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#1141 dasmo

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Posted 28 July 2022 - 11:51 AM

Useful idiot: "One who is seen to unwittingly support a malignant cause through their 'naive' attempts to be a force for good." 


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Posted 28 July 2022 - 12:53 PM

Amazing that it's all presented in a grass roots fashion... Here is Arlington doing exactly the same thing as everywhere else right now. 

 

"The study recommended the Board approve a countywide change from single to multi-family zoning, allowing up to 8-plexes in all residential areas that do not already permit it. Currently in 79 percent of the County’s residential land area, only single detached housing is permitted." "Missing Middle Housing is defined as housing choices between single family housing and high rise apartments. The efforts to review missing middle housing and whether and how it might work for Arlington began with the announcement on December 18, 2019 of a three-phase study. The framework “will start from a blank slate with no proposed policy or zoning changes. A county led team will use inclusive public engagement process, a cross-disciplinary team of experts, extensive data collection and analysis and an iterative design process to create study recommendations for the Board to consider.”

 

Amazing they came to the same conclusion of every other place implementing this policy! 

 

http://www.connectio...enters-homestr/


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#1143 Nparker

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Posted 28 July 2022 - 02:06 PM

How have we allowed ourselves to be governed by UN decrees?
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#1144 JimV

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Posted 28 July 2022 - 04:01 PM

Quitzau’s resume reminds me of what Parisians say about the students of Ecole Polytechnique, one of Frances’s most prestigious universities:  “They know everything, but nothing else.”



#1145 dasmo

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Posted 28 July 2022 - 09:35 PM

How have we allowed ourselves to be governed by UN decrees?

“The goal is disengagement”
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#1146 Tom Braybrook

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Posted 28 July 2022 - 10:45 PM

Quitzau’s resume reminds me of what Parisians say about the students of Ecole Polytechnique, one of Frances’s most prestigious universities:  “They know everything, but nothing else.”

Bachelor's degree  -  limited knowledge about a wide range of subjects

 

Master's degree - a more focused study of  smaller range of subjects

 

Ph.D - an intense focus on a narrow range of subjects

 

demonstrating that the aim of higher education is to eventually know absolutely eveything about absolutely nothing



#1147 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 29 July 2022 - 06:17 AM

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#1148 Nparker

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Posted 29 July 2022 - 06:25 AM

Comrade Isitt: a legend in his own mind.
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#1149 dasmo

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Posted 29 July 2022 - 07:14 AM

Disengagement over the issues but not the drama.

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Posted 29 July 2022 - 07:17 AM

Is Adam talking about the UN, a globalist, unelected non-transparent NGO swinging all the western governments into blanket up-zoning their neighborhoods all around the same time without regard for the actual consequences? No….

#1151 dasmo

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Posted 29 July 2022 - 07:18 AM

Or that the council is going to ram it through like ALL the other councils are without regard for the actual public? That’s what matters right now. No Ben faking that his Twitter account was suspended.

#1152 Mike K.

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Posted 29 July 2022 - 07:22 AM

We’d all be better off if politicians stopped getting into Twitter arguments.

Social media has made it ok to be cruel towards others. Not just snippy, but cruel.

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#1153 dasmo

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Posted 29 July 2022 - 07:28 AM

They have learned from the master of WWE style politics it seems.

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Posted 29 July 2022 - 08:53 AM

We do have some early indications of how “the missing middle is working in the short term since some places have managed to ram this through faster. Let’s look at San Francisco.
“This increase in density is no longer a choice, it’s here,” said senior legislative planner Audrey Merlone, adding that Mandelman’s ordinances keep the “most beneficial aspects of SB 9 while still allowing the city to maintain control over the shaping of its urban form.”
The commissioners agreed, sending the legislation on to an uncertain future at the Board of Supervisors, but not before several hours of impassioned public comment that ran well into the night. Some critics of the legislation said it would make wealthy homeowners’ property more valuable without requiring affordability in the extra units they could add.”

How are they doing on the goal of disengagement? Pretty darn good! “ The vast majority of the 75 speakers supported the legislation
https://therealdeal....oning-advances/

This was last year. How is it going so far?

“ Is the housing market in the Bay Area cooling in 2022? No, most likely not. According to Zillow statistics, the average price of a single-family house in the city was $1.91 million in June, up 11.5% from $1.74 million in June 2021. And, while inventories may grow in the fall, anticipate plenty of competition from buyers. According to current trends, housing prices in the majority of Bay Area communities will continue to climb over the next twelve months.”

This despite the market downturn also happening everywhere.

“ The Bay Area housing market also continues to decelerate from the frenetic levels of the last two years, offering advantageous conditions for purchasers who lost bids or waited out the intensely competitive market. The huge decline in sales occurs as mortgage rates increase, discouraging purchasers. In June 2022, home sales in the Bay Area were 26.8 percent lower than last year and 4.4 lower than in May 2022.”
https://www.noradare...-estate-market/


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Posted 29 July 2022 - 09:00 AM

Ahh Frisco. The city that needed an app to warn of shite on the sidewalk.

Snapcrap…priceless.

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Posted 29 July 2022 - 09:26 AM

Its too soon to see any impact for SF. There is a lot more involved there than meets the eye, and it appears if you think red tape is bad here... its worse there. But perhaps it will get better as the state legislation SB9 bascially forced them to take action on upzoning there. SB9 technically came into effect in January and amended only very recently in SF by upzoning to get around the SB9 blanket approval for duplexes on SFH lots: https://www.planetiz...-family-zoning 

 

Anyways, I'd check back in 2-3 years before there is any impact, and likely longer. It still takes time to replace SFH with duplexes and fourplexes.



#1157 Mike K.

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Posted 29 July 2022 - 09:41 AM

In our case, we’ve been building duplexes (homes with legal suites, or illegal suites but professionally built and wired) for decades. It’s a huge part of our housing inventory.

Those suites are also cheaper than market rents for apartments, on average. Losing them to market rents is not going to improve affordability, and we also now know that it’s no longer a question of affordability in the CoV, but one of density.
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#1158 dasmo

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Posted 29 July 2022 - 09:42 AM

Its too soon to see any impact for SF. There is a lot more involved there than meets the eye, and it appears if you think red tape is bad here... its worse there. But perhaps it will get better as the state legislation SB9 bascially forced them to take action on upzoning there. SB9 technically came into effect in January and amended only very recently in SF by upzoning to get around the SB9 blanket approval for duplexes on SFH lots: https://www.planetiz...-family-zoning 

 

Anyways, I'd check back in 2-3 years before there is any impact, and likely longer. It still takes time to replace SFH with duplexes and fourplexes.

It takes time to build yes but the effect on affordability is instant. Land values skyrocket. We don't need to bother checking back there. There is no testing ground. It's already happening everywhere before we can do that. This is my point. Not that it is inherently wrong. I like this form of building. But the question remains, what is the impact of doing this to EXISTING communities You know, where real people live. These places aren't "human settlements"... 


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#1159 Barrrister

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Posted 29 July 2022 - 01:42 PM

More density and less doctors, what could go wrong.


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Posted 29 July 2022 - 01:47 PM

More density and less doctors, what could go wrong.

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