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[dasmo]

I would think that most people would if they had a choice.

Then perhaps we should be spending 800 million dollars improving the conditions within them. That's where most of the moralities have occurred. 

[Greg]

I haven't attended one. No MRNA vaccine has ever been approved so every point you make about it is hypothetical. You obviously haven't read a product monogram either. Everything I said is not hypothetical. 

 

Pretty sure you haven't read a product monograph for an mRNA vaccine either, since they are produced as part of the approval process.

[dasmo]

Pretty sure you haven't read a product monograph for an mRNA vaccine either, since they are produced as part of the approval process.

The MRNA vaccines are all experimental so I'm not sure how I could get one. Maybe you can provide a link to one and I'll read it for you. Anyone can look up a existing product monograph on the other hand. You just need to know the product name. 

Edited by dasmo, 14 September 2020 - 02:30 PM.

[Greg]

I haven't attended one. No MRNA vaccine has ever been approved so every point you make about it is hypothetical. You obviously haven't read a product monogram either. Everything I said is not hypothetical. 

 

 

Pretty sure you haven't read a product monograph for an mRNA vaccine either, since they are produced as part of the approval process.

 

You're missing the point. You said I "obviously" I hadn't read a product monogram (sic) for an mRNA vaccine, which I pointed out is clearly the case for both of us, as there wouldn't be any product monographs yet. 

[dasmo]

You're missing the point. You said I "obviously" I hadn't read a product monogram (sic) for an mRNA vaccine, which I pointed out is clearly the case for both of us, as there wouldn't be any product monographs yet. 

No, I said you haven't read ANY product monograph. I wasn't referring to MRNA. Every single vaccine monograph I have read states it hasn't been evaluated for mutagenic, or carcinogenic effects. Thus clarifying that my statement to that effect was not theoretical but simple fact. You are implying that an experimental vaccine somehow will not pose any risks on those fronts and wont need to bother testing for them. 

[LJ]

I'm pretty sure you will be able to buy a vaccine from the states long before we can buy one here.

 

On a completely different matter, for Trump supposedly being a super salesman you would have thought he could have made a fortune selling MAGA and KAGA masks to his supporters. Just think get rich and provide better health protection. And as an added plus all the Dems would refuse to wear a mask.

[Victoria Watcher]

B.C. recorded 317 new cases and six deaths due to COVID-19 over the weekend, provincial health officer Dr. Bonnie Henry said Monday (Sept 14).

 

Broken down by the day, there were 137 new cases reported from Friday to Saturday, 119 cases from Saturday to Sunday and 61 from Sunday to Monday.

 

 

 

 

https://www.vicnews....er-the-weekend/

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 15 September 2020 - 01:38 AM.

[spanky123]

On a completely different matter, for Trump supposedly being a super salesman you would have thought he could have made a fortune selling MAGA and KAGA masks to his supporters. Just think get rich and provide better health protection. And as an added plus all the Dems would refuse to wear a mask.

 

Started selling months ago.

 

https://www.politico...together-289926

Edited by spanky123, 15 September 2020 - 06:25 AM.

[Rob Randall]

Started selling months ago.

 

https://www.politico...together-289926

 

In general, the way things work with celebrity product endorsements is the celebrity should avoid saying the product is stupid and only losers use them. 

[Victoria Watcher]

Cases of the coronavirus have begun to surge in Canada over the last 10 days, as daily new infections for the entire country are now at around 618, compared to about 390 cases a day this time last month.

When it comes to hospitalizations, in September, there have been less than 300 people in hospital across Canada due to COVID-19. The hospitalizations peaked in the second half of April when there were well over 2,000 people in hospital.



https://www.cbc.ca/n...anada-1.5724107

lots of bias in that article.

why use 300 and 2000 above? why not the actual figures?

then the article goes on to say it’s not true that hospitaiuzatins are rare for the young but then shows how only 10% of hoskitalizayins were for under 39.

then it goes on to say the problem is that young people interact with old people. to that I say “why”? who STILL doesn’t know that the elderly are vulnerable?

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 15 September 2020 - 07:25 AM.

[Barrrister]

Our neighbours still insist on visiting the various grand kids risk or no risk. A couple of days ago I saw a guided garden group of seniors over at the LGs and only one out of twenty had a mask and absolutely none of them were more than three feet apart.

 

At this point there is a Darwinian element to the spread.

[dasmo]

Our neighbours still insist on visiting the various grand kids risk or no risk. A couple of days ago I saw a guided garden group of seniors over at the LGs and only one out of twenty had a mask and absolutely none of them were more than three feet apart.

 

At this point there is a Darwinian element to the spread.

Only a mental Darwinian element. 

[amor de cosmos]

near powell river

The Tla'amin Nation has extended a shelter-in-place order until Thursday afternoon as the number of COVID-19 cases within its territory continues to rise.

The order, first enacted last Tuesday, will continue until Sept. 17 at 5 p.m., after cases of COVID-19 in the community surpassed 20 over the weekend.

The order was initially for 72 hours, but was extended Friday after 10 members were diagnosed with the disease.

https://www.cbc.ca/n...kdown-1.5724196
 

Some First Nations in Manitoba are beefing up testing of the novel coronavirus after COVID-19 scares in their communities.

Fisher River, Peguis and Jackhead in Manitoba were among them after three individuals tested positive.

“Stay vigilant, stay safe, stay strong and be respectful,” said Fisher River Chief David Crate.

“We, as a community, will get through this together.”

Crate said the patients were self isolating for 14 days and being monitored by nurses while the community expands testing to get a handle on what are the first cases of COVID-19 in a First Nation in Manitoba.

https://www.aptnnews...ns-in-manitoba/

Canada reports no new COVID-19 deaths for first time in six months
https://medicalxpres...ths-months.html
 

Another factor known to be influential in the progression of lung diseases is our body's microbiota. We carry more than 100 trillion bacteria in our body - outnumbering the number of our own cells. People with obesity and diabetes are thought to suffer from a body-wide dissemination of bacteria and the substances they produce, which in turn causes low-level continuous inflammation in different tissues.

The team considered how host bacteria might influence COVID-19 severity. One potential culprit is the lipopolysaccharides (LPS) that bacteria produce, which have been shown to cooperate with other coronaviruses to induce SARS in pigs. It is possible that these LPS molecules join forces with COVID-19 in humans and trigger a chain of events that causes healthy tissue to transform into scarred tissue - as COVID-19 does in the lungs.

"While all of these potential mechanisms can contribute to the severity of COVID-19, we believe that one of them plays the predominant role, and that this must be present not only in obese and diabetic patients, but also in other groups of increased risk in COVID-19," Scherer explains.

The authors propose that a combined deficiency in ACE2 caused by COVID-19, together with obesity or diabetes, leads to impaired gut barrier function, allowing bacteria and their toxins to leak into the circulation. In the lungs, these bacteria and toxins work with the virus to cause more severe lung injury than either would do alone.

https://www.eurekale...e-cww091520.php

Scientists predict that COVID-19 will become a seasonal virus - but not yet
https://www.eurekale...f-spt090320.php
 

multidisciplinary team of researchers from the University of Liège (Belgium) has detected significant amounts of DNA traps in distinct compartments of the lungs of patients who died from Covid-19. These traps, called NETs, are released massively into the airways, the lung tissue and the blood vessels. Such excessive release could be a major contributor to severe disease complications leading to in-hospital death. These results are published this week in the Journal of Experimental Medicine.

Neutrophils are innate immune cells that act as the immune system's first line of defence. However, when over-activated, they can play a toxic role, as in the case of autoimmune diseases and chronic inflammatory diseases, for example. Neutrophils have the ability to release their own DNA through DNA traps called Neutrophil Extracellular Traps or NETs. When massively released in certain compartments of the lungs, they can cause toxic effects.

"Here, we have detected substantial quantities of NETs in distinct compartments of the lungs of patients who died from Covid-19 at the University Hospital (CHU) of Liège and who exhibited histo-pathological features of diffuse alveolar damage, whereas these DNA traps were absent in the lungs of patients who died from another cause," explains Prof. Thomas Marichal, Welbio and ERC Investigator, head of the Immunophysiology Laboratory at the GIGA Institute of the University of Liège.

https://www.giga.uli...vid-19-patients
https://www.scienced...00914114129.htm
 

COVID-19 has touched almost every country around the world since it emerged months ago. As of September 9, 2020, 27.6 million people have been infected with the SARS-CoV-2 virus, and there have been 898,000 deaths. But, a Dal scientist is hoping that there is a silver lining to this catastrophic pandemic.

Dr. Shashi Gujar, a scientist with the Department of Pathology at Dal, together with partners in France, Demark, Germany, the United States and India, is examining whether the immune response to SARS-CoV-2 could be repurposed as the next generation of cancer immunotherapy.

*snip*

"We've figured out how to trick your coronavirus-specific T cells to think that your cancer is infected by the virus," says Dr. Gujar. "The key is to do this without using the virus or actually causing the real infection."

https://medicalxpres...nse-cancer.html
 

Sticky webs of DNA released from immune cells known as neutrophils may cause much of the tissue damage associated with severe COVID-19 infections, according to two new studies published September 14 in the Journal of Experimental Medicine (JEM). The research, conducted by independent groups in Belgium and Brazil, suggests that blocking the release of these DNA webs could be a new therapeutic target for the management of severe forms of COVID-19.

https://www.eurekale...p-dwm091420.php
 

FRIDAY, Sept. 11, 2020 (HealthDay News) -- COVID-19 can damage the kidneys and increase patients' risk of needing kidney dialysis, researchers report.
 
The study authors also warned that doctors should prepare for a significant rise in chronic kidney disease cases due to the pandemic.
 
For the study, the investigators analyzed data from nearly 4,000 COVID-19 patients, aged 18 and older, hospitalized at the Mount Sinai Health System in New York City between Feb. 27 and May 30, 2020.
 
Acute kidney injury (AKI) occurred in 46% of the patients, and one-fifth of those required dialysis, according to the study published Sept. 3 in the Journal of the American Society of Nephrology.

https://www.webmd.co...toll-on-kidneys

Early research from 23andMe strengthens link between blood types and Covid-19
https://www.statnews...9-genetic-link/
 

Online child sexual exploitation has skyrocketed during the coronavirus pandemic, with millions of people around the world working remotely and many victims trapped in isolation with their abusers.
 
A report published by INTERPOL last week found that a number of convergent factors from COVID-19—including the closure of schools, restrictions on international travel, and an increased amount of time spent online—have created a perfect storm for sexual predators.

The report’s authors cited an increase in the amount of child exploitation materials being shared via peer-to-peer networks, particularly on the darknet, as well as an increase in self-generated materials—nude selfies, for example—being distributed on the clear net. Restrictions on movement and more time spent at home has fed an increase in demand, they note, while economic hardships and opportunities for abuse has fed an increase in supply.

https://www.vice.com...round-the-world

The majority of deaths due to COVID-19 in Damascus, Syria are not reported according to a new report by the Imperial College COVID-19 Response Team.
The researchers estimate that only 1.25% of deaths (sensitivity range 1%-3%) due to COVID-19 are reported in Damascus.
https://medicalxpres...scus-syria.html

China says Covid-19 vaccine could be ready for public by November
https://medicalxpres...y-november.html

Hong Kong on Monday evening completed its mass COVID-19 screening program launched two weeks ago, with the participation of some 1.78 million residents in total.
http://www.ecns.cn/n...iy4584607.shtml
 

Hundreds of mainland nucleic acid testing professionals are conducting large-scale testing for COVID-19 at Hong Kong's Fire Eye Laboratory at Sun Yat Sen Memorial Park Sports Center. The effort falls under the Hong Kong Special Administrative Region (HKSAR) government's Universal Community Testing Program (UCT Program) launched on September 1.

The UCT Program is set to conclude on Monday. As of Saturday, a total of 1.66 million people, or 22.2 percent of Hong Kong residents, have been sampled, with 32 positive cases found.

The Hong Kong local government urged residents, especially foreign domestic workers and students, who have not yet participated in the universal test to not miss the opportunity before the program ends on Monday.

In Chinese folklore, the piercing fire eyes enable Monkey King to see through all disguises of monsters.

The Fire Eye labs developed by BGI, taking the name, have been used worldwide for large-scale nucleic acid testing without manual intervention, according to the Xinhua News Agency.

http://www.globaltim...t/1200721.shtml

in israel

Another record set on Monday was the number of tests conducted in a day – 47,509 – of which 10 percent were positive. The number of seriously ill has risen to 533 with a declining number 140 on ventilators. The six-month death toll stands at 1,141. As for the lockdown that goes into effect on Friday afternoon, the Mayor Jerusalem announced that the coronavirus director Prof. Yossi Gamzu had agreed to leave the Mahane Yehuda open air market open, like the supermarkets.

https://www.debka.co...es-in-24-hours/

Belarus joins final phase of Russian COVID-19 vaccine trials
https://tass.com/society/1200589

Emails Show the Meatpacking Industry Drafted an Executive Order to Keep Plants Open
Hundreds of emails offer a rare look at the meat industry’s influence and access to the highest levels of government. The draft was submitted a week before Trump’s executive order, which bore striking similarities.
https://www.propubli...eep-plants-open

[dasmo]

‘Face-to-face contact is like a vaccine’
Psychologist Susan Pinker states that direct person-to-person contact triggers parts of our nervous system that release a “cocktail” of neurotransmitters tasked with regulating our response to stress and anxiety. In other words, when we communicate with people face-to-face, it could help to make us more resilient to stress factors in the long run. 

https://www.medicaln...ealthful-habits

 

 

Yet research shows that physical affection has measurable health benefits. “Stimulating touch receptors under the skin can lower blood pressure and cortisol levels, effectively reducing stress,” Hertenstein says. One study from the University of North Carolina found that women who hugged their spouse or partner frequently (even for just 20 seconds) had lower blood pressure, possibly because a warm embrace increases oxytocin levels in the brain. Over time, lower blood pressure may decrease a person’s risk for heart disease.

https://www.huffpost...ealth_n_3253987

 

Research shows these main benefits of having an active social life:

You may live longer. People with more social support tend to live longer than those who are more isolated, and this is true even after accounting for your overall level of health.
You will enjoy better physical health. Social engagement is associated with a stronger immune system, especially for older adults. This means that you are better able to fight off colds, the flu, and even some types of cancer.
You will enjoy better mental health. Interacting with others boosts feelings of well-being and decreases feelings of depression. Research has shown that one sure way of improving your mood is to work on building social connections.
You may even lower your risk of dementia. More recently, there has been accumulating evidence that socializing is good for your brain health. People who connect with others generally perform better on tests of memory and other cognitive skills. And, in the long run, people with active social lives are less likely to develop dementia than those who are more socially isolated.

https://www.psycholo...its-socializing

 

These results offer some of the strongest evidence to date that positive emotions can enhance physical health, but they suggest that simply experiencing positive emotions on their own isn’t necessarily enough. Instead, the key factor is the effect positive emotions have on our sense of connection to others. This study is the first to show how social connectedness provides the important link between positive emotions and better health.

https://greatergood....rove_our_health

[dasmo]

French researchers suggest nicotine could protect against coronavirus

Researchers studying Covid-19 patients in the Paris public hospital network have found evidence that smokers could be better protected from the virus than others, though they warn that smoking can aggravate symptoms for those who do contract the illness.

[dasmo]

Smoking leads to disease and disability and harms nearly every organ of the body.

 

More than 16 million Americans are living with a disease caused by smoking.

For every person who dies because of smoking, at least 30 people live with a serious smoking-related illness.

Smoking causes cancer, heart disease, stroke, lung diseases, diabetes, and chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD), which includes emphysema and chronic bronchitis.

Smoking also increases risk for tuberculosis, certain eye diseases, and problems of the immune system, including rheumatoid arthritis.

Smoking is a known cause of erectile dysfunction in males.

Smoking is the leading cause of preventable death.

[VIResident]

So stay out of long term care homes.... 

People who tested positive for COVID-19 were twice as likely to have dined at a restaurant: CDC study

 

Researchers found similar rates in case- and control-patients when it came to shopping, going to a salon or gym, and attending in-home gatherings or religious services

Author of the article:

Laura Brehaut

Publishing date:

Sep 15, 2020  •  Last Updated 41 minutes ago  •  3 minute read

National Post

https://nationalpost...5-5c91bc9ae818/

 

People who tested positive for COVID-19 were roughly twice as likely to have dined at a restaurant than those who tested negative for the disease, a new study from the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) suggests.

The study included data on 314 adults who took COVID-19 tests after experiencing symptoms in July — 154 “case-patients,” who tested positive; and 160 “control-patients,” who tested negative. Health care professionals conducted the tests at 11 facilities in 10 U.S. states: California, Colorado, Maryland, Massachusetts, Minnesota, North Carolina, Ohio, Tennessee, Utah and Washington.

Edited by VIResident, 15 September 2020 - 01:18 PM.

[Victoria Watcher]

Researchers found similar rates in case- and control-patients when it came to shopping, going to a salon or gym, and attending in-home gatherings or religious services

 

 

 

maybe people that interact with other people are more likely to get it?  isn't that obvious?

[Victoria Watcher]

With a sudden spike in cases prompting more people to get tested, Canadians are coping with hours-long lineups at COVID-19 testing centres across the country — and some medical experts are calling on Health Canada to approve new devices to deliver faster results.

 

Concerned parents and their children faced four-hour waits at Ottawa's primary testing facility on Monday. A similar scene greeted those looking for a test on Tuesday. At Toronto's William Osler drive-thru testing centre, residents were kept waiting for more than three hours.

 

 

https://www.cbc.ca/n...ssure-1.5725012

 

 

why the heck would you have people lining up?  what are we in - 1911?  

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 15 September 2020 - 02:18 PM.

[dasmo]

More people are testing positive for corona-virus! So more people are getting tested! so more people are testing positive! This is the foundation of Act II right here. If you aren't sick don't get tested.