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#5161 A Girl is No one

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Posted 26 May 2020 - 04:25 PM

Of course it is, look who is on the board. Look at the stuff my favorite, Bernie Pauly, tweets and retweets. She clearly identifiers herself as being associated with UVIC with no statement that her comments are her own. I think that a reasonable person reading them would believe that they are an official position taken by the University.

https://twitter.com/BerniePauly

What on earth do they put in the prof’s water at UVIC? So much anger and resentment. It’s the first thing that jumps at me every time I see their rants.
Ironically, they are all so anti colonialists but aren’t universities a western creation? Isn’t that what exactly they are fighting against? Shouldn’t they be tearing down universities instead of wallowing in them and collecting their inflated salaries from “the man”?
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#5162 spanky123

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Posted 26 May 2020 - 04:30 PM

What on earth do they put in the prof’s water at UVIC? So much anger and resentment. It’s the first thing that jumps at me every time I see their rants.
Ironically, they are all so anti colonialists but aren’t universities a western creation? Isn’t that what exactly they are fighting against? Shouldn’t they be tearing down universities instead of wallowing in them and collecting their inflated salaries from “the man”?

 

And how many own houses and drive cars, etc. When you are privileged then the rules don't apply and you justify your own excess by convincing yourself that it is for the greater good.


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#5163 rmpeers

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Posted 26 May 2020 - 05:32 PM

I also heard Adam Stirling mention he was speaking with the Together Victoria candidate for the by-election (not sure who phoned who) and he asked her if she thought the fire dept. was not concerned with tent city safety, but only went in to tent cities as some sort of weapon to move people on. She refused to even discuss the topic! So anyone representing Together Victoria can't have their own opinion it seems.


The cannot state an opinion until their cult leader Bensplains what they are allowed to say.
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#5164 rmpeers

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Posted 26 May 2020 - 06:17 PM

But seriously, I'm sure TV candidates are not allowed to make public comments on anything remotely controversial. Also explains Potts' refusal to respond to Stirling.

#5165 GetLisaSomeHelps

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Posted 26 May 2020 - 06:26 PM

But seriously, I'm sure TV candidates are not allowed to make public comments on anything remotely controversial. Also explains Potts' refusal to respond to Stirling.


That's what gets me so upset over party politics making their way to the local level. You aren't leaders of the free world we just want the roadworkers to have a budget to fix potholes!
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#5166 Rob Randall

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Posted 26 May 2020 - 07:02 PM

I can assure you there are City Hall denizens that find the term "Bensplaining" hilarious but can't admit it publicly. 


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#5167 LJ

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Posted 26 May 2020 - 07:19 PM

Intersectional feminist.

 

I was going to look that up to see what it might mean but then I didn't.


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#5168 On the Level

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Posted 26 May 2020 - 07:20 PM

I can assure you there are City Hall denizens that find the term "Bensplaining" hilarious but can't admit it publicly. 

 

Gobbledyben.  Bensense.  Benerish.  Benrubbish.  Benpooey.  Bendribble.  Benhooey.  Benapplesauce.  Bentwaddle.


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#5169 LJ

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Posted 26 May 2020 - 07:30 PM

I can assure you there are City Hall denizens that find the term "Bensplaining" hilarious but can't admit it publicly. 

Why can't they admit it publicly? Can't they have different opinions than "dear leader?" I'm assuming these are city employees not staffers of city council.


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#5170 mbjj

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Posted 27 May 2020 - 01:55 PM

Gobbledyben.  Bensense.  Benerish.  Benrubbish.  Benpooey.  Bendribble.  Benhooey.  Benapplesauce.  Bentwaddle.

 

 

Gobbledyben.  Bensense.  Benerish.  Benrubbish.  Benpooey.  Bendribble.  Benhooey.  Benapplesauce.  Bentwaddle.

 

 

Gobbledyben.  Bensense.  Benerish.  Benrubbish.  Benpooey.  Bendribble.  Benhooey.  Benapplesauce.  Bentwaddle.

Best thing I've seen all day!



#5171 mbjj

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Posted 27 May 2020 - 01:56 PM

Sorry, don't know why that showed up three times.


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#5172 Sparky

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Posted 27 May 2020 - 02:03 PM

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Oh crap I missed this event.

Tax the rich tortilla soup take out? Really?

How rude!


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#5173 A Girl is No one

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Posted 27 May 2020 - 02:46 PM

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Oh crap I missed this event.

Tax the rich tortilla soup take out? Really?

How rude!

I guess no one explained to them that if you go to war against the rich, they will leave, and take along with them their tax contributions and the social programs they pay for (and poverty jobs they create).
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#5174 Rob Randall

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Posted 27 May 2020 - 02:52 PM

I took it as a self-deprecating joke. As in "we will charge each other ten bucks for a dollar's worth of soup and give the proceeds away to the poor". 


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#5175 North Shore

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Posted 27 May 2020 - 02:57 PM

I guess no one explained to them that if you go to war against the rich, they will leave, and take along with them their tax contributions and the social programs they pay for (and poverty jobs they create).

 

Will they really, though?    I can think of  a hundred different places to live, and then a couple of reasons not to for each one..

More than likely, it's the upper middle class who are going to get whacked with taxes - the ones who don't have any perceived mobility..


Say, what's that mountain goat doing up here in the mist?

#5176 Nparker

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Posted 27 May 2020 - 02:59 PM

...Tax the rich tortilla soup take out? Really? How rude!

Which proves that never has a political party name been less fitting that "Together" Victoria.


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#5177 Sparky

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Posted 27 May 2020 - 04:39 PM

I took it as a self-deprecating joke. As in "we will charge each other ten bucks for a dollar's worth of soup and give the proceeds away to the poor".


I had to look up the meaning of self deprecating.

It is my personal opinion that a political party should not toy with an adage like this that could be misconstrued on so many levels.

Poor form.

A socialist political collective should be more mindful of the their subliminal rhetoric when they are posing as representatives for the population as a whole. Their use of the term “Rich” should have been used with extreme caution.

How would you feel if the statement was “Tax the Blacks” or “Tax the Asians” or “Tax the Elderly “?
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#5178 Awaiting Juno

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Posted 28 May 2020 - 07:32 AM

The brand of socialism that is being advocated for isn't about people pulling together to achieve some common goal - it's about taking from those who are perceived to have had a better lot in life to give to those who are perceived to have a worse lot in life regardless of the choices or behaviours that resulted in the outcome.  It's about equality of outcome, rather than equality of opportunity - and really is disturbing, in part because of the lack of critical thinking that has gone into it.  It would be entirely reasonable to think that Together Victoria's answer to affordable housing in Victoria would be to hike property taxes on existing home owners to fund low income and affordable housing options - in short, their answer is to make housing less affordable for most to subsidize it for those who make the least income.  The worldview held seems to be low income=virtuous person who should be socially supported, high income= evil capitalist who must be punished for creating jobs.  What they neglect to realize is that really in Victoria nearly EVERYONE is working class for the most part, and the owners and operators of the larger businesses aren't even resident within Victoria's borders.

 

I'd be far more inspired if Together Victoria enabled a cooperative movement that combined aspects of habitat for humanity's model to create housing options that are affordable and sustainable, and not reliant on the public purse to make happen.  I'd also be far more inclined to think that they were interested in making it happen, if they were keen on looking at the underlying reasons housing in Victoria is so expensive to begin with - including the administrative and tax burden that is imposed on housing as well as a willingness to take a regional approach to the issue rather than a Victoria centric one.  Despite TV's name and considerable influence from the University of Saanich and Oak Bay (aka UVic) they seem not to have infiltrated any other municipal council within the region, only Victoria.


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#5179 Nparker

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Posted 28 May 2020 - 07:40 AM

...the owners and operators of the larger businesses aren't even resident within Victoria's borders...

Not unlike several members of the CoV council.


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#5180 sukika

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Posted 28 May 2020 - 08:29 AM

Is it cultural appropriation for them to use tortilla soup to further their agenda?  :lol:


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