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#61 RFS

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Posted 07 November 2018 - 09:53 AM

Mike and RFS ... the two most disingenuous posters on VV.

 

It's "OK" for you two pundits to spout your endless right wing crap ... but nobody can respond with a similar tone from the other side?

 

Unbelievable double standard, and makes you both look like total hypocrites.

 

Lol.  I feel like Trump wrote this



#62 RFS

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Posted 07 November 2018 - 09:55 AM

Trump striking a very conciliatory tone in his press conference.  On Nancy Pelosi, "I give her a lot of credit, she has worked long and hard for what she has accomplished".  Said he looks forward to working together with democrats on prescription drugs and infrastructure. 



#63 Greg

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Posted 07 November 2018 - 09:56 AM

Yes this is major and maybe the biggest story of the night. Honestly a big problem for the republicans. Could be the beginning of the end as America marches inevitably towards being a single party banana republic

 

No chance of the US becoming a single-party Democrat-led country, with the Democrats incredible ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. But it would be nice if election results swung a little closer to actually reflecting the voters' intent. The disproportionate influence of rural voters, and states with a very small number of residents, gives the Republicans better results than the raw vote should. When the Democrats lose Florida (a larger more urban State) on top of that, things are completely skewed. With Florida as a blue state, and maybe Texas moving that way from demographics, results would come closer to reflecting voter intent.

 

Or to put it in terms of the current BC election discussion: with proportionate representation the Democrats would have complete control of Congress.

 

(Of course, for that matter, with FPTP Hillary would be President :) )


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#64 RFS

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Posted 07 November 2018 - 09:58 AM

 

Or to put it in terms of the current BC election discussion: with proportionate representation the Democrats would have complete control of Congress.

 

(Of course, for that matter, with FPTP Hillary would be President :) )

 terrifying 



#65 lanforod

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Posted 07 November 2018 - 10:09 AM

 

 

Trump will become increasingly unhinged in his attacks now that there is one branch of government he does not control

 

He didn't control the Senate or House before at all, which is why only 1 major piece of legislation was passed!



#66 Mike K.

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Posted 07 November 2018 - 10:16 AM

He didn't control the Senate or House before at all, which is why only 1 major piece of legislation was passed!

 

Yes, good point.


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#67 Rob Randall

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Posted 07 November 2018 - 10:19 AM

Trump striking a very conciliatory tone in his press conference.  On Nancy Pelosi, "I give her a lot of credit, she has worked long and hard for what she has accomplished".  Said he looks forward to working together with democrats on prescription drugs and infrastructure. 

 

I think Trump genuinely admires how she's fended off attacks from rivals. To him that's the only metric that matters--performance on the stage. It doesn't matter if it's an ally, a bitter rival, close friend or a demented dictator; nothing else matters except the performance and how it plays for the media.

 

That explains his fascination with dictators. He doesn't care about their crimes--he's obsessed with how they successfully wield power and crush enemies. He's not impressed by the Saudis--not because they're evil--but because they clumsily botched an operation and were made to look like fools in front of the world compared to Putin who can get away with anything.

 

That, in a nutshell, is the Trump psyche.


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#68 Mike K.

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Posted 07 November 2018 - 10:21 AM

Alright then, but now say all that in Haiku form.

 

:rtfm:


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#69 Bob Fugger

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Posted 07 November 2018 - 10:23 AM

He didn't control the Senate or House before at all, which is why only 1 major piece of legislation was passed!

 

He had control of the Senate: it was 51-49 in favour of the GOP.  That's kinda how Kavanaugh was confirmed (with one from each party voting against party lines, essentially cancelling themselves out).



#70 Jason-L

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Posted 07 November 2018 - 10:24 AM

I think Trump genuinely admires how she's fended off attacks from rivals. To him that's the only metric that matters--performance on the stage. It doesn't matter if it's an ally, a bitter rival, close friend or a demented dictator; nothing else matters except the performance and how it plays for the media.

 

That explains his fascination with dictators. He doesn't care about their crimes--he's obsessed with how they successfully wield power and crush enemies. He's not impressed by the Saudis--not because they're evil--but because they clumsily botched an operation and were made to look like fools in front of the world compared to Putin who can get away with anything.

 

That, in a nutshell, is the Trump psyche.

Alternatively, the amount of money the Saudis are kicking into the Trump organization is no longer as rich as the money coming from the Putin organization, so he can afford to apply some pressure on the Saudis to get them to up their contributions.



#71 Mike K.

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Posted 07 November 2018 - 10:25 AM

He had control of the Senate: it was 51-49 in favour of the GOP.  That's kinda how Kavanaugh was confirmed (with one from each party voting against party lines, essentially cancelling themselves out).

 

But then you had the McCain debacle.


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#72 Bob Fugger

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Posted 07 November 2018 - 10:26 AM

But then you had the McCain debacle.

Fair play.  It was a tenuous hold at best.



#73 nerka

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Posted 07 November 2018 - 10:27 AM

They gave up on their manufactured, sensational nonsense days ahead of the election? You don’t say ;)

A few months back polls had the Dems up 11% in generic vote.  At that point in time forecasters were saying the Dems had a 1/3 chance of taking the Senate, and the possibility of a big wave in the House.  As the election approached polls moved toward the Repubs so that the Dems were only up 6-8%. At that point in time forecasters were calling Senate 80-90% R and House 80-90% D.

 

Forecasters also correctly stated that the Dems NEEDED to be up 6-7 percent just to overcome the Republican gerrymanders of house districts.

 

This election is a triumph of polling and quantitative prediction relative to the big miss of 2016. Relative to polls there was a slight Republican overperformance but way within the margin of error.


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#74 RFS

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Posted 07 November 2018 - 10:30 AM

A few months back polls had the Dems up 11% in generic vote.  At that point in time forecasters were saying the Dems had a 1/3 chance of taking the Senate, and the possibility of a big wave in the House.  As the election approached polls moved toward the Repubs so that the Dems were only up 6-8%. At that point in time forecasters were calling Senate 80-90% R and House 80-90% D.

 

Forecasters also correctly stated that the Dems NEEDED to be up 6-7 percent just to overcome the Republican gerrymanders of house districts.

 

This election is a triumph of polling and quantitative prediction relative to the big miss of 2016. Relative to polls there was a slight Republican overperformance but way within the margin of error.

 

The republicans gerrymander and the democrats import voters.  Call it 'demographic gerrymandering'.  The republicans impose politically advantageous strict voting laws and the democrats are in bed with the media who put out a non-stop barrage of political advertising for them.  They all have their advantages 



#75 Greg

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Posted 07 November 2018 - 10:36 AM

I think Trump genuinely admires how she's fended off attacks from rivals. To him that's the only metric that matters--performance on the stage. It doesn't matter if it's an ally, a bitter rival, close friend or a demented dictator; nothing else matters except the performance and how it plays for the media.

 

That explains his fascination with dictators. He doesn't care about their crimes--he's obsessed with how they successfully wield power and crush enemies. He's not impressed by the Saudis--not because they're evil--but because they clumsily botched an operation and were made to look like fools in front of the world compared to Putin who can get away with anything.

 

That, in a nutshell, is the Trump psyche.

 

 

Alright then, but now say all that in Haiku form.

 

:rtfm:

 

Trump has no values

Trump only cares about Trump

Reality star



#76 Rob Randall

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Posted 07 November 2018 - 10:38 AM

Alright then, but now say all that in Haiku form.

 

:rtfm:

 

goodness or evil?
 irrelevant nomclature

performance is all


Edited by Rob Randall, 07 November 2018 - 10:38 AM.

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#77 Greg

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Posted 07 November 2018 - 10:39 AM

goodness or evil?
 irrelevant nomclature

performance is all

 

That's a generous piece of poetic license, there.



#78 Mike K.

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Posted 07 November 2018 - 10:41 AM

Now we’re getting somewhere!

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#79 Rob Randall

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Posted 07 November 2018 - 10:45 AM

That's a generous piece of poetic license, there.

 

Damn, I missed a syllable.

 

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Scott Walker lost Wisconsin, that's good news. 


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#80 shoeflack

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Posted 07 November 2018 - 10:58 AM

Scott Walker lost Wisconsin, that's good news. 

 

And perhaps best of all, Walker just recently signed a law tightening recount rules. Now, only candidates who lose by 1% or less can call for a recount. Currently, Walker is down by 1.1% on Evers.

 

The funny piece in all of this; the Walker campaign has yet to concede and is grasping at straws trying to figure out how to request a recount.


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