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[spanky123]

Does the CRD have that kind of power?

 

All you need is one protestor strapping themselves to a tree or one FN leader claiming that they have title and haven't been consulted and you have a stalemate. 

 

No political party is going to invest any money or time in this.

[rjag]

Listening to Mitzi Dean today on the radio and I dont have much hope that we will see a cure for this....more likely a graded fire access road behind a gate. Too many enviro's making noises about personal autos and how we all should be on a bus/train thing.

 

My bet is no new road and a stupid 60/70km/h speed limit with average speed cams and more buses.

 

We really are the laughing stock of the rest of the world

[Nparker]

Comrade Ben has already added his (overpriced) 2 cents: https://www.cheknews...-island-523278/

(see around 1:27 on the above clip)

[RFS]

Freaking pathetic when our local “leaders” are actively working and arguing against what the vast majority of us actually want. Talk to anyone who lives here and uses the malahat and the vast majority want something to be done. Talk to those of us outsid the CoV and it’s unanimous

[On the Level]

Isitt's base aren't the ones affected by the traffic on the Malihat and he gets political points for speaking out. 

 

It's easy to be idealistic when you are not on the hook for fixing an issue.  What's his solution?...moving 300,000 people into the core? 

[Nparker]

...What's his solution?...moving 300,000 people into the core? 

In $500/month, city-owned, taxpayer-funded apartments, no less.

[Cassidy]

Isitt talks about "natural beauty" ... but the part of the Niagara Main (or better yet, an entirely new road) that would be used for a bypass is inaccessible to everybody currently. Well in side the Watershed, nobody but trespassers or CRD employees ever get to see it.

 

I get that natural beauty is desirable, and I get that all natural beauty doesn't need a road through it so folks can enjoy it ... but that's what this discussion is about - A ROAD.

 

And Isitt's response is "we can't build a road" ... while the study (and the discussion) is about building A ROAD!

Insanity 

[nerka]

yes the maniacal protection of every bit of land in the watershed is over the top.

the circle route is not a realistic detour mr. hicks. you are talking about a 3-hour detour to avoid a 50m strip of Malahat road where the crash is.

I doubt Hicks cares about the watershed. His interest is in getting a better road through his bailiwick.

[FogPub]

Build a whole new limited-access highway from just south of Goldstream to just north of the current Malahat and let the existing Malahat become the detour route.

 

Then fix Duncan.

[spanky123]

Freaking pathetic when our local “leaders” are actively working and arguing against what the vast majority of us actually want. Talk to anyone who lives here and uses the malahat and the vast majority want something to be done. Talk to those of us outsid the CoV and it’s unanimous

 

Well Ben and the Mayor consistently remind us now that the vast majority do support them which is why they were re-elected.

[RFS]

Well Ben and the Mayor consistently remind us now that the vast majority do support them which is why they were re-elected.

 

But we are talking about the CRD.  I think if you polled the people of Saanich, Langford, Colwood, View Royal, Malahat, Shawnigan Lake, Mill Bay, etc, 99% would want another route 

[Nparker]

...I think if you polled the people of Saanich, Langford, Colwood, View Royal, Malahat, Shawnigan Lake, Mill Bay, etc, 99% would want another route 

As probably would many residents of the city of Victoria. It bears repeating that the current makeup of council and its representatives on the CRD board do not necessarily reflect the wishes of a great number of residents of the CoV.

[Victoria Watcher]

the problem is that they need to be seen as “progressive” or they want to be. building or expanding car roads does not fit that desire. talking about ferries (Colwood Mayor) and rail (everyone) is more fun.

[GabriolaGirl]

My own personal story about the Malahat is that it is easier for me to go to Vancouver for cancer treatment than to Victoria.  I have been caught up in 2 road closures trying to get to my appts.  

My stress level is way down, it's "only" on average 6 hours to get to Vancouver and costs little in gas $.  I won't change back until something is done about the road between Duncan & Victoria.

[Cassidy]

My own personal story about the Malahat is that it is easier for me to go to Vancouver for cancer treatment than to Victoria.  I have been caught up in 2 road closures trying to get to my appts.  

My stress level is way down, it's "only" on average 6 hours to get to Vancouver and costs little in gas $.  I won't change back until something is done about the road between Duncan & Victoria.

I'm no supporter of the current Malahat by any means, but doesn't this make very good sense for somebody living on Gabriola anyway?

 

Why would you drive 220 clicks (110 each way) when you could drive 50 clicks (25 each way), and sit back enjoying a coffee for a large part of the trip

I guess it really comes down to ferry fares vs. cost of gas ... but personally even if the ferry was a bit more $$, I'd take the ferry trip to Vancouver option over the driving 220 clicks on one of the worst roads in B.C. (if not Canada).

[Sparky]

This piece of road is part of our National Highway System. If I were in charge, I would send the blasting crew in and bite off a big part of that mountain to the west of the road, make it 6 lanes to accommodate future growth and send the invoice to JT.

There what’s next?

https://en.m.wikiped...System_(Canada)

[GabriolaGirl]

I'm no supporter of the current Malahat by any means, but doesn't this make very good sense for somebody living on Gabriola anyway?

 

Why would you drive 220 clicks (110 each way) when you could drive 50 clicks (25 each way), and sit back enjoying a coffee for a large part of the trip

I guess it really comes down to ferry fares vs. cost of gas ... but personally even if the ferry was a bit more $$, I'd take the ferry trip to Vancouver option over the driving 220 clicks on one of the worst roads in B.C. (if not Canada).

 

It doesn't just come down to ferry fares vs cost of gas, as the ferry costs me nothing, it is covered by a TAP form.  It would make more sense to be treated in Victoria for several reasons, 

 

1) I have to stay over at least one night going to Vancouver, it's 6 hours minimum each way.  I cannot get to an appt in time or home in one day.  This may not sound like a big thing to you, but when you're not feeling well, sleeping in your own bed is huge.  Victoria is usually doable in a day unless there's a problem on the Malahat.  

 

2)  Fighting with BCF to stay in the car so requesting to be on the upper deck if I'm feeling crappy & don't want to be upstairs with all the germy people when my counts are low.  

 

3)  My chart is now divided between 2 health authorities & I have to fight with them every once in a while to get my records to my GP on Gabriola as the 2 health authorities have different computer systems that don't talk to each other.

 

Mine is just one story of lots out there for reasons why there needs to be a better or improved route.  And yes, I have told my story to my MLA.  

[exc911ence]

the problem is that they need to be seen as “progressive” or they want to be. building or expanding car roads does not fit that desire. talking about ferries (Colwood Mayor) and rail (everyone) is more fun.

 

No, but the person that does eventually take the initiative will forever be remembered as a hero by the people... isn't that worth more than short-term image building?

 

Our politicians need to focus on the big picture and forget about today's selfie.

[LJ]

Where's Flying Phil when you need him?

[On the Level]

Well Ben and the Mayor consistently remind us now that the vast majority do support them which is why they were re-elected.

 

The vast majority in the CoV do not vote.  Ben and Lisa happen to fit in with a group that feels so passionate about their cause that they do organize and vote, but it has nothing to do with the "vast majority".  

 

How many that live in the core go beyond their small neighbourhoods?  Of course some do, but you have a higher percentage that live in a little downtown bubble and are either oblivious or don't care what others are dealing with.  They don't need the Malihat themselves, so other families can GTH.   It is this group that gets them elected.