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[Nparker]

I am sure that she is expensing them along with the airfare. Real easy to spend other people's money

Especially for what amounts to a pointless exercise in public relations. I mean is anyone's PoV going to be changed by this trip?

[spanky123]

Especially for what amounts to a pointless exercise in public relations. I mean is anyone's PoV going to be changed by this trip?

 

That is not the purpose off the trip. If you read the TC this morning, i think that it is clear that her goal is to change Albertan's PoV. This is a waste of money for whoever is paying for the trip (assuming the Mayor is telling the truth). It is a PR stunt that Helps will use to further her own aspirations.

[Mike K.]

Can't Helps pull a Ralph Lauren and appear as a hologram before the crowds, saving everyone a bunch of money, the earth from an unmitigated climate disaster and forgo buying carbon credits?

[rjag]

We can only hope its a 1 way ticket

[sebberry]

Helps will visit the oil sands, come back and proclaim another environmental catastrophe and nobody here will be allowed to drive anywhere.  

 

Actually, I think it's to see how Fort Mac manages their single use bag crisis.  

[Tom Braybrook]

Really, I'd be far more impressed should she come out to Oaklands and fix a few potholes.

Why can't these people stick to their mandate - they are MUNICIPAL politicians.

 

Whether or not she pays, they pay, carbon offsets, shmarbon offsets...it is all theatre! Who will we be paying to do her job while she is off sticking her nose in where it doesn't belong?

 

I am fairly certain we have Provincial and Federal representatives and civil servants working on this problem all the time.

[Nparker]

I agree 100% tommy.

[Tom Braybrook]

I agree 100% tommy.

SJW virtue signalling...nothing more from Helps(less)

[FogPub]

If the city has decided there's a climate crisis then why not implement the following very basic at-home solutions, all of which are within the city's purview to do and all of which will cut down on heating the great outdoors:

 

--- ban outdoor space heaters (like the ones you see on restaurant patios)

--- make it illegal to prop a door open when not in use if the heat (or A/C, for that matter) is running inside the building, except in unusual and temporary situations such as clearing an odor or fumes

--- mandate that all new commercial (over a reasonable size) or multi-unit residential developments must use "airlock" doors for their primary entrances (as in, two sets of doors separated by a short passage e.g. the entrance to Denny's on Douglas)

--- mandate that all new residential developments must provide a vehicle charging station for each parking spot on the premises (no point pushing electric cars if you can't charge them)

 

How's that for a start?

[Mike K.]

Here’s the catch-22 about this Calgary sideshow. The plane flies with or without the mayor, right? So no harm done. Well, the earth’s climate changes without or without the mayor’s motions, too.

The reasonable response for someone who is so concerned about climate is to have put off the engagement until such a time as official business absolutely required her to be in Alberta, or one of her councillors was in Alberta and could meet on her behalf. Considering the mayor’s position on climate change and being a climate steward Calgary would have understood.

[rjag]

If the city has decided there's a climate crisis then why not implement the following very basic at-home solutions, all of which are within the city's purview to do and all of which will cut down on heating the great outdoors:

 

--- ban outdoor space heaters (like the ones you see on restaurant patios)

--- make it illegal to prop a door open when not in use if the heat (or A/C, for that matter) is running inside the building, except in unusual and temporary situations such as clearing an odor or fumes

--- mandate that all new commercial (over a reasonable size) or multi-unit residential developments must use "airlock" doors for their primary entrances (as in, two sets of doors separated by a short passage e.g. the entrance to Denny's on Douglas)

--- mandate that all new residential developments must provide a vehicle charging station for each parking spot on the premises (no point pushing electric cars if you can't charge them)

 

How's that for a start?

 

Good ideas, however that flies in the face of affordability by adding more and more and is similar to the STEP code that developers are saying will add 10's of thousands to the cost of new builds

[Victoria Watcher]

Mayor Lisa Helps said the community consultation will be “meaningful,” even though it will be expedited.

The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change has stated that there is no time to waste in reducing greenhouse gases, and that means no time to waste in completing the bike network, she said.


https://www.timescol...work-1.23642139

[Victoria Watcher]

Coun. Jeremy Loveday said the climate emergency means the city has to take emergency action.

“My vision remains Victoria as a city where you can travel safely and conveniently from one neighbourhood to the next — from one side of the city to the other no matter what mode of transportation you use,” Loveday said.


https://www.timescol...work-1.23642139

[rjag]

Here’s the catch-22 about this Calgary sideshow. The plane flies with or without the mayor, right? So no harm done. Well, the earth’s climate changes without or without the mayor’s motions, too.

The reasonable response for someone who is so concerned about climate is to have put off the engagement until such a time as official business absolutely required her to be in Alberta, or one of her councillors was in Alberta and could meet on her behalf. Considering the mayor’s position on climate change and being a climate steward Calgary would have understood.

 

Oh she's just getting started...she's figured out all the noise people make cant really harm her as she cant be recalled....put on your seatbelts folks, we're in for quite the ride as she and Ben/Jeremy (as well as the Provincial NDP) add more and more restrictions/fees/taxes/controls etc in their efforts to decolonise/decorporatize and save us from the evils of capitalism....

 

I hope y'all like kale

[mbjj]

Really, I'd be far more impressed should she come out to Oaklands and fix a few potholes.

Why can't these people stick to their mandate - they are MUNICIPAL politicians.

 

Whether or not she pays, they pay, carbon offsets, shmarbon offsets...it is all theatre! Who will we be paying to do her job while she is off sticking her nose in where it doesn't belong?

 

I am fairly certain we have Provincial and Federal representatives and civil servants working on this problem all the time.

I can't even express any longer how much I despise 99% of this city council. It's bad for my blood pressure. I encourage everyone to keep driving their cars everywhere, plant cherry trees, use plastic bags, and generally do everything that cow doesn't want us to.

Edited by mbjj, 22 February 2019 - 08:20 AM.

[jonny]

The politics in this town exist in such a warped echo chamber. I mean, most places do too, but these people take themselves far too seriously. They way they speak sometimes, you'd think they were in charge of Germany or France and not a measly ~22% of the population of the quite small-ish CRD and 11% of the small population of Vancouver Island and less than 2% of the population of British Columbia. 99.9% of North America's population couldn't even point out Victoria on a globe.

 

These people actually think writing letters demanding reparations from Venezuela is a sensible step. They think installing bicycle lanes is going to help fix the #climateemergency (I'm not against bicycle lanes per se - but let's at least be honest about them). They think Trudeau and Notley give two shits about their O&G opinions. 

[Rob Randall]

[rjag]

^^^Haha Ben Isitt's saying "hold my beer" after he reads Bernies letter!!!

[AllseeingEye]

That is not the purpose off the trip. If you read the TC this morning, i think that it is clear that her goal is to change Albertan's PoV. This is a waste of money for whoever is paying for the trip (assuming the Mayor is telling the truth). It is a PR stunt that Helps will use to further her own aspirations.

Yes well good luck with that; I spent nearly 5 years on business commuting back and forth every quarter to Calgary and Edmonton to 2016. The perception and opinion of your average Albertan re: your average BC'er then wasn't exactly complimentary pahdnuh'. It wasn't then and it certainly isn't now amid the pipeline debate.

 

Wouldn't surprise me in the least since she was trying to buy her own railroad if Notley in anticipation of Helps' "tour" doesn't also assemble and put together her own air force with the intent of shooting down Lisa's plane the moment it crosses the Rockies.

 

Help's is either incredibly brave or incredibly dumb. Either way it'll be a reception she isn't likely to forget. It would be priceless to see her response to being confronted by some of those High River cowboys - which will be a long, long way from the friendly confines of the People's Commune of Fernwood, lol.....

[spanky123]

Help's is either incredibly brave or incredibly dumb. Either way it'll be a reception she isn't likely to forget. It would be priceless to see her response to being confronted by some of those High River cowboys - which will be a long, long way from the friendly confines of the People's Commune of Fernwood, lol.....

 

Its a win win for Helps. If she is confronted then she plays the victim and her supporters rally around her. If she is welcomed then she can claim that she engaged with the "other side" but they wouldn't yield.