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#161 rjag

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Posted 22 August 2021 - 12:34 PM

The Liberals continue to hold a lead over the Conservatives in national polling and would likely gain seats if an election were held today, but are slipping further away from being within reach of the 170 seats needed for a majority government.

The Conservatives are trailing in second and slowly closing the gap on the Liberals. The NDP also has some momentum and is poised to gain seats. The Bloc Québécois and Greens are holding steady but at lower levels of support than in the 2019 election. The People's Party sits at 3.6 per cent.

https://newsinteract...tracker/canada/

 

Interesting as Frank Grave who is a well known backer of the LPC is polling the CPC at 32.9 and the lpc at 31.4. It should also be noted that about 1/2 of the 405 seats are in play and the 18-49 age group the CPC ranks higher

 

Daily Tracking: August 21, 2021 « EKOS Politics

 

https://twitter.com/...6933103621?s=20


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#162 Daveyboy

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Posted 22 August 2021 - 04:12 PM

Unfortunately (IMHO) the NDP and Bloq will never align with the Conservatives, so we will continue to have a minority government ruled by Junior.


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#163 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 22 August 2021 - 04:30 PM

we could forever have a left government but the left parties can’t help themselves they thrive at the idea of control of people so bad.

so they splinter.

look at the NDP peninsula candidate in today’s black press. she can’t wait to take “rich people’s money”.

what a piece of work.

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#164 Mike K.

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Posted 22 August 2021 - 05:06 PM

That’s the thing, right? The NDP can say whatever they want with zero chance of having to deal with the repercussions.
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#165 Mike K.

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Posted 23 August 2021 - 06:42 AM

A video tweeted by incumbent Liberal candidate Chrystia Freeland, who served as deputy prime minister in Justin Trudeau's government, was given a warning label Sunday from Twitter, which marked it as "manipulated media."

Freeland's tweets, posted in both English and French, contain several edits and show Conservative leader Erin O'Toole answering a question about privatized health care during an online question-and-answer session in July 2020 during the Conservative leadership race.

https://www.cbc.ca/n...media-1.6149734

Trudeau has even attacked O’Toole over this fake edit/its messaging, claiming he wants to privatize healthcare.

The Liberals, so far in this campaign, are stepping on every rake in the local vegetation garden.
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#166 Nparker

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Posted 23 August 2021 - 06:46 AM

...The Liberals, so far in this campaign, are stepping on every rake in the local vegetation garden.

https://youtu.be/aRq1Ksh-32g



#167 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 23 August 2021 - 06:57 AM

now trudeau might have to decide if he can go to the emergency g7 meeting (if there is one).  maybe o'toole can go in his place.

 

 

 

 

At an emergency meeting of G7 world leaders on Tuesday, Prime Minister Boris Johnson will ask US President Joe Biden for an extension of that deadline in order to allow more flights.

But a spokesman for the Taliban said it would not support a deadline extension.

 

Suhail Shaheen said an extension would mean extending Afghanistan's occupation, and warned of consequences if that were to change.

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-58302734

 

James Heappey told BBC Breakfast that 6,631 people had been evacuated to the UK in the past week, and that nine flights were planned for a 24-hour period.

 

He said about 1,800 "eligible people" or UK passport holders remained in Afghanistan - as well as 2,275 Afghans who can be resettled having worked for the UK government, and a further list of people from "wider Afghan civil society who we would like to get out if we're able".

 

 

 

 

 

trudeau will not tell us how many canadians are there - for security reasons he says.  somehow the UK can though.


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#168 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 23 August 2021 - 07:14 AM

A video tweeted by incumbent Liberal candidate Chrystia Freeland, who served as deputy prime minister in Justin Trudeau's government, was given a warning label Sunday from Twitter, which marked it as "manipulated media."

Freeland's tweets, posted in both English and French, contain several edits and show Conservative leader Erin O'Toole answering a question about privatized health care during an online question-and-answer session in July 2020 during the Conservative leadership race.

https://www.cbc.ca/n...media-1.6149734

Trudeau has even attacked O’Toole over this fake edit/its messaging, claiming he wants to privatize healthcare.

The Liberals, so far in this campaign, are stepping on every rake in the local vegetation garden.

 

 

yes it's very clearly manipulated.

 

HERE:  https://twitter.com/...435243820462082



#169 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 24 August 2021 - 05:35 AM

 

https://twitter.com/...455155075362822

 

WE letter to Canadaland:

 

https://staticsb.we....104019762-1.pdf

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It’s a bit like putting the cart before the horse.

 

Lawyers from the beleaguered WE Charity have served libel notice against a Toronto publisher for a podcast that hasn’t even been aired yet, says Blacklock’s Reporter.

 

It was Canadaland who first disclosed payments of six-figure talent fees to Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s family.

 

A lawyer for the Kielburger brothers accused Canadaland of a “pastiche of falsehoods” in a podcast.

 

https://westernstand...e-podcast-airs/

 

Cabinet in 2020 awarded a $43.5 million grant to We Charity without disclosing conflicts of interest. The Kielburgers at the time said they had not paid any sums to members of the Prime Minister’s family, a claim disproven by invoices disclosed by Canadaland on July 9, 2020.

 

“According to We Charity this was a billing error,” testified Brown.

 

“Our documentation shows that if it was a billing error, it was actually a series of many billing errors.”

 

Records showed We Charity in fact paid Trudeau’s family $481,751 in gifts, talent fees and expense-paid trips to London and New York.

 

“We should have been, and allow me to say this candidly, more forthright,” Craig Kielburger told the Commons finance committee July 28, 2020.


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#170 Mike K.

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Posted 24 August 2021 - 06:53 AM

Another rake in face moment.

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Posted 24 August 2021 - 07:02 AM

Liberals now saying they will ban foreign ownership of property in Canada if re-elected. With both leading parties now making similar promises I am assuming this will cause a big spike in property values over the next month as foreign purchasers quickly jump into the market.

 

Election 2021: Liberals will build new homes, ban foreign homeownership | Vancouver Sun



#172 rjag

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Posted 24 August 2021 - 07:04 AM

 

I wonder how Bill C10 would manage this? From what I have read you only have to show that your feelings may be hurt for C10 to kick in.

 

Seems like a wet dream for Victoria Council and TV if it comes to pass. 


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#173 rjag

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Posted 24 August 2021 - 07:12 AM

Liberals now saying they will ban foreign ownership of property in Canada if re-elected. With both leading parties now making similar promises I am assuming this will cause a big spike in property values over the next month as foreign purchasers quickly jump into the market.

 

Election 2021: Liberals will build new homes, ban foreign homeownership | Vancouver Sun

 

 

Dumb leading the dumber.

How about boosting our economy by limiting foreign purchases to new builds priced in the top 10th percentile of the local market. ie Toronto, Vancouver and Victoria that might be over $1.5-2.0 million. and in Winnipeg it may be over $600k etc.

 

This has the impact of encouraging foreign direct investment, local jobs and has minimal impact on the lower 50% of home ownership. 



#174 spanky123

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Posted 24 August 2021 - 07:15 AM

^ Even more stupidity. Trudeau promises housing 'bill of rights' and new incentives to help Canadians buy a home (msn.com)

 

Forcing the CMHC to lower rates will increase house prices!  Banning house flipping will simply stop renovations of older homes and reduce the availability to new buyers (ie how many young buyers want to buy a house and then spend $300K on a major reno)? Knowing what a house previously sold for dictates the current price? Someone please tell BC Housing that!


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#175 Mike K.

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Posted 24 August 2021 - 07:19 AM

Liberals now saying they will ban foreign ownership of property in Canada if re-elected. With both leading parties now making similar promises I am assuming this will cause a big spike in property values over the next month as foreign purchasers quickly jump into the market.

Election 2021: Liberals will build new homes, ban foreign homeownership | Vancouver Sun


Yes, because that has worked so well in the markets that banned foreign ownership already.

The challenge is populations are in flux as people move outside of urban areas. The housing file suddenly has become a “thing” across the country and not just in four cities. And we’ve created political wedges that now make the housing everyone wants (houses; SFDs) difficult to build because of poor planning and decision making (concentrating employment primarily in single nodes; not addressing public transit; building inadequate arterial roads) that have made houses out to be the scapegoat of housing problems.

But consider how things have changed with regards to how SFDs are perceived in our own community:

In the late 00s: don’t buy a house, the market will crash
In the early 10s: don’t buy a house, the market will crash further
In the mid 10s: foreign buyers are taking homes away from Canadians
Late 10s: you should have bought a house ten years ago
Early 20s: houses are the root cause of housing issues; do not buy a house; challenge those who live in houses

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#176 rjag

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Posted 24 August 2021 - 07:22 AM


In the late 00s: don’t buy a house, the market will crash
In the early 10s: don’t buy a house, the market will crash further
In the mid 10s: foreign buyers are taking homes away from Canadians
Late 10s: you should have bought a house ten years ago
Early 20s: houses are the root cause of housing issues; do not buy a house; challenge those who live in houses

 

Sounds like you're quoting from Leo's handbook....I wonder if he'll use that approach when running for a Saanich council seat next year?



#177 spanky123

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Posted 24 August 2021 - 07:25 AM

^ The fact is that for most young workers these days, buying a house is a bad move. 50 years ago it made sense as people worked for the same company for life, had larger families and kids at much younger ages, didn't travel nearly as much and the tax structure and pension structure made it a nice little savings vehicle.

 

If you have the discipline to save money then you are far better off from both a financial and career perspective to rent. 



#178 Mike K.

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Posted 24 August 2021 - 07:34 AM

It made sense for me three years ago.

I disagree it’s a bad move. It’s the best move you’ll ever make.

Where we run into trouble is when people expect to buy a house in Location A, but can only afford Location C. That’s the only hold-up I’m seeing.

But this is what I mean, though. We have far too many people complaining they can’t buy a house who didn’t buy a house in 2005, or 2010, or 2015, or 2020. There was always a reason not to, or that they couldn’t. Meanwhile tens of thousands of houses sold in Victoria over that period most of which were bought by Victorians.

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#179 Mike K.

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Posted 24 August 2021 - 07:42 AM

Sounds like you're quoting from Leo's handbook....I wonder if he'll use that approach when running for a Saanich council seat next year?

The new advocacy is centred on building “missing middle” million dollar townhomes in sought after neighbourhoods, and how that will solve the housing issue.

The only thing that will solve the local housing issue is 50 sq km of new housing people want to buy (houses), and spread out employment (not concentrating everything downtown). Anything else is just political footwork, if it’s claimed to be a “solution.”

Victoria’s challenge is its urban footprint is tiny, and it is being restrained by politics. The result is chaos as the market is left to operate within a constantly eroding supply of land despite massive, absolutely massive, tracts of empty land in its immediate vicinity.

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Posted 24 August 2021 - 08:45 PM

WTF is with the Greens?  They have gone ISIS crazy.

 

 

The federal Greens have nominated a candidate in Nova Scotia who was turfed by the NDP in the last national campaign after a tweet surfaced in which she had compared Israel to Nazi Germany.

 

Bunch of friggen wingnuts

 

https://www.msn.com/...k?ocid=msedgntp



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