51 replies to this topic

[Victoria Watcher]

hold on. not necessarily premeditated.

 

1st also applies if it's in conjunction with sexual assault or kidnapping / forcible confinement also.

[RFS]

hold on. not necessarily premeditated.

1st also applies if it's in conjunction with sexual assault or kidnapping / forcible confinement also.

And soon it will apply if the victim belongs to certain racial groups if some people get their way

[Mike K.]

Ah, very good. You’re right about the sexual assault aspect and kidnapping.

RFS, what do you mean?

[Victoria Watcher]

means some groups would like hate crime murders to have elevated penalties.

[martini]

Ah, very good. You’re right about the sexual assault aspect and kidnapping.

RFS, what do you mean?

Yes I was unaware of the specifics.
https://laws-lois.ju...ection-231.html

RFS I too am curious what and who you are referring to.

[Victoria Watcher]

there is a gofundme

 

https://www.gofundme...bFLsOt-Bqki2IfM

[sdwright.vic]

RFS I too am curious what and who you are referring to.

I am curious as well... 🤔

[RFS]

Ah, very good. You’re right about the sexual assault aspect and kidnapping.

RFS, what do you mean?

 

Yes I was unaware of the specifics.
https://laws-lois.ju...ection-231.html

RFS I too am curious what and who you are referring to.

 

I am curious as well...

 

https://nationalpost...ndigenous-women

 

'MMIW chief commissioner recommends automatic first-degree murder charges for killings of Indigenous women'

In a taste of what’s to come when the national inquiry releases its final report next month, Marion Buller told a parliamentary committee this week that homicides involving Indigenous women must be treated automatically as first-degree murder. She also said that in criminal cases where the complainant is an Indigenous woman, judges must consider that fact as an aggravating factor when sentencing the offender.

[Victoria Watcher]

and there you have it.

[LJ]

https://nationalpost...ndigenous-women

 

'MMIW chief commissioner recommends automatic first-degree murder charges for killings of Indigenous women'

In a taste of what’s to come when the national inquiry releases its final report next month, Marion Buller told a parliamentary committee this week that homicides involving Indigenous women must be treated automatically as first-degree murder. She also said that in criminal cases where the complainant is an Indigenous woman, judges must consider that fact as an aggravating factor when sentencing the offender.

I'm OK with that, I'm betting over 90% of the killers were indigenous men.

[RFS]

I'm OK with that, I'm betting over 90% of the killers were indigenous men.

Ah, but it's already the law in Canada that the courts give "lenient or creative sentences" for aboriginal offenders offenders so they'll be okay.

[Love the rock]

It’s horrible when anyone is murdered .Someone that is thought of as not being able to defend yourself as adequately as the killer because of gender ,age or any handicap reeks of unfairness . When a child is murdered my heart breaks more than hearing about gang members killing each other but both have been murdered I think it’s dangerous to pick one race of people who laws apply to only and not any other . It opens up whole new set of problems. It discriminates and does not treat all Canadians equally under the law . Do you have to be female with status or does it apply to any female with mixed blood .Could a family of a murdered woman request her murder be bumped up hoping for a longer sentence claiming she identified as First Nations.Wouldn’t it be better to concentrate on helping First Nations women to grow up to be healthy, educated, strong and independent. So they intern can raise the same qualities in their children male and female.
Tough call .

[Victoria Watcher]

I'm OK with that, I'm betting over 90% of the killers were indigenous men.

 

probably.  but that's not a main conclusion the panel will draw.

[Victoria Watcher]

brentwood bay murder suspect now also charged with hurting the two others.

[Nparker]

Was he officially charged with "hurting"? 

Edited by Nparker, 24 May 2019 - 05:40 PM.

[Victoria Watcher]

some type of assault charges. I don’t know the specific charges.

[Nparker]

...Along with a charge of first degree murder, Alan Charles Chapman also faces two additional charges of aggravated assault against the murder victim's uncle and her boyfriend...

http://www.iheartrad...urder-1.9221911

 

[Victoria Watcher]

Officers found four adults, including the suspect and two men who were rushed to hospital in serious condition. The suspect was immediately placed under arrest.  The fourth adult, a woman, was found dead at the scene.

 

 

https://globalnews.c...uspect-charged/

 

Josh Haymes, a neighbour from down the street, told Black Press Media, that he was pulling into his driveway as the altercation was happening. According to Haymes, a man ran out of the house and jumped into a white car that “almost ran him over” as Haymes ran towards the house while calling 911.

 

 

https://www.sookenew...pears-in-court/

 

A young woman who was murdered this past weekend in a Brentwood Bay home was not the intended target, family say.

 

On Saturday May 11th, at around 12:30 a.m., 20-year-old Emily Caruana was killed in what police say is not a random attack,

 

 

According to Sonier, her husband and 4-year-old daughter were visiting his mother, Doris Caruana at her Brentwood Bay home after Doris’ husband Victor passed away on March 14th, 2019.

 

Their only niece, Emily Caruana and her boyfriend were also visiting Doris to celebrate Mother’s Day with her grandmother.

 

The five of them had just spent a memorable day together at the museum and the petting zoo before heading back to Doris’ Meadowlark Lane home for the night. At the time of the attack, all five were fast asleep.

 

 

http://www.victoriab...ntended-target/

 

so to recap police find 4 adults.  including the suspect and the deceased.  even though that suspect or someone else had sped off in a white car.

 

police find 4 adults.  but 5 people had gone to bed (one was a minor) and the 4th police found (the suspect) was not one of the 5 that went to sleep.

 

family says the dead woman was not the target.  police say it was not a random attack.  then police charge the suspect with 1st degree murder.

 

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Edited by Victoria Watcher, 15 May 2019 - 03:22 PM.

[Victoria Watcher]

Crown prosecutor John Labossiere said Chapman will remain in custody through the course of any criminal trial.

 

“The only person that can do a judicial release on a first-degree murder count is a (B.C.) Supreme Court Judge,” he said.

 

 

https://globalnews.c...uspect-charged/

 

Outside of court, McCullough said he is not ruling out a bail application for Berry. He mentioned two of his other clients who are charged with murder and are out on bail, one in Kelowna and one in Nanaimo.

 

“They are out on bail. One is charged with first and one is charged with second. People who are charged with murder get out on bail,” said McCullough. “It’s not an absolute prohibition.”

 

 

https://www.trailtim...-young-sisters/

 

Sebastien Normandin, who is facing two charges of attempted murder, jumped bail by flying to England on Oct. 21, and then carrying on to France.

 

 

That information was revealed Friday in Victoria provincial court as Crown prosecutor Jess Patterson applied to have the $5,000 cash deposit on Normandin’s bail forfeited.

 

 

https://www.timescol...ance-1.23104560

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 15 May 2019 - 03:49 PM.

[Victoria Watcher]

chapman is expected to make a court appearance on august 1.

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 21 July 2019 - 07:07 AM.