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2020 City of Victoria By-Election | April 4, 2020


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#941 Awaiting Juno

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Posted 23 March 2020 - 12:46 PM

Rachel Montgomery has "suspended her campaign" on the basis that she "can't work and campaign at the same time".

She has apparently returned to nursing during this health crisis out of the goodness of her heart.

She's made it clear that she's not withdrawing - she's just suspending her campaign.

She got a heck of a lot of very positive press due to the fact that she made the public statement in as grand a way as possible.

 

The bit about not being able to work and campaign at the same time - is that some sort of municipal legislation, or is it just Montgomery saying she feels that she can't do both effectively?

 

I must admit, if it's the later, and even though she's getting nothing but congratulations and kudos on her Facebook page, it really does seem like she's pandering.

I'd be interested in knowing if she actually has gone back to nursing, or if the entire press package was intended more just to attempt to separate her from the rest of the candidates with some feel good PR?

 

I get that my question might be too brusk, extremely rude even - but I'm afraid that my natural suspicions in "sudden political shifts" like this always take the fore, and I assume something is being done for publicity or personal gain long before I would ever assume something was being done out of the goodness of somebody's heart.

 

If she's going to the frontlines - those are going to be very long days under very trying conditions.  I have no doubt that Rachel was well aware of that and I've got nothing but respect for the decision she's making to put the needs of people who might wind up needing healthcare in the weeks to come.  With respect to the homeless and tents - I don't think that'll be the ultimate solution, because I don't think it'll comply with what is needed in terms of social distancing and access to adequate facilities for hygiene.  I would not be surprised if a school or schools wound up being used for that person with additional manpower called to supervise the inhabitants.  I expect the rules we're all going to have to obey are going to be pretty strict - including the rules for the homeless.  Our Victoria is likely to be very different by the time we're through, and I imagine much of what we've argued over or debated in the past will be seen as being extremely petty and minor.


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#942 Bernard

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Posted 23 March 2020 - 12:59 PM

I think she sent a strong message that we should take this seriously.  Meanwhile I know of at least three candidates that still have their signs up......   People are going to notice that and think badly of the candidates.



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Posted 23 March 2020 - 01:24 PM

 

Meanwhile I know of at least three candidates that still have their signs up......   People are going to notice that and think badly of the candidates

Or people may think these candidates are self-isolating, and/or taking care of their physical and mental well-being. Taking down election signs may simply not be a priority at this time.


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#944 Mike K.

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Posted 23 March 2020 - 03:36 PM

I got a by-election pamphlet in the mail. I guess they've been circulating still despite the by-election cancellation.


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#945 Bernard

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Posted 24 March 2020 - 09:52 AM

I do not see how still sending out something about the by-election will help any candidate.



#946 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 24 March 2020 - 11:20 AM

if it came by mail it might have been sent into the canada post system a week ago.  and could not be stopped.



#947 Mike K.

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Posted 24 March 2020 - 11:34 AM

Yup, that’s my thinking. It was from the CoV not a candidate.

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#948 Stephen Andrew

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Posted 24 March 2020 - 11:37 AM

Hi. Weighing in because I think there are a few things missing here.

1. We were instructed to take signs down in four days following the cancellation. I should point out that 4 day timeframe is in a normal situation not hampered by health restrictions and at least one of our team not feeling well . We distributed 500 signs and it took several days to complete. I know my team and I worked diligently to do this. If you see any signs we missed please email us at signs@stephenandrew.ca and we will work fo grab them.

2. As far as my campaign goes - there should be no handouts distributed. If you receive anything please let me know and I will look into it.

It is possible other campaigns are distributing material via pre-arranged contracts with Canada Post. I personally would cut them some slack. It can be a slow moving process to cancel the process.

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#949 Mike K.

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Posted 24 March 2020 - 11:38 AM

Andrew, your crews should spend more time in Vic West as there are still signs out and about that I saw while driving through yesterday. Catherine Street for sure and I think a few more but unfortunately I can’t give you better coordinates. Bored kids are helping them disappear too, I’m sure :)
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#950 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 24 March 2020 - 11:42 AM

1. We were instructed to take signs down in four days following the cancellation. I should point out that 4 day timeframe is in a normal situation not hampered by health restrictions and at least one of our team not feeling well . We distributed 500 signs and it took several days to complete. I know my team and I worked diligently to do this. If you see any signs we missed please email us at signs@stephenandrew.ca and we will work fo grab them.

 

 

and to be fair.  some that people say they are planting at X get installed at Y.  so it's hard to find all 500 perfectly.



#951 Awaiting Juno

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Posted 02 May 2020 - 08:07 AM

Any word on when this will resume? We can't wait two years before we fill the vacancy, so how do we run a covid compliant by-election?



#952 Nparker

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Posted 02 May 2020 - 08:15 AM

Any word on when this will resume? We can't wait two years before we fill the vacancy, so how do we run a covid compliant by-election?

I suspect Council has never been in a hurry to fill the vacancy. Taking advantage of the current crisis gives them an opportunity to forestall any possible shift in the existing power structure. I don't see a new date for the by-election any time before the fall.


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#953 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 02 May 2020 - 08:44 AM

Any word on when this will resume? We can't wait two years before we fill the vacancy, so how do we run a covid compliant by-election?

 

the province can just amend the legislation to allow any length of wait they want.



#954 Stephen Andrew

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Posted 02 May 2020 - 08:48 AM

To be honest folks, do you think the public really is focussed on a Byelection at present.

Obviously I care and so do supporters, but is there an appetite for local political engagement outside our bubble?

Curious what you think.
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#955 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 02 May 2020 - 08:52 AM

the province can just amend the legislation to allow any length of wait they want.

 

i suggested earlier that councils of 9 should be allowed to run with 8 until next election just in general.


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#956 Mike K.

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Posted 02 May 2020 - 09:00 AM

Not particularly, no. The balance of power won’t change here regardless. Jobs are more top of mind now.

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#957 Nparker

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Posted 02 May 2020 - 09:03 AM

i suggested earlier that councils of 9 should be allowed to run with 8 until next election just in general.

Perhaps if those who leave their position for another elected office without serving their full term were responsible for the costs of the by-election we wouldn't have to worry about this situation.


Edited by Nparker, 02 May 2020 - 09:10 AM.

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#958 Nparker

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Posted 02 May 2020 - 09:06 AM

...is there an appetite for local political engagement outside our bubble?...

 

Not particularly, no...

I don't think there's ever a wrong time to be politically engaged, especially when we have local politicians using the current crisis to advance their personal agenda.


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#959 Awaiting Juno

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Posted 02 May 2020 - 09:13 AM

Having a plan to make it happen is wise.  The current situation could well continue for upwards of 24 months.  Decisions still need to be made, and we need people at the table (even if it's a virtual table).  While a traditional election is likely not in the cards - one that relies upon the media to advance positions (rather than glad handing and door knocking) would likely be COVID compliant.  The conversation needs to continue, because, as NParker points out, the crisis is being used in ways it shouldn't.  A democracy exists, not only in times of peace and good health, but critically in times of crisis when good decisions become more important, not less.


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#960 lanforod

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Posted 02 May 2020 - 09:35 AM

Zoom town halls and debates, vote by mail and online. Do it.
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