Replace CTJ and Alto with more TV recruits? Are you willing to take that gamble?
Does it matter if there are 5 or 8 TV or TV-light councillors? They still control every vote.
Posted 30 July 2020 - 01:39 PM
Replace CTJ and Alto with more TV recruits? Are you willing to take that gamble?
Does it matter if there are 5 or 8 TV or TV-light councillors? They still control every vote.
Posted 30 July 2020 - 01:42 PM
If Geoghegan had not made the accusation he did, would he have landed more votes? Less?
Far too many unknowns there, but had we only had two candidates vs Helps I feel the race would have been very, very close for Hammond.
Hammond would have done better. Baseless slander from Big Mike got a lot of attention and 100% it hurt Hammond and his slate.
Posted 30 July 2020 - 02:23 PM
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Posted 30 July 2020 - 02:29 PM
Loveday and Dubow would also need to go.Replace CTJ and Alto with more TV recruits? Are you willing to take that gamble?
Posted 30 July 2020 - 02:33 PM
Loveday and Dubow would also need to go...
You've forgotten Sarah Potts - an easy thing to do as she has proven herself to be spectacularly unspectacular since her October 2018 election. Even for a TV member she's lacklustre.
Posted 30 July 2020 - 05:22 PM
Replace CTJ and Alto with more TV recruits? Are you willing to take that gamble?
Posted 30 July 2020 - 05:24 PM
Loveday and Dubow would also need to go.
CTJ and Alto have proven to be nothing but sicophants to the TV crew and Helps/Isitt in the last council so no loss there.
Posted 30 July 2020 - 07:36 PM
A petition calling on the non-resident councillors to step down might be more sensible. Lisa lives in Victoria and as much as it pains me that she is mayor (because I think she is doing a lousy job), she was elected so unless there is some over-riding reason why she is not fit for that office (ie. the election was tampered with in unfair ways, she has acted in ways incompatible with her role, etc.) - we are stuck until the next election with her.
Posted 30 July 2020 - 07:47 PM
TV needs to be probed to outline it's goals. Is it just a hack for the "just out of High School" crowd supporting a decades long UVIC experiment gone bad?
Posted 31 July 2020 - 12:25 AM
Hammond would have done better. Baseless slander from Big Mike got a lot of attention and 100% it hurt Hammond and his slate.
If everyone else had dropped off the ballot leaving only a choice between Helps and Geoghegan I'd have voted for Helps - which should about tell you what I think of Ol' Mikey...
Posted 31 July 2020 - 01:42 PM
We need adults at the table who can promote good governance and work with those in the community to move the city forward. This group of people need to take some cues from TV and have a clear set of goals and objectives with things that they plan to achieve. Ideally, this would also help market the group to the electorate. I sense a good chunk of those unaware of what Together Victoria was really about were well intentioned people who didn't want to just "vote against Helps". I think many didn't know how strong the link was between Ben Isitt and Together Victoria - and really didn't know enough about who they were voting for. They knew and liked the "brand" and voted accordingly. It was marketing - meanwhile, New Council seemed to take much of it's marketing cues from "no name" brand and as a result failed to sway some low information voters. They got painted as "angry people who weren't "progressive"" and then had the vote split.
With respect to this byelection - I think we need to hear more from those intending to run, if they still intend on running. So far, Stephen Andrew has a lead in that regard. I've heard crickets from the others.
Posted 31 July 2020 - 10:27 PM
We need adults at the table who can promote good governance and work with those in the community to move the city forward. This group of people need to take some cues from TV and have a clear set of goals and objectives with things that they plan to achieve. Ideally, this would also help market the group to the electorate. I sense a good chunk of those unaware of what Together Victoria was really about were well intentioned people who didn't want to just "vote against Helps". I think many didn't know how strong the link was between Ben Isitt and Together Victoria - and really didn't know enough about who they were voting for. They knew and liked the "brand" and voted accordingly. It was marketing - meanwhile, New Council seemed to take much of it's marketing cues from "no name" brand and as a result failed to sway some low information voters. They got painted as "angry people who weren't "progressive"" and then had the vote split.
With respect to this byelection - I think we need to hear more from those intending to run, if they still intend on running. So far, Stephen Andrew has a lead in that regard. I've heard crickets from the others.
A common complaint with New Council's campaign was that they weren't able to dedicate as much time hitting the pavement as the TV slate. To which many retorted "why of course, who could compete with student-activists?".
Boots on the ground also sways people who are normally uninterested or disengaged, so that can't go ignored.
Posted 02 August 2020 - 10:10 PM
If everyone else had dropped off the ballot leaving only a choice between Helps and Geoghegan I'd have voted for Helps - which should about tell you what I think of Ol' Mikey...
Posted 03 August 2020 - 07:46 AM
I do kind of wish that the clear non-TV candidates would convene a meeting amongst themselves to consolidate resources with a couple of them bowing out to the one who they feel has the best odds of actually being elected to the empty seat. Maybe there could be a neutral ground poll taken with their names and whoever gets the most votes in that poll is selected as the runner? I really worry that a consolidated TV candidate versus a diluted range of candidates is going to mean we'll get more of the same at the council table.
Posted 03 August 2020 - 07:58 AM
The problem is, nobody would be willing to make that sacrifice. And polling is expensive. No candidate in their right mind would spend money on a poll for the purpose of knocking themselves out of the race. No one that's come this far is giving up.
Posted 03 August 2020 - 09:41 AM
Posted 06 August 2020 - 09:53 AM
I do kind of wish that the clear non-TV candidates would convene a meeting amongst themselves to consolidate resources with a couple of them bowing out to the one who they feel has the best odds of actually being elected to the empty seat.
I am glad to see that the 2018 New Council candidates aren't all running against eachother. Maybe such a meeting did take place? Early on I thought for sure Marg Gardner and Andrew Reeve would run in this byelection.
Rachel Montgomery and Jeremy Caradonna are the only other real contenders aside from Stephen Andrews and Caradonna doesn't have what it takes to cross the finish line, still unsure about Montgomery. But looking at her platform and campaign style Montgomery looks like she'd steal more votes from TV than Stephen.
Posted 06 August 2020 - 10:02 AM
So, of the batch of candidates who officially declared earlier this year, who do you think will decline to run?
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