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[dasmo]

You have such faith in “paper estimates” from scientists. I’m surprised you’re not more frightened by climate collapse. What’s that 12 years away now? 😛

[dasmo]

Yup, solid video:

https://youtu.be/O6V...FIl9VYRpNH-nnhS

But we will ignore it, of course.

it’s logical what he says. But we don’t have a policy of 100 fire suppression it’s called the "let-it-burn" policy. We let them burn unless they are a threat. He also doesn’t mention glyphosate.
Now watch this video https://youtu.be/W5C...gmFud6-m8YHRKRd

We spray even more now.

So I do agree our forest management sucks.

Edited by dasmo, 10 June 2025 - 05:46 AM.

[Victoria Watcher]

But we don’t have a policy of 100 fire suppression it’s called the "let-it-burn" policy. We let them burn unless they are a threat. 

 

Well, there is a big difference in practices between northwestern BC and Oregon, Washington State, California, West Virginia etc.

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 10 June 2025 - 05:49 AM.

[dasmo]

Sure but we were talking about here. And our let it burn policy has been in place for decades and yet we have similar fire issues.

[Mike K.]

Watch the video. Even just the first 5 minutes.

We have way MORE trees today than we did before euro contact. Way more.

It’s a video specific to one area of Oregon, no?

[Mike K.]

Is it preferable to have a uniform green look, from space?

I don't think so. I like the jobs and prosperity that come from harvesting lumber. It's a very renewable resource. Like any farming.

That’s what I’m saying.

I cannot imagine our forests were less green at the point of contact. The explorers made accounts of lush green forests as far as the eye could see, at least here on the coast.

On the BC interior it may be a very different story.

[Victoria Watcher]

Manitoba premier hints at using emergency powers to open up hotel rooms for wildfire evacuees





It's "pulling at the heartstrings when we see families with kids sleeping on cots in a hockey rink," he said.

"There's rooms in Thompson people could be accessing and I'd like to see those opened up. There's rooms in other parts of the province.… We're not talking about forever here."


[…]


Kinew said he hasn't heard feedback from any hotels declining to host evacuees, but that the province has "a lot of data" about the rooms that are currently occupied.




https://www.cbc.ca/n...kinew-1.7560200


Confusing story.

I suspect this is more about who might PAY for these hotel rooms. 80,000 evacuated from Fort Mac a few years ago and there was no real issues about accommodations. The problem is we have left natives on reserve destitute and isolated and now when they are moved they don’t have the means or connections to arrange for themselves.

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 13 June 2025 - 04:23 AM.

[Bambam]

I see E-C has now embedded a "Wildfire Updates...." feature into their weather page:

 

Victoria, BC - 7 Day Forecast - Environment Canada

[Mike K.]

Here’s an interesting calculation.

The big fire up in the northeast of BC has so far burned 190,600 hectares, or about 476,500 acres. An acre of burned forest emits 3,600kg of CO2.

Which equals 1.72 billion kg.

An average car emits about 85kg of CO2 per 500km.

1.72 billion / 85 = 20,235,000 cycles of driving 500km.

And that’s just one fire, burning for just over 1 month. There are a half dozen in BC alone of about that size, give or take.

[dasmo]

Nothing some added taxes can't fix! 

[Matt R.]

Burning wood is considered carbon neutral last I checked. Thankfully.

[LJ]

It's "pulling at the heartstrings when we see families with kids sleeping on cots in a hockey rink," he said.

 

Why is this pulling at heartstrings? Don't kids love to go camping with their parents? Consider my heartstrings unpulled.

[Matt R.]

Way off Vancouver island, but we were just in Jasper and took a good long look at the damage from last years wildfire.

Absolutely devastating to see in person. I’m sure like many of you, Jasper is a place I’ve visited on numerous occasions - anytime the opportunity came really - and the village has always been so nice to come and stay in.

Many blocks are just gone, with what appears to be little rhyme or reason as to what was spared. Some brand new looking houses have melted and distorted shingles on the roof. Otherwise they look totally normal. One house at the end of that block looks fine until you look at the back side, totally gone and covered in huge orange tarps.

One fellow, behind the blue fence “asbestos” sign and all, has set up his camper and stuck a garden hose in the roundabout for water. Hammock, birdhouses in the blackened tree, just cooking up some dinner on the rubble.

The commercial centre and school were spared, and the town was buzzing. Lots of folks just walking around the ruins taking it all in as well. One fellow said of the burnt down united church, “I slept in that basement on school ski trips as a kid”.

Gas station totally destroyed, previously something I’ve only seen on the news.

[Mike K.]

There’s a lookout above Lytton that gives you a good view of the town, too. But now it’s being rebuilt so you won’t see the destruction quite like it was.

So far, every wildfire on Vancouver Island this season has been human caused, including one discovered yesterday evening west of CR.

[lanforod]

There’s a lookout above Lytton that gives you a good view of the town, too. But now it’s being rebuilt so you won’t see the destruction quite like it was.

So far, every wildfire on Vancouver Island this season has been human caused, including one discovered yesterday evening west of CR.

Yikes, those humans need to be locked up in a psych ward.

[Mike K.]

It’s carelessness. Like I’ve said before, I’ve encountered smouldering campfires at vacant campsites in the hot weather.

50% of the population is below average intelligence.

[lanforod]

I do think maybe people need to understand what 'human caused' means - it just means it could not be confirmed as natural causes (i.e. lightning).

To me, the worst is cigarette caused. There is zero excuse for that.

Human caused by campfires is absolutely bad, and campfire safety should be practiced better, to be sure.

Many of these fires are accidental by other things, right? Sparks from various activity/vehicles, glass/mirror trash?

 

 

PS. Aye, absolutely its carelessness rather than carefulness when typing (and fixing things sneakily  ).

[Matt R.]

There’s a lookout above Lytton that gives you a good view of the town, too. But now it’s being rebuilt so you won’t see the destruction quite like it was.

So far, every wildfire on Vancouver Island this season has been human caused, including one discovered yesterday evening west of CR.

Don’t think I saw any rebuilding in town. Lots of demo happening but nothing new going up yet.

[Mike K.]

A lightning strike is a brutal, high energy event, and it happens in random spots, and can be cross referenced with weather data.

It boggles the mind to see what people do out in the wilderness. I’ll never forget the garbage and destruction left behind by Fairy Creek protestors. If that’s what you call land defending…

Now granted, I still have camping equipment and tools I pulled out of the woods that were left behind by the protestors. Perfectly good, in great condition, just ditched after a few uses. Once I cleaned them up they were good as new.

[Bambam]

I do think maybe people need to understand what 'human caused' means - it just means it could not be confirmed as natural causes (i.e. lightning).

To me, the worst is cigarette caused. There is zero excuse for that.

Human caused by campfires is absolutely bad, and campfire safety should be practiced better, to be sure.

Many of these fires are accidental by other things, right? Sparks from various activity/vehicles, glass/mirror trash?

 

 

PS. Aye, absolutely its carelessness rather than carefulness when typing (and fixing things sneakily  ).

 

This. We've encountered still smoldering butts in some incredibly remote camping areas on both the north island and north coast beyond Pemberton/Mt Currie. There is no excuse for that. None. It requires no effort at all to properly extinguish a cigarette. Human carelessness and laziness go hand in hand in these instances.