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[Victoria Watcher]

Or even less likely, 4000.

 

ok ok.

 

i was going by other reports.  but linked an article that was easier to clip.  HERE:

 

https://chicago.cbsl...lori-lightfoot/

 

 

 

 

At least two memos have gone out since Friday’s deadline for all city workers to report their vaccination status to the city, but Fraternal Order of Police President John Catanzara said thousands of officers are still refusing to do so.

 

“The unofficial number we have is about over 3,200; so about of third of the department,” Catanzara said.

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 21 October 2021 - 04:42 PM.

[Victoria Watcher]

so various jurisdictions tried different ideas to get people vaccinated.

parts of this county had lesser lockdowns than others.

but in the end the vaccination rate is more or less the same across the country.

What does that mean?

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 21 October 2021 - 05:48 PM.

[Nparker]

That most Canadians do what authorities tell them to do.

[qv]

That most Canadians do what authorities tell them to do.

That most Canadians follow medical advice and will protect themselves with an effective and free (to them) vaccine.

Same point you're making but framed differently.

[Nparker]

If authorities told Canadians to jump off a cliff many would do that too.

[Mike K.]

A 63-bed long term care facility operated by the Westbank First Nation is closing due to a shortage of vaccinated staff.

On Wednesday, the Indigenous community announced it expects to shut down its 63-bed Pine Acres Home in January 2022, after all residents have transitioned to other care facilities.

Westbank First Nation Chief Christopher Derickson says the care facility is short of staff who fulfil the provincial requirements for long-term care workers to be vaccinated.

- https://www.cbc.ca/n...covid-1.6220386

The article says they’ve lost 15 staff, but it doesn’t say how many staff they had on the payroll.

[Victoria Watcher]

that’s very odd.

[amor de cosmos]

A B.C. Supreme Court judge has granted an injunction against Rolly's Restaurant in Hope, which has been flouting a closure order issued by Fraser Health for not checking vaccine cards of patrons.
 
*snip*
 
Goulden said the injunction application wasn't about whether Rolly's Restaurant should be forced to check vaccine cards, but related to its refusal to comply with the closure order.
 
Throughout the proceedings, Abeling challenged the legality and constitutionality of B.C.'s vaccine card program.
 
Justice Andrew Mayer reminded her that he is "not here to evaluate the constitutionality of the orders that were made."
 
Rolly's was cited for closure and fined $345 five times by Fraser Health before the health authority sought the injunction.
 
The restaurant has also been operating without a business licence, which was suspended on Oct. 7 over its non-compliance with provincial health orders. District of Hope bylaw officers have issued Rolly's a $100 fine each and every day it has opened since.
 
Fraser Health issued a statement Thursday evening saying it is pleased with the decision, and the injunction will better enable the health authority to protect the health and wellness of people in the community.

https://www.cbc.ca/n...rders-1.6219647
 

Employment Minister Carla Qualtrough says it's likely that people who lose their jobs for not complying with employer COVID-19 vaccine policies will not be eligible for employment insurance (EI).
 
"It's a condition of employment that hasn't been met," Qualtrough said in an interview with CBC's Power & Politics. "And the employer choosing to terminate someone for that reason would make that person ineligible for EI.
 
"I can tell you that's the advice I'm getting, and that's the advice I'll move forward with."
 
Qualtrough said this rule does not apply in situations where someone has a medical exemption or a "valid reason" for not being vaccinated.
 
Employment and Social Development Canada's website says EI is available to "all individuals who lose their jobs through no fault of their own (for example, due to shortage of work, seasonal or mass lay-offs) and are available for and able to work, but can't find a job."
 
For most people, EI pays 55 per cent of their average weekly earnings up to a maximum of $595 per week.
 
Qualtrough's comments come as a number of workplaces are requiring that employees be vaccinated. Parliament's governing body recently announced a policy of mandatory vaccination for members of Parliament who do not have a medical exemption. The Toronto Police Service also announced today that officers who aren't vaccinated will be placed on unpaid leave.

https://www.cbc.ca/n...tatus-1.6220287
 
Scientists from RUDN, National Medical Research Centre for Hematology, and Lomonosov Moscow State University have uncovered one of the possible pathogenetic mechanisms of severe lymphopenia in patients with COVID-19. For the first time, they presented evidence of the possibility of direct infection of lymphocytes with SARS-CoV-2 virions. The article was published in the journal Viruses.
https://www.newswise...-with-covid-19/

Research by John P. Haran, MD, Ph.D., and Evan S. Bradley, MD, Ph.D., at UMass Chan Medical School, shows that patients with persistent long COVID symptoms have oral microbiomes with a significantly higher abundance of bacteria that induce inflammation. These findings suggest an association between the oral microbiome and long COVID that may point to dysfunction in the oral microbiome as a contributor to long COVID.
https://medicalxpres...microbiome.html

Parents were fine with sweeping school vaccination mandates five decades ago – but COVID-19 may be a different story
https://theconversat...nt-story-168899

New study finds no risk of pregnancy loss from COVID-19 vaccination
https://www.eurekale...releases/932380
 

Though almost 190 million people in the United States are fully vaccinated against COVID-19, that’s less than 60% of the country’s population. To increase that number, the federal government set in motion requirements that businesses with 100-plus employees mandate the vaccine.  
 
Some headlines decried such a move, saying it would hamper, not help the effort. But new research from a University of Pennsylvania team shows that such fears are unfounded. Rather than causing a backlash, the mandates strengthen vaccination intentions, results the researchers published in the journal Scientific Reports.
 
“Our experiments show very clearly that these requirements do not have any negative effects on vaccination intentions,” says Dolores Albarracín, the Alexandra Heyman Nash Penn Integrates Knowledge University Professor with appointments in the Annenberg School for Communication and the School of Nursing. “And, actually, they have positive effects across various ethnic groups and for people who have a tendency to oppose anything seemingly forced on them,” what’s known as psychological reactance, she says.
 
Albarracín, a social psychologist who also directs the Science of Science Communication Division at the Annenberg Public Policy Center, is particularly interested in the psychological impact of science-relevant policies.
 
The research, from Albarracín and colleagues Andy Tan and Jessica Fishman, postdoc Haesung Jung, and data analyst Wen Song, started with two questions: Is mandating a COVID-19 shot likely to promote vaccine uptake or increase resistance to it? How would such a requirement compare to allowing people to freely choose the vaccine?
 
“Last winter, when these vaccines started getting distributed, there was a great deal of controversy over potential mandates in hospitals and throughout other industries,” says Fishman, who runs the Message Effects Lab at Penn. “Today, many leaders still worry that they could make a difficult situation worse if they mandate vaccination. We wanted to better understand the psychological effects of these policies.”

https://www.eurekale...releases/932363
 
US gun violence increased 30 percent during COVID-19 pandemic
https://www.eurekale...releases/932224
 

A woman who survived cancer was infected with the novel coronavirus for nearly a year, in the longest-ever reported case of COVID-19, according to a new study.
 
The 47-year-old woman was first hospitalized with COVID-19 in spring 2020 at the National Institutes of Health (NIH) in Maryland, Science Magazine reported. Her infection continued for 335 days and was tracked through repeated positive COVID-19 tests and lingering symptoms that required supplemental oxygen at home. 

Though her tests showed up positive, virus levels in her body were barely detectable for months after her initial infection. Then, in March 2021, her virus levels spiked again. Researchers compared the genomes from samples collected during her original infection with the more recent one and found that the virus was the same. In other words, this patient wasn't reinfected, but had continued to harbor the same virus for almost a year, the authors reported in a study posted as a preprint on medRxiv, which has yet to be peer-reviewed.
 
The novel coronavirus was likely able to remain so long in the woman's body because she had a compromised immune system due to previous treatment of lymphoma, a cancer in part of the immune system, Science Magazine reported. The patient had been successfully treated with CAR T-cell therapy about three years ago, which weakened her immune system by depleting her body of most of its B cells, immune system cells that make antibodies.

https://www.livescie...cancer-survivor
 
Pfizer Says COVID-19 Vaccine Over 90% Effective in Children
https://sputniknews....1090137219.html

　　(抗击新冠肺炎)西方国家年底或囤积6亿剂疫苗 非洲累计确诊逾845万例
(Fighting COVID-19) Western countries may stock up to 600 million doses of vaccine by the end of the year, and Africa has confirmed more than 8.45 million cases
http://www.chinanews...2/9592443.shtml
 

　　中新社贵州遵义10月22日电 (瞿宏伦 袁超 周燕玲)连续600多天无疫情的贵州遵义，10月19日发现1例外省关联新冠确诊病例，现有确诊病例2例、无症状感染者5例。

　　截至目前，由贵州省人民医院、贵州医科大学附属医院以及遵义市11个县(市、区)等单位组成的核酸采样支援队，共计千名医务人员，已分配到遵义市城区各卡点，开展核酸采样工作。

　　截至10月22日16时，遵义已开展核酸检测747602人次，目前遵义市核酸检测人员和物资已准备充分，检测能力可满足当前和中心城区全员核酸采样检测需求。
 
China News Service, Zunyi, Guizhou, October 22 (Qu Honglun, Yuan Chao, Zhou Yanling) In Zunyi, Guizhou, which has been free of epidemics for more than 600 days, one province-associated confirmed case of COVID-19 was found on October 19, and there are 2 confirmed cases and asymptomatic infections. 5 cases.
 
Up to now, a nucleic acid sampling support team composed of Guizhou Provincial People’s Hospital, Guizhou Medical University Affiliated Hospital, and 11 counties (cities, districts) in Zunyi City, with a total of 1,000 medical personnel, has been assigned to various checkpoints in the urban area of ​​Zunyi City. Carry out nucleic acid sampling work.
 
As of 16:00 on October 22, Zunyi has carried out nucleic acid testing 747,602 person-times. Currently, Zunyi City nucleic acid testing personnel and materials are fully prepared, and the testing capabilities can meet the current and central urban area nucleic acid sampling and testing needs.

http://www.chinanews...2/9592997.shtml
 

A retired Chinese couple who tested positive for COVID-19, days after they went on a travel spree across the country, has been blamed for the latest spike in cases in the country, raising questions about the efficacy of China's zero-covid policy.
 
China on Friday reported 32 coronavirus cases, including four positive cases in Beijing, the spurt in the capital city causing a sense of disquiet among officials ahead of the winter Olympics early next year.
 
Beijing has been reporting stray cases since Tuesday this week, ending the zero-case record for over two months.
 
Critics say despite periodic outbreaks of infections in different parts of the country posing huge logistic challenges, China has shown no signs of relaxing its costly zero-covid policy.
 
China's National Health Commission, which releases daily updates of cases, said in its latest report that 28 new locally transmitted COVID-19 cases were reported on Thursday in different parts of the country.
 
Separately, Beijing''s health authorities reported four cases in the city.
 
The places where the cases were reported included Beijing, Inner Mongolia, Gansu, Shaanxi, Ningxia, Guizhou and Qinghai.

https://www.ndtv.com...-spikes-2584506

贵州遵义：16所中小学和幼儿园停课 排查学校3350所
Zunyi, Guizhou: 16 primary and secondary schools and kindergartens closed, 3350 schools were investigated
http://www.chinanews...2/9592915.shtml
 
Sputnik V contributes to one bln coronavirus vaccinations in India — local producer
Panacea Biotec company also intends to launch the production of Russia's Sputnik Light single-dose jab
https://tass.com/society/1352777
 

Russia’s Central Bank hiked interest rates to 7.5% on Friday as economists warned the country faces a triple threat of rising coronavirus cases, new lockdown measures and surging inflation.
 
The Russian economy recovered to its pre-coronavirus size earlier this year — a quicker recovery than first expected and faster than most other large economies — but now faces serious headwinds from both home and abroad.
 
The Central Bank said inflation was “developing substantially above forecast, and is expected to be within the range of 7.4-7.9% at the end of 2021” — a huge increase from the previous forecast of under 6% that was set in July.
 
Governor Elvira Nabiullina has taken an aggressive approach to taming inflation, and has warned for months that rising prices threaten to derail the Russian recovery.

https://www.themosco...-economy-a75378

Pence Visits In-N-Out Burger in California as Chain Refuses to Ask Customers' Vaccination Status
https://sputniknews....1090129380.html

VA Begins Disciplinary Process for Employees Refusing Coronavirus Vaccines
https://www.military...s-vaccines.html
 

HELENA, Mont. (AP) — Three public officials threatened doctors at a Montana hospital after they refused to treat a COVID-19 patient with ivermectin, a drug to treat parasites that is not federally approved to treat the respiratory disease, officials of St. Peter’s Health in Helena said.
 
“These officials have no medical training or experience, yet they were insisting our providers give treatment for COVID-19 that are not authorized, clinically approved or within the guidelines established by the FDA and the CDC,” hospital spokesperson Andrea Groom wrote in an email to the Montana State News Bureau on Monday.
 
Groom added: “In addition, they threatened to use their position of power to force our doctors and nurses to provide this care.”
 
The hospital did not name the elected officials, but Republican Attorney General Austin Knudsen’s office confirmed that he participated in a conference call with hospital executives last week after having sent a Montana Highway Patrol trooper to the hospital to talk with the family of the patient.
 
The event unfolded when a Helena woman in her 80s was hospitalized and wanted to be treated with ivermectin, a drug that has been promoted by Republican lawmakers, conservative talk show hosts and some doctors as a treatment for COVID-19.
 
Ivermectin has been used in other countries, including India and Brazil, and some studies on its effectiveness are underway. Its manufacturer, Merck, has said there is no indication the drug is safe or effective against COVID-19.

https://www.kfyrtv.c...ith-ivermectin/
 

Outspoken conservative political commentator Candace Owens has suggested the US military invade Australia in order to free its people “suffering under a totalitarian regime” while drawing comparisons to Hitler, Stalin and the Taliban.
 
Owens made the comments on her self-titled Daily Wire TV show earlier this week, declaring Covid-19 had propelled the planet into an “ideological and psychological” global war.

“When do we deploy troops to Australia? When do we invade Australia and free an oppressed people who are suffering under a totalitarian regime? When do we spend trillions of dollars to spread democracy in Australia?” she asked.
 
While US rightwing commentators are keen to portray Australians suffering under tyranny, the public health measures adopted by federal, state and territory governments have been overwhelmingly supported by the population.
 
The measures have also been largely successful. While Australia has had about 1,500 deaths and 130,000 cases, the figures are far below the US death toll of 730,000 deaths and 45m cases, even on a per capita basis.
 
The high-profile host went on to describe Australia as a “tyrannical police state” where “its citizens are quite literally being imprisoned against their will”.
 
“When do we deploy? Of course, I ask that in jest because we all know the real answer. What is happening in Australia under the guise of a virus … is federal overreach, tyranny, totalitarianism – the kind that gives birth to evil dictatorships and human atrocities,” Owens added.
 
“We are watching a replay of the early ambitions of Joseph Stalin, Adolf Hitler, Fidel Castro, Hugo Chávez.”
 
The ardent Trump supporter questioned whether the Australian government is “any better or any nobler than the Taliban” declaring that they both “believe that they have a right to oppress and a right to imprison people for their own good”.

https://www.theguard...ppressed-people
via https://www.mediaite...vade-australia/

[Ismo07]

If authorities told Canadians to jump off a cliff many would do that too.

 

Do you seriously think that governments across the world sit in front of their proverbial mirrors, wringing their hands and hoping the can control the electors?  Like they want them all inside to what purpose?  They want them all taking a vaccine?  To what purpose?  They what them all wearing masks?  To what purpose?   You think a controlling government will succeed in elections?  For better or worse they are elected to lead and make decisions, not to ask each elector what they should do.

 

I haven't felt controlled or compelled by anything the government says at this point.  The restrictions that have been placed have had some semblance of reasonability and nothing is too far out of whack.  Sure somethings do not make complete sense but I can certainly understand the sentiment of the decision whether or not I agree might be a different story.  I also understand I do not have all the information that they might.  When I am saying 'the government' I don't only mean locally but around the country and the world.  The overlying goal is not control of the masses, it is really to keep people safe.  There are few moustache curling villains out there.  To think these decisions are diabolical and for the sake of control is ridiculous story telling.  For the most part elected officials are trying to do their best with the information they are provided by their staff and professionals.  Whether you or I agree means little...

[Nparker]

Do you seriously think that governments across the world sit in front of their proverbial mirrors, wringing their hands and hoping they can control the electors?  ..

Perhaps not wringing their hands, but yes, I believe many governments want to control their electors, especially if it gives them more power.

[Ismo07]

Perhaps not wringing their hands, but yes, I believe many governments want to control their electors, especially if it gives them more power.

 

Again what's the purpose?  Just for the feeling of control?

[Mike K.]

The word government means “control the mind,” no? Or is that just urban legend.

[Ismo07]

The word government means “control the mind,” no? Or is that just urban legend.

 

That's the typical fear tactic by the worried...

[Danma]

The word government means “control the mind,” no? Or is that just urban legend.

 

Although ment is a latin word that means mind, -ment is a suffix descended from latin -mentum as a way to make nouns from verbs that indicate the result or product of the action.

https://www.etymonline.com/word/-ment

This generally makes sense because when you look at other words of the same suffix, e.g.: movement = the product of one moving, judgement = the product of one judging, government = the product of one governing.

 

[Nparker]

Way to be on board BC. 

 

https://www.canada.c.../get-proof.html

[Victoria Watcher]

B.C. is reporting 649 new cases of COVID-19, for a total of 200,898 cases in the province.

 

https://news.gov.bc....HLTH0065-002021

 

COVID-19 in Alberta: 12 deaths, 656 new cases on Friday

 

https://edmonton.ctv...riday-1.5634795

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 22 October 2021 - 05:36 PM.

[Victoria Watcher]

 

https://www.worldome...fo/coronavirus/

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 22 October 2021 - 05:46 PM.

[amor de cosmos]

“Covid-deniers” and “anti-vaxxers” should opt out of care in the public health system if they catch the virus as Victoria reopens, says the Victorian branch of the Australian Medical Association.

The AMA Victoria president, Dr Roderick McRae, said those who do not believe Covid-19 is real or a threat should update their advanced care directives and inform their relatives that they do not wish to receive care in the public health system if diagnosed with the virus.
 
From Friday, many restrictions will lift across the state as it has exceeded 70% full vaccination of those aged over 16. Though Victoria is still recording high daily case numbers, with 2,232 new cases reported on Thursday, high vaccination combined with lower than predicted length of stays in hospital has given the government confidence the health system will cope with measures lifting earlier than first anticipated.
 
But McRae, who is an intensive care physician and an anaesthetist, said health care workers were fatigued from lockdowns, Covid-19 outbreaks, and pressures on the health system, including staff shortages that existed before the pandemic.
 
“Within the public hospitals, the knees are knocking as restrictions ease, because the situation is stressed to the point that tents are going up outside of the public hospitals to facilitate the removal of ill patients from ambulances, so those ambulances can go and get the next patient,” he said.
 
Health workers would also be grappling in coming months with a backlog of patients who had been forced to delay their elective surgery because private hospitals and staff were being redirected to treat Covid patients.
 
“So these patients continue to suffer some pain or disability for a longer period of time, and they’re often patients who’ve been double vaccinated, they’re elderly, and they’ve done everything right, but their knee replacement is being delayed and the public hospital waiting lists are growing,” McRae said.
 
“We’re all juggling everything the best we can to avoid and prevent deaths. We know as we reopen it’s the unvaccinated who are going to get Covid, and they are going to get great hospital treatment with many new experimental drugs, even though they think the vaccine is ‘experimental’.
 
“A whole lot of these people are passionate disbelievers that the virus even exists. And they should notify their nearest and dearest and ensure there’s an advanced care directive that says, ‘If I am diagnosed with this disease caused by a virus that I don’t believe exists, I will not disturb the public hospital system, and I’ll let nature run its course’.”

https://www.theguard...take-its-course
 
fake news?

Two days after arriving at a Fredericksburg, Va., hospital with covid-19 in September, Misty Mitchem was put on a ventilator. Another two days later, she died.

Misty’s husband, Kevin Mitchem, got the news as he arrived at a separate hospital with an unshakable cough. He also had covid-19, and within a week or so he couldn’t breathe on his own, Kevin’s younger brother, Mike Mitchem, told The Washington Post.

Kevin died on Oct. 8, orphaning the four children he and Misty had raised together — and leaving behind a 22-year-old daughter from a previous relationship. But before he did, he expressed regret that he had not been immunized.

“His last words to my mom were, ‘Mom, I love you. I wish I would have got the shot,’ ” Mike Mitchem told The Post.

Neither Kevin, 48, nor Misty, 46, were vaccinated against the coronavirus, Mike Mitchem told The Post. He said the Stafford County couple had regularly taken in online misinformation about the virus and vaccines. “He liked to listen to different memes he would see — or different people saying … covid is not real.”

“I remember him telling me … ‘I ain’t ever going to get it. It ain’t going to happen to me,’ ” Mike Mitchem added.
 
*snip*

Since the Mitchems’ deaths have made headlines, Mike Mitchem said, almost a dozen people have reached out to tell him they have been vaccinated because they heard Kevin and Misty’s story. Yet he’s also noticed that others online have called the story “fake news.”

“Why would the media make up a story this tragic?” he said. “I would give anything for it to not be true, just to have my brother back.”

https://www.washingt...e-die-covid-19/

[Mike K.]

The problem is, that so many people distrust the media now that it’s difficult to expect them to suddenly change their level of trust.

[Victoria Watcher]

Quebec reports 451 new cases of COVID-19, 4 deaths as hospitalizations drop

 

https://montrealgaze...alizations-drop

 

Ontario reports 373 new COVID-19 cases on Saturday

https://www.cbc.ca/n...er-23-1.6222610