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#18001 Barrrister

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Posted 10 October 2021 - 08:32 AM

Any chance we get back to Covid some time soon. 


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#18002 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 10 October 2021 - 08:36 AM

It was an article about covid vaccine mandates were were discussing.

 

anyway only about 1,200 new cases total in all of quebec and ontario today.  seems to have stalled out a bit.


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Posted 10 October 2021 - 08:41 AM

Concentration camp absolutely is a colloquial reference to Nazi labour and death camps.

I don't think I implied that the phrase didn't also include Nazi camps.

 

But I absolutely did note that it was historically used worldwide:

 

"Killing in Cambodia developed on an industrial scale. At the centre of these murders was the concentration camp at Tuol Sleng, also known as S-21."

https://www.hmd.org....a/the-genocide/



#18004 Mike K.

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Posted 10 October 2021 - 09:19 AM

You must be the guy who tells his friends he's VRBO'd a vacation rental.  :banana:


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Posted 10 October 2021 - 09:42 AM

description of biden's america? (sorry about the typos, it's not me it's the OCR)
 

In the autumn of 1942 came the massacre of the LUBLIN transports which caused great unrest in the camp. One of the sanitary service attendants refused to administer injections, stating that he was an SS man and not a murderer of children. Another attendant had to be summoned to carry out the job. This affair caused a lot of talk and stir as at least 15,000 to 20,000 people lost their lived and even BERLIN asked for an explanation of the high mortality rate in the hospital. The head-doctor, WIRTZ, disclaimed all knowledge of such events and laid the blame on the camp doctor whose name was EN TEES T, a German from the P0SEN district. A mock inquiry was held at which witnesses from the hospital administration had to testify and the lists of the "deceased" were checked. As "punishment 11 the camp doctor was simply transferred in the same capacity to the "BUNA*". As a result of all this, murdering by means of injections stopped for a while, although it was resumed on a smaller scale soon afterwards for hopelessly sick cases. Many of those condemned to the "syringe" were used as experimental material in the "Hygiene Institute" (Block 10). The injections doubtlessly frightened the prisoners from asking to be admit ted to the hospital %

Another major danger in the camp was "delousing," as it was euphemistically called. The whole camp obviously was qovered with lice and fleas and large disinfection programs were carried out. However, the results were never apparent and our "washing" always came back almost as full of lice. Actually, the "delousing" was designed to combat typhus epidemics which had become a real plague at the camp. During these actions everybody was examined and those with bad complexions or in weakened bodily condition were, according to the camp doctor's mood, destined to be gassed* They were simply led to the "infirmary" from where 4,0 to 50 percent were "evacuated," A "delousing" action which took a particularly large toll in victims was conducted in July, 1942* During the course of this "purge" the weak, those ill with typhus or in post-typhus quarantine, were all sent to BflZINSKI without exception. This method was considered the most radical for eliminating typhus. The way in which those condemned to the gas chambers were* transferred to their doom was exceptionally brutal and inhuman. " Serious cases from the surgical ward who still had their bandages on, and a procession of exhausted and horribly emaciated patients, even convalescents on the road to recovery, were loaded on to trucks. They were all naked and the spectacle was dreadful in the extreme « The trucks pulled up at the entrance of the block and the unfortunate victims were simply thrown or piled on by the attendants (I frequently witnessed such tragic transports). A hundred people were often jammed into a small truck. They all knew exactly what their fate was to be* The large majority remained completely apathetic while others, mostly patients from the surgery with bloody and gaping wounds or frightful sores, struggled frantically. All around the trucks SS tnen milled about like madmen, beating back the howling crowd trying to lean out. Every time it was a terrible experience to have to drag our friends to the truck. Most of them were quiet and bid us farewell, but never forgot to remind us: "Do not forget revenge." Under such conditions men^ hearts turn to stone. Imagine a prisoner's killing his brother in one of the wards so as to avoid his having to undergo the dreadful trip by truck. (I happen to know the names and inmatriculation numbers of these two particular prisoners). It can well be imagined that we just shrugged our shoulders when told the German fairy t&les regarding the KATYN incident.

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https://archive.org/...AuschwitzReport



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Posted 10 October 2021 - 09:49 AM

You must be the guy who tells his friends he's VRBO'd a vacation rental.  :banana:

I had to look up "VRBO", and still don't get the joke?

But then I don't get out much.

 

I take that it's probably some sort of mild insult ... but I've got a pretty thick skin even when I don't actually grok what any given insult might be :)



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Posted 10 October 2021 - 09:57 AM

Here’s a good video that somewhat goes against the “vaccines for everyone” narrative. A panel of 8 doctors/scientists discussing the importance of early interventions, the insanity of the current approach, and media/politicization of treatments.

It’s long (45 min) but very worth watching. Especially if you’ve bought into the idea that we can vaccinate our way out of this (a la Bonnie Henry. The science shows we can’t).

https://youtu.be/H31IJx-GNgY

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Posted 10 October 2021 - 09:59 AM

meh, it could have been worse, they could have had to wear a mask while shopping or eating out or going to a hockey game
 

Between July and September, 1942 a typhus epidemic had raged in AUSCHWITZ, especially in the women's camp of BIRKENAU None of the sick received medical attention and in the first stages of the epidemic a great many were killed by phenol injections, and later on others were gassed wholesale* Some 15,000 to 20,000, mostly Jews, died during these two months. The girls camp suffered the most, as it was not fitted with sanitary installations, and the poor wretches were covered with lice. Every week large "selections* took place and the girls had to present themselves naked to the "selection committee, » regardless of weather conditions* They waited in deadly fear whether they would' be chosen or given another week's grace .Suicides were frequent and were mostly committed by throwing oneself against the high tension wires of the inner fence* This went on until they had dwindled to 5 percent of their original number* Now there are only 400 of these girls left and most of them have been able to secure some sort of clerical post in the women' s camp* About 100 girls hold jobs at the staff building in AUSCHWITZ where they do all the clerical work connected with the administration of the two camps*, Thanks to their knowledge of languages they are also used as interpreters* Others are employed in the main kitchen and laundry* Of late these girls have been able to dress themselves quite well as they have had opportunities to complete their wardrobes which, in some cases, even include silk stockings* Generally speaking they are reasonably well off and are even allowed to let their* hair grow 0 Of course this cannot be said of the other Jewish inmates of the women's camp* It just so happens that these Slovak Jewish girls have been in the camp the longest of all. But if today they enjoy certain privileges, they have previously undergone frightful sufferings*

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Posted 10 October 2021 - 10:34 AM

The science shows we can’t

The science shows that we already are.

It's the unvaccinated who are perpetuating this virus ... the vaccinated folks are the folks who are actually the first ones to begin enjoying something thats's at least starting to resemble a normal life.

 

The unvaccinated will likely continue to drag us all down for years to come ... or at least until they're forcibly vaccinated.


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Posted 10 October 2021 - 10:37 AM

...The unvaccinated will likely continue to drag us all down for years to come ... or at least until they're forcibly vaccinated.

Or they die.



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Posted 10 October 2021 - 10:49 AM

The science shows that we already are.
It's the unvaccinated who are perpetuating this virus ... the vaccinated folks are the folks who are actually the first ones to begin enjoying something thats's at least starting to resemble a normal life.

The unvaccinated will likely continue to drag us all down for years to come ... or at least until they're forcibly vaccinated.


Please watch the video before responding. I know bonnie henry’s talking points already. You don’t know what the 8 docs in the panel discussed. You’re boring me. Watch it and respond with an original thought please.

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Posted 10 October 2021 - 10:50 AM

I watched it from start to finish. 
It’s an anti-vaxing video trying to masquerade as hard news … and you fell for it. 


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#18013 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 10 October 2021 - 10:55 AM

Please watch the video before responding. I know bonnie henry’s talking points already. You don’t know what the 8 docs in the panel discussed. You’re boring me. Watch it and respond with an original thought please.

 

i'm watching it right now.

 

it's very interesting.  especially about the therapeutics and how they are less profitable than vaccines.

 

i am disappointed though that the video has been edited.  and it's hard to tell why.  parts have been removed.  

 

 

 

remember just a week or three ago when everyone was freaking out over texas and florida?  and their permissive, no-mask, no lockdown stance?  why have they dropped so far back?

 


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#18014 Mike K.

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Posted 10 October 2021 - 11:25 AM

I had to look up "VRBO", and still don't get the joke?
But then I don't get out much.

I take that it's probably some sort of mild insult ... but I've got a pretty thick skin even when I don't actually grok what any given insult might be :)


It’s not an insult, it’s more like what first comes to mind when we think of certain words or phrases. Like a zipper, or a kleenex.

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Posted 10 October 2021 - 11:43 AM

It’s not an insult, it’s more like what first comes to mind when we think of certain words or phrases. Like a zipper, or a kleenex.

Ahhhhh! Now I get it!
And you’re absolutely correct. 
The association of that phrase with WW2 would likely be up over 90%, if not higher. 


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#18016 amor de cosmos

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Posted 11 October 2021 - 07:53 AM

In the UK over the last few weeks, there have been a growing number of reports of people testing positive for COVID on a lateral flow test (LFT) but then negative on a polymerase chain reaction (PCR) test. This stands out because we’ve been led to believe that PCR tests are the “gold standard” and LFTs are crude mass-testing devices – that PCRs should pick up cases LFTs miss, not the other way around.
 
A number of explanations have been put forward. Some have suggested a faulty batch of LFTs could be causing people to test positive when they don’t have COVID. Others have hypothesised a new variant could be circulating that isn’t detected by the standard PCR test. There have also been well-publicised stories of children faking a positive LFT result using the acidic properties of soft drinks. These spoofers would subsequently test negative on a follow-up PCR test.
 
The increase in these events also coincides roughly with the return of schools and big rises in the number of cases in children. These positive-then-negative sequences of tests might be something to do with the way children are being tested. Alternatively, vaccination may have changed where exactly in the body virus grows best, meaning different swabbing techniques used for different tests types are capturing more or less of the virus.
 
But there’s also a potential mathematical explanation, given neither test is 100% reliable. It’s all down to how often these tests give false positives and negatives.

https://theconversat...e-on-pcr-169502
 

Facts are often presented from the perspective of the scientists who produced them, or from media or government representatives, so believing them requires trust in these institutions. A decline in trust may trigger a feeling in some people that the authorities want to take away the control they have over their own lives.

This crisis of confidence is partly due to the fact that a majority of people have no direct experience with institutions such as medical research, journalistic enquiry or political decision-making. So when stories are presented to those who are vaccine hesitant, it feels like they are being expected to let outsiders guide them without getting any opportunity to ask questions.

Scientific facts and personal stories

Based on these findings, two recommendations can be made. The first would be to include more non-scientists in reports on scientific research so that audiences can better understand the issues and feel like they are participating in the debate. For example, with the impending approval of COVID-19 vaccines for five to 11 year olds, parents of children who have participated in clinical trials of these vaccines could be used to demystify the scientific research process and provide stories that other parents can relate to.
 
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The second recommendation would be to have more public discussions about the kinds of situations people who are worried are experiencing. Those who dare to express doubts today are too quickly removed from the debate and relegated to the status of pariahs. More examples should be presented of people who overcame their doubts, including the process through which they did so.
 
Some people who refuse vaccination see themselves as informed citizens or concerned parents. For them, this is an act of resistance that allows them to maintain control over their own lives. While it is important to ensure that scientific facts are reported, no one should downplay the importance of these legitimate concerns.
 
Publishing daily statistics on infections, hospitalizations and deaths is necessary, but is unlikely to be enough to raise awareness among hardcore vaccine resisters. To convince them, scientific facts should contextualized and made relatable to be understood as elements of a human experience.

https://theconversat...ormation-169221

Germany ends free COVID-19 tests to promote vaccination
People preferring not to get vaccinated will have to pay for rapid antigen tests needed for inside dining, entering cinemas, concert halls
https://www.aa.com.t...ination/2388898
 

CAIRO, Oct 10 (Reuters) - Egypt's public prosecution said on Sunday it had ordered the arrest of three people after thousands of unused COVID-19 vaccines were found dumped along a water channel.
 
It said the vaccines had been allocated to the health directorate in the city of Minya, about 220 km (137 miles) south of Cairo, where 18,400 vaccine packages with a value of more than 5 million Egyptian pounds ($319,000) were found to be missing.
 
An inventory found nearly 5,000 more packages had been lost from the depot because of storage at improper temperatures, a prosecution statement added. It did not give the number of doses or type of vaccine, but an earlier official statement said they were made by China's Sinopharm.
 
Images posted on social media showed piles of white boxes scattered along the water channel's banks in Bani Mazar province, north of Minya.

https://www.reuters....ped-2021-10-10/
https://thehill.com/...vid-19-vaccines

Iconic Azadi Tower welcomes visitors after COVID shutdown
https://www.tehranti...-COVID-shutdown
 

RUSSIA stole the formula for the Oxford/AstraZeneca jab and used it to help create its own vaccine, ministers have been told.
 
Security services say they have proof one of Vladimir Putin’s spies swiped the vital data.
 
They say they have proof that vital data was pinched from the drugs firm — including the blueprint for the Covid jab.
 
Russia’s Sputnik jab uses similar technology to the Oxford designed vaccine.
 
Security teams are now sure it was copied. It is understood the data was stolen by a foreign agent in person.
 
Last year spies pointed the finger at President Vladimir Putin. They said they were “more than 95 per cent” sure Russian state-sponsored hackers had targeted UK, US and Canadian bodies developing a Covid vaccine.

https://www.thesun.c...ords-covid-jab/
 
not that it matters since ending the pandemic is more important, but:

The developers of the Russian vaccine Sputnik V have lambasted The Sun's report about Russia allegedly stealing the formula for its COVID-19 vaccine from the Sweden-British pharmaceutical company AstraZeneca, accusing the tabloid of spreading "fake news" and undermining the global partnership to fight the pandemic.
 

"The story, originated by The Sun tabloid, is pushed by those opposing the success of one of the world’s most effective and safe vaccines against COVID-19 and we find such attacks highly unethical as they undermine the global vaccination effort".


The creators of the vaccine pointed out several facts that undermine confidence in The Sun's claims, such as the adenoviral platform used in the Russian vaccine being developed seven years ago. In addition, Sputnik V's viral vector is based on a human adenovirus, while AstraZeneca's jab uses a modified chimpanzee adenovirus.

Sputnik V is also different from the AstraZeneca vaccine due to using two different viral vectors in its two doses, the developers of the Russian medicine noted in their official statement. The British jab uses the same vector of the chimpanzee adenovirus in both shots.

The Russian Direct Investment Fund (RDIF), which backed the development of the medicine, also recalled via the vaccine's official Twitter account, that the two countries actually worked together on delivering better vaccines to people. Namely, the RDIF sent one of Sputnik V's components to AstraZeneca for tests on mixing the two jabs, which began in the wake of the British drug showing lower-than-desired efficacy levels in some patients.

https://sputniknews....1089837757.html

AstraZeneca's Antibody Cocktail Reduces Risk of Severe COVID-19, Death, Developer Says
https://sputniknews....1089835394.html

Russia's new COVID-19 infections, deaths near all-time highs
https://medicalxpres...s-all-time.html

Merck Requesting FDA Emergency Use Authorization for Covid Anti-Viral Pill
https://www.mediaite...nti-viral-pill/
 

Former Republican congressman and current Texas gubernatorial candidate Allen West, who is unvaccinated, unleashed a string of tweets bashing vaccines and mandates while he was hospitalized for Covid-19.

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“I am probably going to be admitted to the hospital,” he said after announcing both he and his wife received experimental monoclonal antibody infusion therapy.
 
The next day, West posted a lengthy Twitter thread where he ranted against vaccines while saying he was still hospitalized. “I can attest that, after this experience, I am even more dedicated to fighting against vaccine mandates,” West said. “Instead of enriching the pockets of Big Pharma and corrupt bureaucrats and politicians, we should be advocating the monoclonal antibody infusion therapy.”
 
He then ranted that he will “vehemently crush anyone forcing vaccine mandates” in Texas and defend people’s bodies, which he called “our last sanctuary of liberty and freedom.” (If that’s true, Texas needs to apply that logic to women who need an abortion.)
 
And there’s a problem with West’s assertion that antibody therapies are better than vaccines. Monoclonal antibody therapy doesn’t convey lasting immunity. According to the CDC, evidence suggests that reinfection is “uncommon within the 90 days after initial infection.” The agency still recommends people who received monoclonal antibodies get vaccinated after 90 days. Because as studies have repeatedly shown, the most protection you can have against the virus is a prior Covid infection plus a vaccine.

https://www.rollings...etoric-1239980/

Democrat-led states tended to have stronger response to COVID-19, which improved health outcomes, study shows
Political party affiliation connected to COVID-19 infection rate and deaths
https://www.newswise...es-study-shows/


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#18017 Barrrister

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Posted 11 October 2021 - 08:07 AM

Happy Thanksgiving everyone.


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Posted 11 October 2021 - 09:39 AM

Sydney's cafes, gyms and restaurants welcomed back fully vaccinated customers on Monday after nearly four months of lockdown, as Australia aims to begin living with the coronavirus and gradually reopen with high rates of inoculation.

 

Some pubs in Sydney, Australia's largest city, opened at 12:01 a.m. (1301 GMT Sunday) and friends and families huddled together for a midnight beer, television footage and social media images showed.

 

https://www.reuters....-19-2021-10-10/

 

 

 

https://www.worldome...ntry/australia/


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Posted 11 October 2021 - 02:01 PM

According to data released by Johns Hopkins University, more people have died from COVID-19 in 2021 than in 2020.

Despite President Biden’s promise to “shut down the virus,” since January 1, 2021, more than 353,000 deaths have been attributed to COVID-19. This is around 1,000 more than the number of people who died from COVID-19 during the first ten months of the pandemic in 2020.

 

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Posted 11 October 2021 - 02:57 PM

Kinda hard to “shut it down” when some 70 million Americans refuse to get vaccinated. 
 

Pro-Tip … Biden has nothing whatsoever to do with the decisions made by American Idiots. 
COVID won’t go anywhere until simple stupidity is eradicated. 


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