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#481 Mike K.

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Posted 25 June 2021 - 10:54 AM

So you're saying some First Nations children were more privileged than others.


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#482 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 25 June 2021 - 10:57 AM

So you're saying some First Nations children were more privileged than others.

 

probably lots of the ones that grew up in white foster homes.


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#483 Mike K.

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Posted 25 June 2021 - 11:19 AM

Canada's foster home industry was excellent in 1935, much better than the shocking example of government indifference it is today.

 

Sarcasm aside, Canada's child welfare system is sorely lacking today. Children are abused, sexually assaulted, and left uncared for under our present day system.


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Posted 25 June 2021 - 11:23 AM

I'll take your expertise on the matter as my knowledge of 1930s orphans is limited to Our Gang and Little Rascals movies.


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#485 Mike K.

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Posted 25 June 2021 - 11:25 AM

What movie did you learn WWII stuff from?


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#486 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 25 June 2021 - 11:40 AM

What movie did you learn WWII stuff from?

 

https://en.wikipedia...urious_Basterds



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Posted 25 June 2021 - 02:37 PM

Saskatchewan RCMP say they'll work closely with the Cowessess First Nation if officials decide to pursue charges over the apparent bulldozing of its grave markers.

This week, Cowessess Chief Cadmus Delorme announced the discovery of 751 unmarked graves in the community.

https://www.cbc.ca/n...arges-1.6080732



keeps getting curiouser. removing the grave markers in the 60’s might be the criminal act that RCMP are willing to act on?

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Posted 25 June 2021 - 03:21 PM

^ What I find worrisome is that the narrative keeps changing. So the issue is no longer the discovery of unknown graves it is that the markers that were in place were removed.

 

If it is illegal then fine it should be investigated, but lets remember that FN didn't use headstones to mark their own dead.



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Posted 25 June 2021 - 03:23 PM

is the guy still alive if done “in the 60’s”?

yes FN never used markers.

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Posted 25 June 2021 - 03:23 PM

is the guy still alive if done “in the 60’s”?

 

Could be. I am surprised that nobody filed a complaint at the time however if it was so important.


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#491 Benezet

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Posted 25 June 2021 - 04:44 PM

^ What I find worrisome is that the narrative keeps changing. So the issue is no longer the discovery of unknown graves it is that the markers that were in place were removed.

If it is illegal then fine it should be investigated, but lets remember that FN didn't use headstones to mark their own dead.

In my mind, the underlying issue is the very existence of the residential school system — or more precisely, the intent of it.

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#492 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 25 June 2021 - 04:50 PM

^ but that was settled with the largest class action in Canadian history. it’s done.

everybody received compensation. large.

it’s not our fault the beneficiaries spent all the money and now want more. not how it works.

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#493 LJ

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Posted 25 June 2021 - 07:19 PM

is the guy still alive if done “in the 60’s”?

yes FN never used markers.

There are markers on the graves in the Cowichan Indian reserve, don't know when they are from tho.


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#494 amor de cosmos

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Posted 26 June 2021 - 06:56 AM

Six Nations prepares to move forward with grounds search of former Mohawk Institute Residential School
https://www.aptnnews...dential-school/
 

The Catholic religious order that operated residential schools in Saskatchewan and British Columbia where hundreds of unmarked graves have been found has made a formal "commitment to transparency" to disclose all historical documents in its possession that are related to the schools.
 
The Missionary Oblates of Mary Immaculate operated 48 schools, including the Marieval Indian Residential School in the Cowessess First Nation in Saskatchewan and the Kamloops Indian Residential School in B.C.
 
On Thursday, the Cowessess First Nation announced the preliminary discovery of 751 unmarked graves at the former Marieval Indian Residential School.
 
The Tk'emlups te Secwepemc First Nation said last month a preliminary scan had detected the remains of an estimated 215 children near the former residential school in Kamloops.
 
The discoveries have sparked public outcry for full transparency from clergy involved in the residential school system. 
 
The religious group had previously said it would release records pertaining to the institution in Kamloops, but Thursday's statement marked a "formal commitment" to "disclose and not block access" to records from all schools with which it was involved.

https://www.cbc.ca/n...ulate-1.6078260

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#495 spanky123

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Posted 26 June 2021 - 10:15 AM

^ Aah yes the Mohawk Institute, another one of Kevin Annett's 'discoveries' where he tried to pass off animal bones as human remains. GPR was already used to scan a part of the grounds and nothing was found.

 

Kamloops discovery reopens concerns about former Mohawk Institute (tworowtimes.com)

 

You don't have to have ESP to know that every couple of weeks we will get a report of more 'bodies' being found. The FN and their supporters will be motivated to keep this story in the forefront as long as they can.  With the 'evidence' produced being as weak as it is to date, they will need to rely on quantity rather than quality to convince people that there must be something to their claims. I trust that the Kamloops final report will be released on Wednesday and we will finally get to the bottom of what occurred there at least.



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Posted 26 June 2021 - 10:29 AM

news 1130:



Two Catholic churches burned down on First Nations land in Similkameen region

Two more Catholic churches on First Nations reserves in the Similkameen region have burned to the ground in early morning fires on Saturday. Chief Keith Crow, of the Lower Similkameen Indian Band, says St. Ann’s Church east of Hedley and the Lower Similkameen Indian Band church near Keremeos are destroyed. This comes after two churches were set on fire in Osoyoos and Penticton earlier in the week.

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Posted 26 June 2021 - 12:12 PM

that’s 4 churches burned to the ground now in one small part of BC.

no hate crime investigation?

can we lower flags for 4 days?



Father Thomas Kakkaniyil, the priest in charge of St. Gregory’s Church, said Sunday had been the first mass at the church in over a year — due to COVID-19. He said the church had daytime security for the mass, but there was no security overnight.

“Somebody from outside came and burned it as I understand it,” Kakkaniyil said. “It was done on the Osoyoos First Nation land but not by those people. It was somebody else.”


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suspects have already been excluded here. with no evidence.



typical:




Crow said the RCMP were investigating. Mounties have not yet returned calls asking for information about the investigation.

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#498 FawltyVic

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Posted 26 June 2021 - 09:07 PM

BONOKOSKI: The enslaving history of Mohawk icon Joseph Brant

 

https://torontosun.c...on-joseph-brant

 

 

 

Six Nations prepares to move forward with grounds search of former Mohawk Institute Residential School

 

https://www.aptnnews...dential-school/

 

 

 

What the TRC report tells us about the Marieval Indian Residential School

 

https://www.cbc.ca/n...chool-1.6078473

 

 

 

'People are hurt': Support line for residential school survivors overwhelmed with phone calls

 

https://www.ctvnews....calls-1.5487010

 

 

 

Cowessess First Nation places solar lights to illuminate 751 unmarked graves at former residential school site

 

https://www.theglobe...unmarked-grave/

 

 

 

Trudeau says Pope should apologize on Canadian soil for church's role in residential schools

 

https://www.reuters....ial-2021-06-25/

 

 

 

Priests ran the residential school at Cowessess. Now the pastor next door wonders, what now?

 

https://www.thestar....s-what-now.html

 

 

 

Trudeau expresses ‘openness’ to independent investigation of residential schools

 

https://www.theglobe...of-residential/

 

 

 

Letters June 26: Sisters of St. Ann and reconciliation; residential schools were about annihilation

 

https://www.timescol...tion-1.24335742

 

 

 

Iqaluit mayor wants land tax exemption on churches removed over residential schools

 

https://www.ctvnews....hools-1.5487184

 

 

 

Saskatoon Catholic cathedral covered with paint after discovery of 751 unmarked graves

 

https://www.cbc.ca/n...raves-1.6079950

 

 

 

Monument recognizing local residential school founders set to receive heritage designation

 

https://www.sootoday...gnation-3910645

 

 

 

Two Indigenous scholars read a history textbook chapter on residential schools. This is what they would change

 

https://www.thestar....uld-change.html

 

 

 

Thames Valley board lowers all flags to mourn residential-school 'genocide'

 

https://lfpress.com/...school-genocide

 

 

 

Religious group to release all records from Marievel, Kamloops residential schools

 

https://www.pqbnews....ential-schools/

 

 

 

Residential school discoveries: Caravan to Kamloops ‘in response to lack of justice’

 

https://globalnews.c...mloops-caravan/

 

 

 

Huntsville lowers flags indefinitely in honour of residential school victims

 

https://doppleronlin...school-victims/

 

 

 

Work begins on researching unmarked burials at Alberni residential school site

 

https://www.pqbnews....al-school-site/

 

 

 

Mississauga pastor resigns amid backlash over comments on Canada’s residential schools

 

https://globalnews.c...chool-comments/

 

 

 

Sisters of St. Ann agree to provide better access to residential school records

 

https://www.pqbnews....school-records/

 

 

 

Sask. advocates call for more support for residential school survivors

 

https://www.cbc.ca/n...ivors-1.6081641

 

 

 

Manitoba chief cancels Canada Day celebrations after Saskatchewan residential school burial findings

 

https://www.cbc.ca/n...chool-1.6079908

 

 

 

‘Who owns the land?’ Finding residential school graves predicted to be complicated

 

https://www.peacearc...be-complicated/

 

 

 

Calgary's Canada Day fireworks display could be changed in wake of new residential school discovery

 

https://calgary.ctvn...overy-1.5486204

 

 

 

Lasting impact of residential school system raised in sentencing of Abbotsford teenager's killer

 

https://www.cbc.ca/n...ncing-1.6080850


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#499 FawltyVic

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Posted 26 June 2021 - 09:35 PM

Bennett apologizes after linking JWR residential school tweet with pension eligibility

 

https://globalnews.c...-pension-tweet/

 

 

 

Statue of residential school priest taken down in Lebret, Sask.

 

https://www.cbc.ca/n...ebret-1.6076753

 

 

 

Siksika Nation planning search for remains at former residential school sites

 

https://globalnews.c...chool-searches/

 

 

 

Priest under fire after sermon on the 'good done' by Catholic Church on residential schools

 

https://www.cbc.ca/n...hools-1.6077248

 

 

 

Order's 'commitment to transparency' to include Manitoba residential schools

 

https://www.cbc.ca/n...orson-1.6081506

 

 

 

Kahnawake grieves after more unmarked residential school victim graves discovered

 

https://montreal.ctv...vered-1.5485041

 

 

 

Quebec government, Catholic oblates still haven't delivered key residential school records

 

https://www.cbc.ca/n...lates-1.6075344

 

 

 

Survivors call for demolition of former residential school in Birtle, Man.

 

https://www.cbc.ca/n...chool-1.6074748

 

 

 

Niagara Falls to be illuminated in orange in honour of residential school victims

 

https://www.blogto.c...school-victims/

 

 

 

62% of Albertans say they are not learning enough about residential schools: survey

 

https://globalnews.c...schools-survey/

 

 

 

Ottawa funds Saskatchewan First Nations to search unmarked residential school sites

 

https://paherald.sk....ol-grave-sites/


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#500 FawltyVic

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Posted 26 June 2021 - 09:54 PM

And for your amusement, Kevin Annett's legacy lives on. He sounds more potential terrorist than conspiracy theorist these days:

 

Republic of Kanata convener says its sheriffs will stop distribution of COVID-19 vaccines in Vancouver

 

https://www.straight...-19-vaccines-in

 

 

 

Fact Check-Debunking claims about disappeared school children in 1964 in British Columbia, Canada

 

https://www.reuters....a-idUSL1N2LM0VL


Edited by FawltyVic, 26 June 2021 - 09:55 PM.


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