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#81 jonny

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Posted 27 July 2019 - 11:29 AM

If those boys don’t have a hell of a lot of Off loaded with Deet they are going to be one miserable pair when they are found.

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Posted 27 July 2019 - 11:47 AM

if they have killed themselves or each other will they ever be found?  i guess it's a real unknown what supplies or equipment they took into the bush if that's where they have gone.

 

they also might have just become lost in the woods by accident.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Gillam is the end of the road.

Almost literally and, perhaps, figuratively as a manhunt for a pair of fugitives accused of killing three people continues in the remote, inhospitable area of northern Manitoba.

“It really is. The road ends here in Manitoba. This is the dead-end corner of the world,” said Jesse Taylor, a town employee who spends his free time in the wilderness that stretches in all directions around Gillam and nearby Fox Lake Cree Nation.

“I see it as the perfect place to get caught.”

 

 

https://nationalpost...o_autoplay=true


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Posted 27 July 2019 - 12:11 PM

I watched enough fugitive films to know this is the point where they start to turn on each other.
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Posted 27 July 2019 - 06:20 PM

As Port Alberni deals with the weight of two young local men accused of murder and on the run, many here don’t want to talk.

The receptionist’s warm greeting turns tense as she learns that the person who’s approached the front desk is a reporter.

She tells Star Vancouver that she can’t talk and that Port Alberni’s city manager emailed all city staff with instructions to not talk to media and instead direct them to contact city management. The receptionist also refused to suggest a community leader who might want to speak to media and repeated the instructions she had been given — to not talk to reporters.

 

 

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Posted 28 July 2019 - 03:32 PM

The father of a British Columbia murder suspect has written a book that sheds new light on his mental health, explains harassment convictions involving his ex-wife and provides greater insight into the possible impacts the events had on his fugitive son.

 

Alan Schmegelsky, the father of 18-year-old Bryer Schmegelsky, sent a book to reporters this week titled "Red Flagged," which he says is a novelization of actual events and fictionalizes some incidents.

 

 

https://www.timescol...book-1.23898967


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Posted 28 July 2019 - 04:01 PM

He wrote a book since his son was named as a suspect 5 days ago?



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Posted 28 July 2019 - 04:04 PM

He wrote a book since his son was named as a suspect 5 days ago?

 

132 pages yup.

 

 

 

 

 

The 132-page book, which Alan Schmegelsky said he planned to self-publish this week but now does not intend to publish for sale, reveals new details of his troubled life and his numerous encounters with police and courts.

He said he sent the book to reporters to highlight how a "broken system" has shaped him and his son.

 

"My son and I have been treated like footballs. It's time for some truth," he said.

 

He writes that he was arrested by Victoria police on Aug. 4, 2008, his son Bryer's eighth birthday, three years after his acrimonious split with the boy's mother. In a rambling, profanity-laden recollection, he explains how he was sentenced to probation because he had no criminal history at the time.

 

Court records show he was charged with criminal harassment in December 2008. He was found guilty of the lesser offence of disobeying a court order.

 

He returned to court numerous times over the next decade.

 

A new criminal harassment charge was filed in 2012 and a number of breach of probation charges were added in 2014. He was later found guilty of the criminal harassment charge and some probation charges.

In 2016, he was found guilty of two additional criminal harassment charges, and in January 2018, he was found guilty of another criminal harassment charge and two breach of probation charges.

 

It's unclear whether his ex-wife was the target of the harassment in each case, but Schmegelsky said in an interview that at least some of the charges were filed because the boy's mother feared he would murder her, saying he was schizophrenic and was not taking his medication. He denies these allegations.

 

 

 

https://www.timescol...book-1.23898967


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Posted 28 July 2019 - 04:10 PM

RCMP searching York Landing, MB for B.C. murder suspects

 

 

 

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Posted 28 July 2019 - 05:13 PM

132 pages yup.

 

 

 

 

 

The 132-page book, which Alan Schmegelsky said he planned to self-publish this week but now does not intend to publish for sale, reveals new details of his troubled life and his numerous encounters with police and courts.

He said he sent the book to reporters to highlight how a "broken system" has shaped him and his son.

 

"My son and I have been treated like footballs. It's time for some truth," he said.

 

He writes that he was arrested by Victoria police on Aug. 4, 2008, his son Bryer's eighth birthday, three years after his acrimonious split with the boy's mother. In a rambling, profanity-laden recollection, he explains how he was sentenced to probation because he had no criminal history at the time.

 

Court records show he was charged with criminal harassment in December 2008. He was found guilty of the lesser offence of disobeying a court order.

 

He returned to court numerous times over the next decade.

 

A new criminal harassment charge was filed in 2012 and a number of breach of probation charges were added in 2014. He was later found guilty of the criminal harassment charge and some probation charges.

In 2016, he was found guilty of two additional criminal harassment charges, and in January 2018, he was found guilty of another criminal harassment charge and two breach of probation charges.

 

It's unclear whether his ex-wife was the target of the harassment in each case, but Schmegelsky said in an interview that at least some of the charges were filed because the boy's mother feared he would murder her, saying he was schizophrenic and was not taking his medication. He denies these allegations.

 

 

 

https://www.timescol...book-1.23898967

 

 

so he writes a book blaming the system for his problems and his child possibly being a murderer yet takes no responsibility on himself



#90 AllseeingEye

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Posted 28 July 2019 - 05:17 PM

Amusing reading the FB 'court of opinion' on various groups; some of the comments are just whacked. Clearly many of those people are obviously so much smarter than the RCMP and the military. OTOH its pretty easy sitting in the cheap seats and chirping off about what the police and military 'should be doing' when those couch potato cowboy yahoos aren't in possession of the information that the cops and the Armed Forced personnel obviously are privy to...


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#91 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 29 July 2019 - 04:07 AM

that’s the thing right the rcmp are only giving us little blips of information. probably sharing less than 1% of what they know.

and when they do share it’s very very deliberate.

for example they went waaaaay our if their way to say they were starting door knocking in gillam.

and that they were searching the new location 90km away today.

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#92 Rob Randall

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Posted 29 July 2019 - 08:44 AM

OBP getting feisty:

 

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#93 Mike K.

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Posted 29 July 2019 - 08:53 AM

That's a lot of text. They couldn't find an animated gif, I guess?

 

Btw, they are "alleged" to be dangerous criminals. They have not been convicted of any crime.


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Posted 29 July 2019 - 09:25 AM

Also, come on, they're not tanks. That's pretty sensationalist. They're 4x4s with 3/4" steel for body panels and bullet resistant glass
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Posted 29 July 2019 - 05:42 PM

Some of the RCMP officers in pursuit of two B.C. homicide suspects are leaving York Landing, Man., after their extensive search of the community appeared to turn up nothing. 

The emergency response team is returning to Gillam, and the major crime unit has left, according to York Factory First Nation Chief Leroy Constant.

More officers will leave the community by ferry on Tuesday, Constant said in a Facebook post shortly after 5 p.m. CT. The RCMP did not respond to questions about their deployment. 

The shift in strategy comes one day after officers received a "credible" tip that two men matching the descriptions of Bryer Schmegelsky, 18, and Kam McLeod, 19, were spotted near the remote community's garbage dump.

 

 

https://www.cbc.ca/n...tives-1.5228561

 

The community of about 500 people — which is 90 kilometres southwest of Gillam, and nearly 700 kilometres north of Winnipeg — is only accessible by air or by a two-hour boat ride. There is also a rail line about 25 kilometres south of York Landing, RCMP said.

 

 

i'm not convinced the tip was credible.  it seems like a really odd location.


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#96 AllseeingEye

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Posted 29 July 2019 - 06:57 PM

Also, come on, they're not tanks. That's pretty sensationalist. They're 4x4s with 3/4" steel for body panels and bullet resistant glass

Well therein lies a problem: your average Canadian including Mr Furr, who apparently gets his sense of the real world from a TV "reality" series, wouldn't know an aircraft carrier from a tugboat, nor apparently an actual TANK from a reinforced SUV. Typical....

 

And like most of those dumb Canucks he doesn't know dick about the history of his country: "militarization" of the police??! My dear fellow the RCMP are a quasi military force in that their 19th roots are firmly planted in their paramilitary past.

 

Among other "military" engagements the RCMP participated in the North West Rebellion, the South African/Boer War, WWI, WWII, and 30-odd years of UN missions: I suggest he stick to making fantasy TV schlock.....

 

For the illiterate, or those like Mr Furr who are perhaps too lazy to look it up below are pics of an RCMP 'militarized' vehicle - essentially a souped up armored SUV - and an actual TANK....

 

Unlike the RCMP armored car, an honest to goodness TANK weighs up to 70_tons, has a layered ceramic or composite armor skin capable of withstanding biological and chemical attack, is virtually impervious to everything save a direct hit by a nuclear weapon, and it can traverse virtually any terrain at a speed up to 60kph and - "oh yes" - it has a GREAT BLOODY HUGE 125mm GUN capable of hurling HE, HEAT, armor piercing or bunker busting shells via kinetic energy, up to 6-7 kilometers; that gun is perched rather prominently on the front of thing - which you really cannot miss unless like Mr. Furr's world view, you suffer from myopia.....

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#97 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 30 July 2019 - 02:51 AM

by all accounts here it’s nearly impossible that they made it into york landing.

https://nationalpost...tions-community

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Posted 30 July 2019 - 08:12 AM

cops forgot to tell us this:



Councilor Nathan Neckoway from the Tataskweyak Cree Nation told the news outlet the pair were stopped during a routine check for alcohol in the dry community near Split Lake --located about 150 miles from Gillam -- but were let go when authorities didn't find anything.

“We weren’t aware of their status, of them being wanted,” Neckoway told Global News. “Apparently after they came to our community, that’s when they sent out that wanted [status].”


https://www.foxnews....d-official-says

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Posted 30 July 2019 - 08:33 AM

so they stopped the suspects on July 22.

the suspects’ burned truck and the dead guy were found July 19.

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Posted 30 July 2019 - 08:41 AM

by all accounts here it’s nearly impossible that they made it into york landing.

https://nationalpost...tions-community

 

The one thing I'll note, and of course at this point it's not even confirmed that these guys were even the ones seen in York Landing, is that in all these takes from locals about how they'd get to town, no one ever mentions hiking. And when they do, they talk about hiking thorough deep, swampy bush. I suspect that's because even the locals generally wouldn't travel by foot between communities, because why would they ever need to.

 

The reality is there are a few relatively walkable options if you ever find yourself lost or wandering in the great outdoors; a rail line, a hydro cut, or a pipeline. All are maintained so they can be accessed for regular maintenance, and all frequently have random sheds or buildings along their routes (to store maintenance equipment, for switches, etc.)

 

Even in it's state of disrepair, I could easily hike up Island along the tracks...and in this case, there's an active rail line that's far better maintained, not to mention some direct hydro cuts that go point-to-point between Gillam and York Landing.

 

From my admittedly outside perspective, the hiking option certainly seems perfectly viable; even moreso by the latest remarks that they had camping gear in their vehicle.


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