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[Bingo]

I can't see how the 3 party leaders would have agreed to the course of action taken unless there was some indication of the issue at stake.

 

Or, as we have recently seen...how 2 mayors would have....blah ,blah, blah

[Bernard]

If the Speaker loses the confidence of the House, and needs to be replaced, the Government's thin margin of control becomes slimmer. Hourgan is hoping like hell that the RCMP will come up with something so the old "it's before the Courts" argument will enable them to do nothing.

To lose the confidence of the House the majority of MLAs would have to vote to remove him, I do not see that happening.    In any case the House is not sitting again till February so nothing will be happening on that end till at least that time 

[Torrontes]

To lose the confidence of the House the majority of MLAs would have to vote to remove him, I do not see that happening.    In any case the House is not sitting again till February so nothing will be happening on that end till at least that time 

 

Which is why it suddenly appeared that no one on the government side knew anything about the "investigation" and were quite happy to wait as long as required to see what the police might discover. If in doubt, kick the issue down the road.

[Bingo]

    In any case the House is not sitting again till February so nothing will be happening on that end till at least that time 

So lots of time to take the family on an all expenses paid trip to Hawaii.

[Bingo]

The Speaker of British Columbia’s legislature has promised to resign if a financial audit he is recommending doesn’t prompt public outrage and back his handling of a controversy that has engulfed the province’s politics.

 “This has gone on far enough, I’ve been reduced to a cartoon character,” said Plecas. “The press has focused on nothing but this issue since this first happened.”

https://www.theglobe...ls-situation-a/

[Torrontes]

The "manager" from Dilbert comes to mind.

[Rob Randall]

I don't understand the howls of traitor for Plecas. As I understood,nobody was stepping forward to be speaker, particularly the NDP as that would have resulted in a very unstable government, almost evenly tied. But someone had to do it or government would grind to a halt and eventually Plecas, never a hardcore Liberal anyway, came forward and volunteered. Now things can get underway without every vote being a crisis.

 

To me it looked like he put Province ahead of party but to others Plecas might as well have drowned a bag of kittens.

 

As for this latest revelation it better pan out the way he says or else. We're putting even more shaky faith into Plecas' actions.

Edited by Rob Randall, 07 December 2018 - 07:23 AM.

[Torrontes]

He saw an opportunity to obtain the recognition he thought he so richly deserved. He appeared bitter that he was not appointed to the Liberal cabinet.

 

OK, that's understandable. Then he goes on a crusade to clean up what he believes to be waste and unseemly conduct at the legislature. There is some merit in that.

 

Instead of using the normal processes, he hires a "friend" of questionable credentials to conduct an "investigation" and proposes that he be appointed to a position not consistent with his qualifications.

 

That raises real questions as to his judgment.

 

Now he is complaining?? Not much sympathy for that.

[spanky123]

As long as we get some resolution to this in the near term it seems like a win win. If Plecas is right then we save some money and get rid of the problem. If Plecas is wrong then we save some money and get rid of the problem (assuming he and his pal keep their promises to quit).

[Mike K.]

Rob Shaw, speaking to Al Farraby on CFAX just now, believes the NDP is very worried about the whole situation and not only because their government will be on the verge of collapse of Plecas resigns.

[Rob Randall]

Is there an unspoken sense that if Plecas were to resign it would be the NDP's turn to offer a speaker?

 

This reminds me of trying to convince someone to play goalie at lunch hour floor hockey at elementary school.

[Mystic-Pizza]

Pleca's upcoming resignation seems like something that was well planned in advance.........to the advantage of the BC Liberal Party of course.

[PraiseKek]

The biggest tell here is the NDP being so cagey in the house about the situation and the liberals pressing for more information. The NDP is indeed worried about something here.

[spanky123]

The biggest tell here is the NDP being so cagey in the house about the situation and the liberals pressing for more information. The NDP is indeed worried about something here.

 

If nothing else they run the Government and the problem was exposed right under their noses by a Liberal. With the Nanaimo race being far tighter than anyone expected initially this could be a real issue.

[jonny]

As for this latest revelation it better pan out the way he says or else. We're putting even more shaky faith into Plecas' actions.

 

A lot of things stink in this province right now. How bad is the corruption?

 

Plecas knows he cannot be removed, or at least knows it's very unlikely he would be removed. That's an inherently dangerous situation. That stinks. 

 

Plecas behaviour since this whole thing erupted, including but not limited to him stating his conduct has been perfect, stinks. The Speaker should not be erratic, ever. 

 

We already know within a few short months he hired his buddy into a high paying government job. That stinks. 

 

We know the global environmental lobby is laser focused on BC and stopping Canadian energy projects. That sinks. 

 

The PR referendum stinks to high heaven. Stupid process. Stupid options. Stupid mail in ballot procedure. Deadlines arbitrarily extended. 

 

Now we are hearing more and more about federal organized crime probes focusing in on this province (casinos/real estate/opioids???). 

[Mystic-Pizza]

A lot of things stink in this province right now. How bad is the corruption?

 

Plecas knows he cannot be removed, or at least knows it's very unlikely he would be removed. That's an inherently dangerous situation. That stinks. 

 

Plecas behaviour since this whole thing erupted, including but not limited to him stating his conduct has been perfect, stinks. The Speaker should not be erratic, ever. 

 

We already know within a few short months he hired his buddy into a high paying government job. That stinks. 

 

We know the global environmental lobby is laser focused on BC and stopping Canadian energy projects. That sinks. 

 

The PR referendum stinks to high heaven. Stupid process. Stupid options. Stupid mail in ballot procedure. Deadlines arbitrarily extended. 

 

Now we are hearing more and more about federal organized crime probes focusing in on this province (casinos/real estate/opioids???). 

 

 

And remember, many of those corrupt behaviours we are seeing from Plecas  were taking place prior to the last provincial election.  He's just carried it on into the role of Speaker.

 

Plecas served with the BC libs, and he is still a BC Lib when he is not in the building.

Edited by Mystic-Pizza, 07 December 2018 - 10:42 AM.

[Mike K.]

^on what basis can you even make such a claim that?

[Torrontes]

I think he honestly believes that something rotten is and was going on, but the manner in which he attempted to bring the issues to light were ill-conceived and his response once challenged put him deeper in the hole.

 

If you want to play tough with the big boys and girls, you need to follow established rules of engagement.

 

I don't think he ever really considered himself a Liberal, which impacted his chance of being promoted within their ranks. It was simply a means to get elected. He is certainly no longer a Liberal.

[Bernard]

It is important for everyone to remember that this completely outside the jurisdiction of the government.  There is no way this is at all something that can be blamed on the NDP government. 

 

As to Plecas doing something to benefit the Liberals, he utterly burned his relationship with the party.   

[spanky123]

It is important for everyone to remember that this completely outside the jurisdiction of the government.  There is no way this is at all something that can be blamed on the NDP government. 

 

As to Plecas doing something to benefit the Liberals, he utterly burned his relationship with the party.   

 

At the end of the day, the public will blame the NDP if it turns out that there was any merit to the action. Right or wrong.