 - 09:34 PM

Look, it's housing, that's good. But the design is boring. This feels very corporate.


Seeing these designs is a good reminder that we're lucky in Victoria to have a good number of interesting designs. For a small city we have some nice architecture.

#155 Kapten Kapsell

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Posted 30 April 2021 - 11:04 AM

Council will consider this proposal at the May 13 Committee of the Whole meeting.



#156 TallGuy

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Posted 30 April 2021 - 12:08 PM

New drawings! 

 

And as has been said on many a project in Victoria, why on earth is BC Hydro not undergrounding the overhead lines??? We do it for pretty much every project in Richmond, a floodplain, so why not Victoria?

$$$$$ and more $$$$$.

 

Undergrounding the hydro would be the largest portion of the off-site improvement costs. If housing affordability is a priority then undergrounding hydro isn't a reasonable ask at this point.



#157 Mike K.

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Posted 30 April 2021 - 01:25 PM

Tallguy, what are we talking on a per foot or per meter basis? Or is every site unique and dependant on ultra local site conditions?

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#158 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 16 May 2021 - 09:58 AM

i do not want to throw too much shade on this thing.  because it's good to let developers try whatever they want.  but a lot of this is strange.

 

 

 

 

The co-living model already exists in places such as New York and Los Angeles, but it would be new to Victoria, Karen Hoese, the city’s director of sustainable planning and community development told council.

 

“I think we’re all going to be learning from this and it is a very unique situation at this point, but we’d like to see what type of benefits this provides, in terms of affordability and also meeting a variety of different needs, you know, whether it’s young folks, seniors, any mix of people who might be interested in using this type of housing,” Hoese said.

 

Mayor Lisa Helps said the co-living model may be desirable for people who want to live together and “create small pockets of community within the building.”

 

Chris Colbeck, senior vice-president of development, sales and marketing for Townline Homes, said he’s excited to see the project move forward to a public hearing.

 

Colbeck said the co-living units satisfy a gap in the housing market and are geared towards people looking for an affordable rental and ways to combat “urban loneliness.”

 

The building is designed with amenities that promote socializing, like a foosball table in the laundry room and an outdoor firepit area, and it would have a social curator who plans regular events, such as wine tasting or movie nights.

 

The cost of those events would be included in the rent for co-living units, Colbeck said. Tenants in other rental units could also opt in to events at a cost, he said.

 

While on a tour of a co-living building in New York, Colbeck said he noticed residents knew their social curator by name and stopped to chat with each other.

 

“There was an element of community. So you know, we are really trying to foster community,” Colbeck said.

 

The pods would be fully furnished, including kitchenware and toiletries.

 

“Basically you’re moving in with your laptop from an Uber,” Colbeck said.

 

Townline is also in the process of trying to develop a rental building that includes co-living units in Los Angeles.

 

 

https://www.timescol...room-1.24319635

 

 

 

if all you own is a laptop, what kid of weirdo are you?  somehow i do not think you are "social" if that's the case.

 

now it's a bit interesting to model this after new york and los angeles, the #1 and #2 largest cities (CMA) in north america.  we are #161.


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#159 Nparker

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Posted 16 May 2021 - 10:05 AM

Do many people over the age of 30 really want to live in a glorified dorm?


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#160 spanky123

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Posted 16 May 2021 - 10:39 AM

Do many people over the age of 30 really want to live in a glorified dorm?

 

The trend over the past decade has been for people to want to live by themselves and not have roommates. That is one major reason why we have a housing shortage.

 

Having said that, where these models work really well is in short term rentals. Get a few people travelling together and these are great options. The onsite "social curator" also acts as the onsite building manager.


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