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#681 sebberry

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Posted 16 May 2022 - 11:56 AM

More or less, mostly the status quo.


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#682 Mike K.

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Posted 16 May 2022 - 11:57 AM

Nothing about reducing taxes and reining in the scope of council’s purview?
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Posted 16 May 2022 - 12:32 PM

More or less, mostly the status quo.

 

You have to understand however that supporting amalgamation means having Victoria council run everything but having the entire CRD to pay for it!

 

You have to understand that all that happens is that TV and other special interest groups are running polls to get public opinion on various topics. Whatever direction the prevailing wind points they support. When they are elected is when you find out what you really get for your money.


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Posted 16 May 2022 - 01:10 PM

Krista Loughton was interviewed by Joe Perkins on the MicChek podcast. Joe didn't get a lot of straight answers out of her citing the need to do her research, 'it depends', etc. However, she thinks more shelters would take burden off police, likely would vote to reopen Arbutus Way, wants to leave Clover Point as is, thinks the Crystal Pool could be rebuilt on the corner of Royal Athletic Park, supports the Missing Middle Housing, and supports Amalgamation. 

 

  • If shelters were run properly and not a free for all, then perhaps.  Otherwise they make the issue worse by magnifying issues and suffering.  How can someone get clean when drugs are everywhere?  How can someone feel safe and get mental health support in a setting of chaos?
  • Reopen Arbutus Way - OK
  • Leave Clover Point "as is".  Ah....no.  Tone deaf
  • Crystal Pool on the corner of RAP?  Is this in the parking lot?  I thought the site plan was too big for the RAP lot? 
  • Missing Middle - whatever
  • Amalgamation - of course.  We have so many great ideas, why wouldn't everyone jump on-board?

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Posted 16 May 2022 - 01:37 PM

Krista Loughton...supports Amalgamation. 

Does she promise to give up her council seat in an amalgamated region?



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Posted 17 May 2022 - 03:17 AM

Long-time Victoria city councillor Marianne Alto is expected to announce today that she will throw her hat in the ring to be the city’s next mayor.

Alto, first elected in 2010, said she has been considering the prospect for months after being approached by several groups.

“It’s really quite an honour that someone would suggest that you could do that job,” said Alto ahead of her planned announcement. “I know that job, having observed it now through two mayors, two very different mayors, and it’s a big job with huge responsibilities and a lot of duty.”



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Posted 17 May 2022 - 05:14 AM

^ Funny.

 

Has there been a single, major issue over the past 8 years that Alto has not supported Helps on? 


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Posted 17 May 2022 - 05:46 AM

The announcement is at Fort Common. Does that mean the development community is behind Marianne Alto?

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Posted 17 May 2022 - 06:00 AM

Fort Properties (owner of Fort Common) has a joint proposal that still needs City approval.

 

https://victoria.cit...-condo-complex/

 

That seems pretty comfy.


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Posted 17 May 2022 - 08:18 AM

Even though the position of Mayor has a lot of street cred associated with it, the reality of most (if not all) Local Governments is that the Mayors authority is barely (if at all) more than any of the Councilors sitting at the same table.

 

Strategically, running for Mayor carries with it that much higher risk, with no fallback in terms of counting votes to see who stays, and who goes.

Wanna be the new Mayor? ... you're either a winner, or a loser.

 

Although Alto has aligned herself somewhat (but not entirely) with Helps over the years, she would bring to the Office a level of rationale and careful consideration that's been missing in recent times.

Alto most definitely isn't prone to knee jerk responses, and IMO represents a strong candidate for the office of Mayor ... albeit definitely not the right of centre, business-focused candidate I'd really like to see in the Mayors Office.


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Posted 17 May 2022 - 08:22 AM

The announcement is at Fort Common. Does that mean the development community is behind Marianne Alto?


Alto will announce a number of supporters today across the development and business community.

Helps has shown many what is cost to be on the wrong side so people are making sure they don’t make the same mistake again.

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Posted 17 May 2022 - 08:23 AM

Even though the position of Mayor has a lot of street cred associated with it, the reality of most (if not all) Local Governments is that the Mayors authority is barely (if at all) more than any of the Councilors sitting at the same table.

Strategically, running for Mayor carries with it that much higher risk, with no fallback in terms of counting votes to see who stays, and who goes.
Wanna be the new Mayor? ... you're either a winner, or a loser.

Although Alto has aligned herself somewhat (but not entirely) with Helps over the years, she would bring to the Office a level of rationale and careful consideration that's been missing in recent times.
Alto most definitely isn't prone to knee jerk responses, and IMO represents a strong candidate for the office of Mayor ... albeit definitely not the right of centre, business-focused candidate I'd really like to see in the Mayors Office.

The biggest stick the Mayor has is to set the agenda for council meetings. If he/she doesn’t support an issue they can delay or prevent it from advancing. Similarly they can resubmit agenda items that were voted down to try and force them through a second or third time.

I don’t think Alto has been too level headed when it came to the JAM statue as an example. She is a ‘family’ member is she not?

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#693 Spy Black

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Posted 17 May 2022 - 08:55 AM

Roberts Rules of Order cut both ways ... if a Councilor understands how to manipulate the proceedings to further their own agenda, anything is possible.

 

You're absolutely right though, in that the Mayors display of authority manifests itself most obviously at Council meetings, at least in terms of process ... if perhaps not always in a final outcome.



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Posted 17 May 2022 - 09:01 AM

.... if a Councilor understands how to manipulate the proceedings to further their own agenda, anything is possible...

We've certainly seen plenty of that with at least one member of the current council.


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Posted 17 May 2022 - 11:31 AM

Alto's statement:

 

For some time now, a broad range of Victorians have asked me to consider running for Mayor. I have been listening carefully, reflecting on their advice and concerns while concentrating on the demands of the day doing my job as a councillor. Now, it's time to commit to those residents and announce today that I am going to take their advice and run for Mayor in the upcoming municipal election.

Victoria has passed the threshold of a ‘big town’ and is evolving into a thriving city with complex, urban challenges. Meeting those challenges requires balance, leadership, experience, and the courage to make tough decisions.  I make sure I am well-informed and well-prepared, as only then is it possible to listen actively with objectivity and bring opposing interests together to find solutions.

My approach won’t change as Mayor. I will continue to identify a reasoned path forward that reflects the interests of the community today, with a responsible eye on the future.

In the days and months ahead, I look forward to talking about these ideas, and others, in more detail with people on their doorsteps and in neighbourhoods throughout the city. I welcome the opportunity to listen and speak to residents one by one, and to explore together how we will continue to build a city for everyone.


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Posted 17 May 2022 - 12:04 PM

Alto's statement:

 

My approach won’t change as Mayor. 

 

So, more of the same then.  


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#697 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 17 May 2022 - 12:08 PM

With Alto in, this is as good a time as ever for Isitt to give it a go.

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Posted 17 May 2022 - 12:39 PM

In 2018 Alto got about 10,000 votes. Where about 28,000 voters turned up.

In 2020:

Andrew won 6,937 votes. Stephanie Hardman came second with 3,783 votes. Roshan Vickery was third with 603 votes.

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#699 Mike K.

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Posted 17 May 2022 - 12:53 PM

Interesting.

 

~30% compared to ~60%.


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Posted 17 May 2022 - 12:55 PM

So, more of the same then.  

Victoria doesn't need "Helps Lite".


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