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#19101 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 02 December 2021 - 03:54 PM

It is preposterous from both sides. The likely have some rules where you need to have 2 multiple negative tests I guess. They are very concerned still "down under" and have taken it to a degree that is way out there for sure. At least from the reports out of there. But after being there, why bother trying to break out? I wouldn't mind a week there to be honest.


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Posted 02 December 2021 - 04:32 PM

Amy numbers for the Island yet?

B.C. records 368 new cases of COVID-19 and 5 more deaths

https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.6270832


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88 new cases in Island Health, which has 602 total active cases.

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Posted 02 December 2021 - 04:36 PM

In spite of the high level of vaccination, our numbers do not seem to be getting any better. I am thinking back to the summer of this year were there was only a few people in hospital. 


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Posted 02 December 2021 - 04:36 PM

Our numbers are down over the past week.

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Posted 02 December 2021 - 04:45 PM

In spite of the high level of vaccination, our numbers do not seem to be getting any better. I am thinking back to the summer of this year were there was only a few people in hospital. 

 

Was that when we still had a number of restrictions in place?


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Posted 02 December 2021 - 04:45 PM

They are down a little bit but they seem to have basically hit a plateau with a fairly steady stream of new cases. I just think that this is going to be with us for a long time to come. At least it has not been raining.


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Posted 02 December 2021 - 04:50 PM

They are down a little bit but they seem to have basically hit a plateau with a fairly steady stream of new cases. I just think that this is going to be with us for a long time to come. At least it has not been raining.

 

It is also the start of the seasonal flu season which is when we see higher counts of virus infections.



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Posted 02 December 2021 - 09:01 PM

This is irrelevant to the discussion.

 

The relevant and knowledgeable authority has made crystal clear that vaccinations are the methodology that B.C. will utilize in order to move past COVID-19.

In case you haven't noticed, legislators and the legislation they enact (both Federally and Provincially) supports these authorities 100%, and do so 100% of the time.

 

Chiropractors aren't doctors, and have absolutely no knowledge of epidemiology or virology. 

In short, their opinion is no more relevant than any other anti-vaxer out there.

The anti-vaxers day has come and gone I'm afraid ... and Germany today finally made the move that will eventually be made around the world, and directed that the non-vaccinated remain locked down, and that mandatory (read "forced") vaccinations may be in the cards for the fools that are perpetuating this pandemic.

 

speechless 

 

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Posted 02 December 2021 - 11:09 PM

speechless 

 

TFord 

Finally.


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Posted 03 December 2021 - 08:58 AM

A 3-year-old went for a flu shot. Instead, she mistakenly got an adult COVID-19 vaccine
https://www.cbc.ca/n...id-19-1.6271286

A new study by University of Notre Dame sociologist Kraig Beyerlein found that the relationship between religion and vaccine hesitancy or acceptance is more complicated than it may appear.
Beyerlein, an associate professor and director of the Center for the Study of Religion and Society, found that 30 percent of congregants from major Christian traditions in the United States heard solely encouraging messages about vaccination from faith leaders or fellow members. Another third heard both encouraging and discouraging messaging, and 32 percent heard no messaging at all.
https://medicalxpres...nti-covid-.html
 
Native Americans experience substantially greater rates of COVID-19 mortality compared with other racial and ethnic groups, according to a new study led by Princeton University researchers. Those living on reservations seem especially vulnerable to the virus, due to high rates of poverty, crowded living conditions and limited access to high-quality medical facilities.
https://www.eurekale...releases/936739
 

A new automated system that involves deep learning technology enables the detection of COVID-19 lesion via the analysis of a computed tomography (CT) scan. This system, described in a study published in the journal Computers in Biology and Medicine, has been carried out by researchers of the UB, the EURECAT Technology Centre of Catalonia, and the Computing Vision Center (CVC).
 
The study “has enabled us to verify the efficiency of the system as a support tool for decision-making for health professionals in their COVID-19 detection task, and for measuring the gravity, the extension and the evolution of the pneumonia caused by SARS-CoV-2, in the mid and long term”, notes the principal researcher of the study, Giuseppe Pezzano, researcher at the UB and at EURECAT Digital Health Unit.
 
Specifically, the functioning of the system consists of “a first phase of lung segmentation with the CT scan to reduce the searching area”, says Pezzano. “Then, an algorithm is used to analyse the lung area and detect the presence of COVID-19. If it tests positive, the image is processed to identify the areas that are affected by the disease”, he adds.
 
The algorithm has been tested in 79 volumes and 110 sections of CTs which had detected COVID-19 infection, obtained in three open-access image repositories. The researchers achieved an average accuracy for the segmentation of lesions caused by the virus of about 99%, without false positives being observed during the identification.

https://www.eurekale...releases/936712
 

COVID-19 vaccines made by Pfizer and Moderna that use mRNA technology provide the biggest boost to antibody levels when given 10-12 weeks after the second dose, a British study published on Thursday has found.
 
The COV-Boost study was cited by British officials when they announced that Pfizer and Moderna were preferred for use in the country's booster campaign, but the data has only been made publicly available now.
 
The study found that six out of the seven boosters examined enhanced immunity after initial vaccination with Pfizer-BioNTech's vaccine, while all seven increased immunity when given after two doses of AstraZeneca's vaccine.
 
"A third dose will be effective for many of the vaccines we've tested and in many different combinations," Prof. Saul Faust, an immunologist at the University of Southampton and the trial's lead, told reporters.

https://www.cbc.ca/n...c2021-1.6272140
https://www.eurekale...releases/936564
 
Guayaquil, Ecuador, December 2, 2021 (venezuelanalysis.com) – Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro urged a ramping up of Covid-19 vaccination efforts and condemned the Western countries’ response over the new Omicron variant, first identified in South Africa.
“There is no international scientific report that establishes the real threat of this variant,” said Maduro in a televised broadcast on Sunday. He criticized the United States and European governments for causing a “world scandal” and issuing “political statements” towards African countries in the form of travel bans.
https://venezuelanal....com/news/15401
 
A Italian man who wanted a coronavirus vaccine certificate without actually having the jab tried to play the system by presenting health workers with a fake arm, an official said Friday.
https://medicalxpres...d-jab-fake.html
 
Dec. 2, 2021 -- South Africa’s COVID-19 cases almost doubled within 24 hours, jumping from a reported 4,300 new cases on Tuesday to 8,500 new daily cases on Wednesday, according to the BBC.
Health officials have confirmed that the new Omicron variant has become the dominant coronavirus strain in South Africa and is driving a sharp increase in new infections.
https://www.webmd.co...double-24-hours
 
With the Omicron variant spreading through different parts of India, the country's top genome scientists have suggested a booster dose of COVID-19 vaccines for those above the age of 40 who are considered to be high-risk.
The recommendation has been made by the scientists in the latest weekly bulletin of the Indian SARS-CoV-2 Genomics Sequencing Consortium (INSACOG), a network of national testing labs set up by the government to monitor genomic variations of COVID-19 across India.
https://sputniknews....1091220526.html

William Hartmann, the Republican member of the Wayne County Board of Canvassers who made national headlines for initially refusing to certify the results of the 2020 presidential election, died Tuesday following a battle with COVID-19. 
Douglas Reimel, Hartmann’s friend, shared the news on Facebook, and others who knew Hartmann offered their condolences online. Hartmann was 63.
https://www.freep.co...ser/8814707002/
via https://crooksandlia...m-hartmann-dies
 

Critics are responding with alarm to news Florida GOP Governor Ron DeSantis is asking for millions of taxpayer funds to create his own militia force, separate from the existing National Guard.

*snip*
 
But the highly-controversial Florida Republican, seen as one of the top 2024 GOP presidential candidates, is also making clear his motives are a further escalation in his war of words against the Biden administration.
 
"DeSantis also said this unit, called the Florida State Guard, would be 'not encumbered by the federal government.' He said this force would give him 'the flexibility and the ability needed to respond to events in our state in the most effective way possible.'"
 
It's also being seen as one more potential attack on science during the coronavirus pandemic era. All National Guard members must be vaccinated. DeSantis opposes all vaccine and mask mandates and has invited unvaccinated, fired police officers from others states to move to Florida – and offering them a $5000 payment.
 
Former Florida Gov. Charlie Crist, now a U.S. Congressman but running to unseat DeSantis, called DeSantis' militia a "handpicked secret police" force.
 
Perhaps one of the strongest warnings comes from SiriusXM Progress host Dean Obeidallah, who calls it "the beginning of a 'Red Army' as the GOP prepares for war."
 
"The same Republicans who claim Jan 6 was not a terrorist attack but just a 'tourist visit' now tell us not to be concerned with Ron DeSantis forming a personal militia that he says will 'not encumbered by the federal government,'" Obeidallah adds. "This is a Red Army!!!"

https://www.alternet...santis-militia/

Trump Allegedly Tested Positive for COVID-19 Days Before Hosting Gold Star Families at White House
https://www.military...hite-house.html



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Posted 03 December 2021 - 09:50 AM

From the CBC! another sign of shifting sentiment. CBC makes it valid for the main thread right? 

 

On COVID restrictions, our governments keep firing up the gaslights and shifting the goalposts

"It was a precipitous but inevitable shift from "two weeks to flatten the curve" to get the jab or lose your job, and unsurprisingly, there is still more to come.

Met the provincial vaccination targets? Great; but now it's time for a booster. Ready for the "temporary" vaccine passport system to expire? Sorry, we need to extend it through spring; proving once again that if you give the government an inch on your rights, they will go for the mile every time."

 

https://www.cbc.ca/n...posts-1.6268380


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Posted 03 December 2021 - 10:17 AM

grain of salt from their opinion faq:

We're looking for contributors from a variety of backgrounds who have a strong opinion that could illuminate an issue in the news or change how people think about a timely issue. Preference is given to unexpected points of view that challenge preconceptions, have not been widely published before, or covered by CBC News in our reporting. 
 
Each Opinion column must stand independently, laying out the author's clear position with supporting arguments and researched context. Columns should not simply repeat facts.
 
Authors do not necessarily have to be professional or high-profile writers. 
 
CBC does not accept rebuttals or critiques of published columns, but we do welcome pitches for opinion columns expressing a different point of view regarding topics already covered by other authors.

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Posted 03 December 2021 - 10:47 AM

From the CBC! another sign of shifting sentiment. CBC makes it valid for the main thread right? 

 

On COVID restrictions, our governments keep firing up the gaslights and shifting the goalposts

"It was a precipitous but inevitable shift from "two weeks to flatten the curve" to get the jab or lose your job, and unsurprisingly, there is still more to come.

Met the provincial vaccination targets? Great; but now it's time for a booster. Ready for the "temporary" vaccine passport system to expire? Sorry, we need to extend it through spring; proving once again that if you give the government an inch on your rights, they will go for the mile every time."

 

https://www.cbc.ca/n...posts-1.6268380

 

As I mentioned a while back, it's all a matter of perspective.  We look back on other major viruses and pandemics as a tiny blip in history, whereas with COVID-19, we're living it in real time, watching new variants emerge, watching to see how well vaccines and other preventative measures work.  All in real time.  Of course it's going to look like shifting the goalposts.  It's called science.  Science evolves and new conclusions are arrived at all the time.

 

Cancer must be a scam too, the precautions we take to reduce our risk are just a big lie by a secret underground teetotaler association to avoid alcohol and cigarette consumption.  Big pharma must be making a killing stalling the release of their cure!


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Posted 03 December 2021 - 11:06 AM

From the CBC! another sign of shifting sentiment. CBC makes it valid for the main thread right? 

 

You continually post as if there's an established road map that governments are supposed to be following?

Realistically, we've only ever had one other world wide pandemic prior to this one, and air travel and immediate access from one country to another wasn't even a "thing" back then.

 

So you repeatedly fault governments for actually governing, and and further fault governments for accepting their responsibilities to do everything in their power to protect their citizens, and society in general from a rampant virus that's killed 5 million people in the last 20 months.

 

You complain endlessly ... but offer nothing of value in return except a dubious and highly flawed personal opinion which you're repeatedly trying to sell as one half of a legitimate argument?

 

What else have you got? ... because this simply isn't cutting it.


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Posted 03 December 2021 - 01:37 PM

ONTARIO:

 

https://covid-19.ont...ospitalizations

 


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Posted 03 December 2021 - 02:29 PM

ONTARIO:

 

 

 

If those number are solid (grain of salt but why wouldn't they be) can you really argue that the vaccine isn't worth it? 10% of Ontario (over 12) doesn't have a dose at this point...  Extrapolated with the numbers above...?  Yikes.


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Posted 03 December 2021 - 04:02 PM

I agree. However you can argue anything including that the facts (data) is wrong and a plot by government to control people and take their freedoms away.

Just thought I would say something out there before someone who might believe such statements does.



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Posted 03 December 2021 - 04:22 PM

You continually post as if there's an established road map that governments are supposed to be following?

Realistically, we've only ever had one other world wide pandemic prior to this one, and air travel and immediate access from one country to another wasn't even a "thing" back then.

 

So you repeatedly fault governments for actually governing, and and further fault governments for accepting their responsibilities to do everything in their power to protect their citizens, and society in general from a rampant virus that's killed 5 million people in the last 20 months.

 

You complain endlessly ... but offer nothing of value in return except a dubious and highly flawed personal opinion which you're repeatedly trying to sell as one half of a legitimate argument?

 

What else have you got? ... because this simply isn't cutting it.

You just insult me. So by my gauge I add more value. 


Edited by dasmo, 03 December 2021 - 04:22 PM.


#19119 Barrrister

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Posted 03 December 2021 - 04:26 PM

The Ontario stats are pretty typical across many North American jurisdiction. This represents a very onerous load on the health care system. 



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Posted 03 December 2021 - 04:38 PM

 

Cancer must be a scam too, the precautions we take to reduce our risk are just a big lie by a secret underground teetotaler association to avoid alcohol and cigarette consumption.  Big pharma must be making a killing stalling the release of their cure!

Thanks for that false equivalence. A perfect invitation. No one is forcing people to take Chemo or lose there jobs. Or show proof they are taking it to get access to society. In fact it took 40 years of people fighting "the Science" to expose the problems with cigarettes. cigarettes killed my parents in their 60s actually. It think it is estimated that 8 million die each year from tobacco related illness to this day. But hey, I'm not anti-smoking so fill your boots. Just don't make me do it. 

More Doctors Smoke Camels.... 


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