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#7481 Greg

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Posted 27 July 2020 - 12:24 PM

The election is this year. And 2 years isn’t Really long term testing either, what about cancer? Birth defects? Fertility? Mutagenic effects?

 

The vaccine space isn't de novo research. I'm not sure there's any basis for concern over vaccine-induced cancer for example.  (On the other hand, issues associated with immune responses, like antibody-dependent enhancement (ADE) which could cause people to more susceptible to the virus would be a risk. That would be bad news. I don't think it will require particularly long-term testing to tease that out though.)

 

The real risk is backlash against vaccines that will inevitably follow a mass vaccination. Assume COVID-19 is still ravaging the US this winter and a vaccine becomes widely available. There would likely be tens of millions of people dosed with the vaccine in a matter of a few months. And some of them will die from weird causes.  (Because when you look at data for tens of millions of people, there will be many who die from weird things.) And there will be plenty of people who can't grasp that correlation doesn't equal causality, and Facebook will go wild with posts about the COVID-19 vaccine causing Acquired von Willebrand syndrome or Klippel-Trenaunay syndrome or some other nonsense. That's sure to be fun.


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#7482 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 27 July 2020 - 12:28 PM

yes that’s probably all true.

#7483 Rob Randall

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Posted 27 July 2020 - 03:02 PM

Another lengthy and harrowing thread by a young healthy sufferer. Read at your own risk.

 

https://twitter.com/...525539859910657

"I just crossed the 4 month mark of being sick w' #COVID19. I am young, & I was healthy. Dying is not the only thing to worry about. I still have a near-daily fever, loss of cognitive function, essential tremors, GI issues, severe headaches, heartrate of 150+, viral arthritis, heart palpitations, muscle aches, a feeling like my body has forgotten to breathe. Over the past 124 days I've lost all feeling in my arms & hands, had extreme back/kidney/rib pain, phantom smells (like someone BBQing bad meat), tinnitus, difficulty understanding text/reading, difficulty following conversations, sensitivity to noise & light, nonstop bruising. *Thinking* can cause headaches now. I'm not alone in the cognitive issues; it's as common a symptom as cough.

No one knows when #longcovid patients aren't contagious; many are alone for months."

 



#7484 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 27 July 2020 - 03:44 PM

there is a bit of spook science in there.  patient likely has other serious issues that may or may not have been triggered by COVID or more likely is just coincidental.

 

https://www.the-scie...me-people-67749



#7485 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 27 July 2020 - 04:03 PM

what's the story with the UK here.

 

that's a lot of death for so few cases.  compare it to the USA.

 


Edited by Victoria Watcher, 27 July 2020 - 04:03 PM.


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Posted 27 July 2020 - 04:43 PM

Another lengthy and harrowing thread by a young healthy sufferer. Read at your own risk.

https://twitter.com/...525539859910657


This is bs but I believe it.

#7487 RFS

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Posted 27 July 2020 - 04:44 PM

That whole twitter thread sounds pretty fake tbh. Daily fever for 4 months, new symptoms every day, new allergies, multiple people all reporting the same vivid, nightmarish dreams? Idk

#7488 exc911ence

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Posted 27 July 2020 - 05:53 PM

BC vigilantes? And here I thought we were polite....

 

https://www.youtube....h?v=dot_4HcwVuo



#7489 exc911ence

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Posted 27 July 2020 - 05:56 PM

BILL GATES TELLS VIEWERS TO IGNORE LIFE THREATENING SIDE EFFECTS OF HIS NEW CORONA* VACCINE

 

https://www.bitchute...o/mWOtr6dtbfh1/

 

"Yeah but some of that is not dramatic... ... just super painful." - Bill Gates

 

 

Only super painful? Where do I get in line?  :blink:



#7490 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 27 July 2020 - 06:01 PM

BC vigilantes? And here I thought we were polite....

 

https://www.youtube....h?v=dot_4HcwVuo

 

the whole thing is rubbish.

 

almost no americans are infected (only 0.6%).  and only slightly less canadians are infected.


Edited by Victoria Watcher, 27 July 2020 - 06:05 PM.


#7491 exc911ence

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Posted 27 July 2020 - 06:18 PM

the whole thing is rubbish.

 

almost no americans are infected (only 0.6%).  and only slightly less canadians are infected.

 

Yes but the Facebook generation gets to virtue-signal to the world about it. That's the important part.


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#7492 exc911ence

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Posted 27 July 2020 - 06:44 PM

Cell phone recording, indignation armed... ready to signal virtue. (NSFW: Language)

 

https://www.bitchute...o/HbvCzw0IToWE/

 

 

 

 

 

Save the public shaming for the pedophiles and politicians, Karen...  :rolleyes:



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Posted 28 July 2020 - 05:50 AM

The government of a Caribbean island has a tantalizing suggestion for quarantine-weary Canadians: Working from home is a lot more palatable when you're doing it remotely from a tropical paradise.

The Island nation of Barbados has launched something it's calling a Barbados Welcome Stamp, a one-year working visa that gives foreigners the right to live and work in Barbados while they ride out the COVID-19 pandemic.

 

Starting now, applicants can send in their personal information at a portal website. The application will be processed within 72 hours, at which point they may be approved to come live and work in Barbados.

There's a non-refundable fee of $2,000 US for an individual and $3,000 US for families, but once that's paid, a successful applicant is all set.

 

https://www.cbc.ca/n...id-19-1.5664283



#7494 amor de cosmos

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Posted 28 July 2020 - 07:37 AM

Scientists have identified an alternative amplification technique to detect the genetic material of SARS-CoV-2, that causes COVID-19, which could offer a way to rapidly test large number of people for the disease.

However, the researchers from Heidelberg University in Germany noted that the technique is not as sensitive as quantitative RT-PCR, the current standard method for COVID-19 testing.

Faster and less complicated testing could aid in the rapid isolation of infected people and help to identify and prevent new outbreaks of the disease until a vaccine becomes available, they said.

The researchers noted that quantitative RT-PCR can successfully detect viral RNA but requires expensive machinery and chemical reagents that can sometimes be in short supply.

The standard method also depends on time-consuming temperature cycling steps to amplify enough RNA from a patient sample for detection, resulting in a processing time between three and 24 hours in most clinical laboratories, they said.

In the journal Science Translational Medicine, the researchers propose using a technique called reverse transcription loop-mediated isothermal amplification (RT-LAMP), which can be carried out at a constant temperature using simple equipment and a different set of reagents.

https://www.financia...ntists/2037574/
https://www.eurekale...t-aat072720.php
 

By reconstructing the evolutionary history of SARS-CoV-2, the virus that is responsible for the COVID-19 pandemic, an international research team of Chinese, European, and U.S. scientists has discovered that the lineage that gave rise to the virus has been circulating in bats for decades and likely includes other viruses with the ability to infect humans. The findings, which University of Glasgow scientists contributed to, have implications for the prevention of future pandemics stemming from this lineage.

"Coronaviruses have genetic material that is highly recombinant, meaning different regions of the virus's genome can be derived from multiple sources," said Maciej Boni, associate professor of biology, Penn State. "This has made it difficult to reconstruct SARS-CoV-2's origins. You have to identify all the regions that have been recombining and trace their histories. To do that, we put together a diverse team with expertise in recombination, phylogenetic dating, virus sampling, and molecular and viral evolution."

The team used three different bioinformatic approaches to identify and remove the recombinant regions within the SARS-CoV-2 genome. Next, they reconstructed phylogenetic histories for the non-recombinant regions and compared them to each other to see which specific viruses have been involved in recombination events in the past. They were able to reconstruct the evolutionary relationships between SARS-CoV-2 and its closest known bat and pangolin viruses. Their findings appear today in Nature Microbiology.

The researchers found that the lineage of viruses to which SARS-CoV-2 belongs diverged from other bat viruses about 40-70 years ago. Importantly, although SARS-CoV-2 is genetically similar (about 96%) to the RaTG13 coronavirus, which was sampled from a Rhinolophus affinis horseshoe bat in 2013 in Yunnan province, China, the team found that it diverged from RaTG13 a relatively long time ago, in 1969.

https://phys.org/new...-sars-cov-.html
https://www.nature.c...1564-020-0771-4
 

MONDAY, July 27, 2020 (HealthDay News) -- The COVID-19 pandemic has prompted a massive scientific response to the crisis, with more than 1,500 coronavirus studies kicking off between March and mid-May of this year, a new study reports.

Unfortunately, much of this research has sown only confusion, producing precious little scientific evidence of sufficient quality to dramatically improve any understanding of COVID-19, researchers argue.

Only about three in 10 COVID-19 studies have been designed with enough rigor to produce valuable evidence about the coronavirus, said lead researcher Dr. Mintu Turakhia, director of the Center for Digital Health at Stanford University in California.

"There's been an extraordinary activation of clinical research around COVID, and that's great," Turakhia said. "The problem is, the majority of these studies are not likely to yield really strong evidence."

Only 75 out of 664 clinical trials for COVID-19 -- about 11% -- have all the hallmarks of a scientific study that could be expected to produce solid results, according to the study published online July 27 in JAMA Internal Medicine.

https://www.webmd.co...ble-experts-say

One Third of Outpatients With COVID-19 Are Unwell Weeks Later
https://www.webmd.co...ell-weeks-later
 
In a new study in Cell Discovery, Chen-Yu Zhang's group at Nanjing University and two other groups from Wuhan Institute of Virology and the Second Hospital of Nanjing present a novel finding that absorbed miRNA MIR2911 in honeysuckle decoction (HD) can directly target SARS-CoV-2 genes and inhibit viral replication. Drinking of HD accelerate the negative conversion of COVID-19 patients.
https://www.eurekale...o-apa072720.php
 

Reversing a three-year decline, the number of people covered by Medicaid nationwide rose markedly this spring as the impact of the recession caused by the outbreak of COVID-19 began to take hold.

Yet, the growth in participation in the state-federal health insurance program for low-income people was less than many analysts predicted. One possible factor tempering enrollment: People with concerns about catching the coronavirus avoided seeking care and figured they didn’t need the coverage.

Program sign-ups are widely expected to accelerate through the summer, reflecting the higher number of unemployed. As people lose their jobs, many often are left without workplace coverage or the money to buy insurance on their own.

https://khn.org/news...aid-enrollment/

In Texas, More People Are Losing Their Health Insurance as COVID Cases Climb
https://khn.org/news...id-cases-climb/
 

In spite of Vietnam’s widely acclaimed success in containing the COVID-19 without a single death, NGOs are warning that the country’s huge wildlife trade, estimated to be worth $1 billion, leaves the door wide open to new viruses and pandemics that could emerge from a nexus of trafficking, wet markets, and wildlife farms.

Huong is calling for strong measures to be taken. “We must expand efforts to stop the illegal wildlife trade that poses a health risk, as well as to close wildlife markets when they threaten human and animal health. We have to prevent this kaleidoscope of pathogens from entering the country.”

The executive order signed by Prime Minister Nguyen Xuan Phuc on July 23 is designed to remedy the poor enforcement of existing wildlife trafficking laws. The directive calls on ministries to revise and update laws to “Stop the import of living or dead wild animals, eggs, larvae, parts and derivatives of wild animals and resolutely eliminate markets and places linked to illegal wildlife trading.”

This far-reaching directive seeks to enlist national security agencies to investigate and stop transnational wildlife syndicates that use Vietnam as a transit hub to traffic wildlife and animal parts, including rhino horns and ivory from Africa, to their final destination in China. The directive orders ministries to revise old legislation but does not replace existing laws.

etc
https://thediplomat....-next-pandemic/
 

The experience of dealing with two previous waves may also be helpful for Vietnam in tackling the newest cases in Da Nang. On the night of March 6, when the 17th case was reported in Hanoi, the city held an urgent meeting, then coordinated with related ministries — including the Ministry of Health, Ministry of Public Security, and Ministry of Transportation — to prevent the virus from spreading to the community. Thanks to this effective coordination, public health measures such as aggressive contact tracing, mandatory quarantine, and sterilization of surfaces were taken immediately, which enabled the government to stop community transmission and lift the large-scale lockdown still common in many Southeast Asian nations at that time.

Recently, when the 416th case was reported — the first case of community spread after 99 days without a local infection – Da Nang’s local government followed the same patterns as Hanoi did before. Directive 16 on social distancing was issued, banning the gathering of more than two people in public places; mass screening and sterilization campaigns were conducted, and the number of people coming in and out of Da Nang was highly restricted. With these stringent actions, Da Nang may be well able to control COVID-19’s community spread, and Vietnam may be able to handle this wave through a local lockdown on vulnerable places like Da Nang and its neighboring provinces, instead of returning to the national scale lockdown of several months ago.

etc
https://thediplomat....19-has-arrived/
 

Like Vietnam and Laos, Cambodia has emerged relatively unscathed from the pandemic when compared with elsewhere. There have been 226 confirmed cases and no deaths from a pandemic that has reached 13 out of 25 provinces and the capital Phnom Penh.

Of those confirmed to have COVID-19, 147 patients have recovered.

Land borders with Vietnam, Laos, and Thailand remain closed. But between June 20 and July 25, 108 cases were detected out of 23,567 passengers arriving from Indonesia and Malaysia, prompting Hun Sen to suspend all flights with both countries.

The suspension was expected to strengthen “health safety for people across the country because from August and September, Cambodia will have many holidays, and people will travel to different tourism destinations,” the government said.

While the numbers are small, the spike is worrying and on paper at least correlates with a nasty increase in COVID-19 cases recorded everywhere from the United States to Australia.

“People should not underestimate Covid-19. This respiratory disease is very serious, highly infectious and there is no cure yet,” the prime minister wrote on his Facebook page.

He has also agreed in principle to eliminate the $3,000 deposit and $50,000 COVID-19 insurance for investors, business people, and experts that is required when entering the country.

etc
https://thediplomat....n-covid-course/
 

TAIPEI: Taiwan on Tuesday (Jul 28) was investigating its first possible local coronavirus infection in more than a month, a Thai man who tested positive last week, as the island also faces a rise in cases brought from overseas.

Taiwan's early response was effective in keeping the pandemic at bay, with just 467 infections and seven deaths. Most of the cases have been imported and have recovered.

Until the Thai man's positive test, the island had not seen a local case of coronavirus infection since Jun 24.

https://www.channeln...-month-12969962

Covid-19 news: This is the "most severe" health crisis ever, says WHO
https://www.newscien...-ever-says-who/
 

Israel’s top court has rejected a petition demanding protection for Palestinian prisoners at Gilboa prison from the threat of the coronavirus - such as social distancing - despite an outbreak of the disease at the detention centre.

Currently, 30 prison guards and seven prisoners are infected with the potentially deadly disease, while 489 guards and 58 prisoners are in quarantine in the northern Israeli prison.

Last Thursday, the Israeli Supreme Court ruled that Palestinian prisoners do not have the right to social distancing as protection against the deadly coronavirus.

https://english.alar...istancing-court
 

U.S. Senate Republicans released their 1-trillion-dollar COVID-19 relief proposal Monday afternoon, which includes a reduction in federal unemployment benefits, another round of 1,200-dollar direct payments to individuals, and liability protection for businesses and schools.

As part of the 2.2-trillion-dollar coronavirus relief bill passed in late March, Congress agreed to provide extra 600-dollar unemployment benefits per week, which are set to expire at the end of this month.

The Senate Republicans' plan would slash extra weekly unemployment benefits from 600 dollars to 200 dollars, which could be a key sticking point in negotiations with Democrats, who have wanted to maintain the level of benefits through January.

The White House and Republicans have contended that the 600-dollar benefits have created a financial disincentive for people to return to work, an argument refuted by some economists, who believe employers were not hiring because businesses were closed by stay-at-home orders or because they lacked demand from customers, and many people are ready to work regardless of how generous unemployment insurance is.

http://www.ecns.cn/n...ei9790206.shtml

Herman Cain Remains Hospitalized For COVID-19 Weeks After Infection
https://talkingpoint...zation-covid-19

Twitter Suspends Donald Trump Jr. for Tweeting COVID-19 Misinformation
https://www.vice.com...-misinformation

As COVID-19 Drives NYers To Drink Outside, The NYPD Is Still Overwhelmingly Ticketing People Of Color
https://gothamist.co...ng-people-color



#7495 todd

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Posted 28 July 2020 - 07:48 AM

Only super painful? Where do I get in line?  :blink:


If it kills 50,000 but saves 100,000 would it not be ethical to push that vaccine through?

#7496 exc911ence

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Posted 28 July 2020 - 08:19 AM

If it kills 50,000 but saves 100,000 would it not be ethical to push that vaccine through?

 

I'm going to say no.


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#7497 Mike K.

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Posted 28 July 2020 - 08:28 AM

Wow, re the Barbados thing. That’s pretty cool.

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Posted 28 July 2020 - 09:26 AM

I'm going to say no.


Oh yeah this is a Canadian forum.

#7499 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 29 July 2020 - 04:02 AM

so the thousands of "experts" and politicians that warned of the second wave were wrong?  this is why nobody trusts anyone on this file.

 

 

 

 

 

 

The Covid-19 pandemic is currently unfolding in “one big wave” with no evidence that it follows seasonal variations common to influenza and other coronaviruses, such as the common cold, the World Health Organization has warned.

Amid continued debates over what constitutes a second wave, a resurgence or seasonal return of the disease, Margaret Harris, a WHO spokesperson, insisted that these discussions are not a helpful way to understand the spread of the disease.

“People are still thinking about seasons. What we all need to get our heads around is this is a new virus and this one is behaving differently,” Harris told a virtual briefing in Geneva, urging vigilance in applying measures to slow transmission that appears to be accelerated by mass gatherings.

She also warned against thinking in terms of virus waves, saying: “It’s going to be one big wave. It’s going to go up and down a bit. The best thing is to flatten it and turn it into just something lapping at your feet.”

 

https://www.theguard...MP=share_btn_tw



#7500 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 29 July 2020 - 04:07 AM

Florida’s death rate is near the middle compared with other states. Florida’s death rate per 100,000 people was 28 as of Tuesday, according to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control’s COVID Data Tracker.

 

The death rate is significantly higher in New York City with 280 deaths per 100,000. California has reported 21 deaths per 100,000, and Texas has had 20 deaths per 100,000. California and Texas are the most populous states, followed by Florida and New York.

 

 

 

https://www.sun-sent...pbvu-story.html

 

 

 

 

canada's death rate is 23.6 per 100,000. 

 

 

https://www.worldome...country/canada/

 

 

 

 


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