City of Victoria | 2018-2022 | Mayor and council general discussion
#3761
Posted 16 December 2019 - 02:00 AM
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#3762
Posted 18 December 2019 - 01:56 PM
The city needs to do something about the burgeoning number of RV's using the Dallas Road waterfront as an overnight camping facility. This problem is likely to exacerbate once the pump station is complete and both washrooms and a rinse station (a shower by any other name) become available at Clover Point.
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#3764
Posted 18 December 2019 - 03:29 PM
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#3765
Posted 18 December 2019 - 03:56 PM
In Vancouver people living in RVs and cars is a serious problem. As an example, on the edges of Strathcona and Chinatown there are a lot of them parked every night
#3766
Posted 18 December 2019 - 04:05 PM
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#3767
Posted 18 December 2019 - 04:06 PM
There’s also a growing trend for workers to live in RVs during the week and travel back home (to the Island, Whistler, Hope, etc) on the weekend. Bus drivers, longshoremen, etc. Vancouver is seeing more and more of this.
Would this be what that 'workforce housing' is designed for?
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#3768
Posted 18 December 2019 - 04:11 PM
These outflow workers from YVR to cheaper destinations can buy a home elsewhere but due to a variety of factors changing jobs makes no sense (like seniority-based wages, seniority itself, benefits).
Take a transit driver in Vancouver. He’s earning $35/hour and has good seniority after a decade plus of working. Switching to BC Transit in Victoria brings him down to the entry wage of $21 (or thereabouts?) and seniority goes to zero.
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#3769
Posted 18 December 2019 - 10:47 PM
The city needs to do something about the burgeoning number of RV's using the Dallas Road waterfront as an overnight camping facility.
Why?
If they're making a mess or littering or whatever then enforce those bylaws, but I can't see any reason why simply sleeping overnight in a vehicle should ever be a crime in any way.
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#3770
Posted 19 December 2019 - 12:15 AM
Why?
If they're making a mess or littering or whatever then enforce those bylaws, but I can't see any reason why simply sleeping overnight in a vehicle should ever be a crime in any way.
i think it can become a slippery slope... one night then they don't move on the next day turns into multiple nights rolls into the RV becoming a regular staple not moving for days or weeks...
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#3771
Posted 20 December 2019 - 12:08 AM
i think it can become a slippery slope... one night then they don't move on the next day turns into multiple nights rolls into the RV becoming a regular staple not moving for days or weeks...
Still don't see a problem provided there's no littering or other mess made, no other crimes committed, and the vehicle remains roadworthy such that it can move if it has to.
But, if it's that big a deal maybe put a 24-hour time limit on parking in the same place.
I see this not so much as an issue for permanent residents as for visitors who don't feel like paying inflated hotel costs or campground fees - says he, who has slept in his car in various cities over the years, for just this reason.
#3772
Posted 20 December 2019 - 10:44 AM
#3773
Posted 23 December 2019 - 08:09 AM
Still don't see a problem provided there's no littering or other mess made, no other crimes committed, and the vehicle remains roadworthy such that it can move if it has to.
But, if it's that big a deal maybe put a 24-hour time limit on parking in the same place.
I see this not so much as an issue for permanent residents as for visitors who don't feel like paying inflated hotel costs or campground fees - says he, who has slept in his car in various cities over the years, for just this reason.
What's the problem with a complete truancy from the responsibility of paying towards a city's tax base while using that city's resources? By getting around "inflated" hotel rates and camping fees, or even inflated rental options, a person effectively becomes a free rider. They demand to use the city's resources without contributing, and they take away from a feeling of security for local residents. What's the problem with denying other people access to that same public resource? What's the problem with feeling like your neighbours are there one moment and gone the next? The assumption that engaging in this behaviour is benign is part of the problem. and there are good reasons why most cities do not allow people to overnight in vehicles outside of RV parks (where you must register your vehicle).
I'll happily concede there's an underlying affordability problem in Victoria, but the solution is not to allow people to overnight in their vehicles. Workforce housing matters - and I would hope that facilities more similar to dorms could evolve to support that.
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#3774
Posted 23 December 2019 - 08:44 AM
^ I don't know of too many contractors working in Victoria for minimum wage. There is a difference between not being able to afford a place to live and wishing to save money and choosing not to find a place to live.
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#3775
Posted 23 December 2019 - 08:56 AM
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#3776
Posted 23 December 2019 - 09:09 AM
You’re quite likely to land $20/hour even for a labourer position
I know of folks with limited / no constructions skills being paid $25 an hour.
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#3777
Posted 25 December 2019 - 11:33 AM
Any recent numbers on bus pass distribution at city hall?
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#3778
Posted 03 January 2020 - 08:58 PM
Any recent numbers on bus pass distribution at city hall?
2164 according to TC by Dec 31st for January. 30% uptake - effectively the same as December. Success?
#3779
Posted 04 January 2020 - 02:02 PM
With about 5,000 to 6,000 youth that could take them up on the bus pass (youth aged 8 to 17), this would looks like about 40%, if it is only 12-17 year old youth that get the buses passes, this represents something over 55%
#3780
Posted 04 January 2020 - 02:11 PM
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