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#61 Mike K.

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Posted 30 March 2022 - 06:24 AM

Where was the last commonwealth games held? Nobody knows and cares.

99% of society couldn’t tell you where the last World Cup was held.

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#62 UDeMan

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Posted 30 March 2022 - 05:01 PM

the World Cup is on a different level than the Olympics or anything else you would ever see.    These are hard core fans that will spend an entire month in the country to watch their team play, follow them around and spend big money.  Other people may fly in just for a game. 

 

And if your country makes it to the final, which may never happen again, they will spend anything to go so them.

 

The last world cup was in Russia, and had a friend who is Croatian(not Marko) fly to Russia just to see the final.  



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Posted 30 March 2022 - 05:04 PM

It certainly is a big deal. It’s hard to know if money spent is ever recovered. In the grand scheme maybe it’s not that much money.

The Commonwealth Games are a joke.

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Posted 30 March 2022 - 09:02 PM

the World Cup is on a different level than the Olympics or anything else you would ever see.    These are hard core fans that will spend an entire month in the country to watch their team play, follow them around and spend big money.  Other people may fly in just for a game. 

 

And if your country makes it to the final, which may never happen again, they will spend anything to go so them.

 

The last world cup was in Russia, and had a friend who is Croatian(not Marko) fly to Russia just to see the final.  

 

I agree with all this, however I'm very skeptical the benefits will translate over to a continent wide, 16 host city, tournament. I'm not sure how many fans will be willing to shell out thousands on airline tickets to keep up to their team. For true benefit, it likely needs to be like Qatar or South Africa, very centralized, and take advantage of the infrastructure upgrades needed for decades to come. 



#65 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 31 March 2022 - 03:07 AM

I think each group will have all their games at nearby stadiums. And of course half the teams exit the tournament after the first round (3 games).

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Posted 31 March 2022 - 06:16 AM

It's also unlikely that Canada will host any of the "big ticket" games (i.e. England vs. Germany, Brazil vs. Argentina) that draw in the huge crowds. Those will likely be held in the major US stadiums. Not saying the games won't sell out in Canada, but I think it's more likely we'll see the Poland vs. Denmark or Japan vs Saudi Arabia games.  



#67 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 31 March 2022 - 06:20 AM

https://en.wikipedia..._FIFA_World_Cup

 



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Posted 31 March 2022 - 07:55 AM

Well, it's OK having the games, but why isn't there more revenue to pay for them?   From ticket sales and TV revenue.  The article says only $13M is provided by FIFA.

 

It seems to me that 55,000 at BC Place would generate over $22 million from tickets sales (average $400 per seat) per game.

 

Sure but only 40,000 would be sold as the rest would go to sponsors, politicians, athletes, media, etc as comps. 


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Posted 31 March 2022 - 11:26 PM

It's also unlikely that Canada will host any of the "big ticket" games (i.e. England vs. Germany, Brazil vs. Argentina) that draw in the huge crowds. Those will likely be held in the major US stadiums. Not saying the games won't sell out in Canada, but I think it's more likely we'll see the Poland vs. Denmark or Japan vs Saudi Arabia games.  

More important would be if Canada gets to play its own games on home soil.  If yes, sky's the limit on what those tickets will go for.



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Posted 01 April 2022 - 09:41 AM

CityNews Vancouver:

 

 

 

Canada (38th rank) slots into Group F, will play Belgium (2), Croatia (16) and Morocco (24) in Qatar

 

Canada's opponents will be Belgium, Morocco and Croatia in Group F action at the tournament. The Canadians will play Belgium to open the World Cup.

This is the first time a Canadian men's squad qualified for a World Cup since 1986 when they failed to win a match.


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#71 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 01 April 2022 - 09:48 AM

Group A: Qatar (hosts), Netherlands, Senegal, Ecuador

Group B: England, United States, Iran, Wales/Scotland/Ukraine

Group C: Argentina, Mexico, Poland, Saudi Arabia

Group D: France, Denmark, Tunisia, Peru/Australia/UAE

Group E: Spain, Germany, Japan, Costa Rica/New Zealand

Group F: Belgium, Croatia, Morocco, Canada

Group G: Brazil, Switzerland, Serbia, Cameroon

Group H: Portugal, Uruguay, South Korea, Ghana

 

 


Edited by Victoria Watcher, 01 April 2022 - 09:55 AM.

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Posted 02 April 2022 - 10:43 PM

^ thanks for this!

 

Wonder if the pubs here will get special dispensation to open at 5a.m. if that's when Canada has a game? (rhetorical question)


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#73 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 04 April 2022 - 03:45 PM

 

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Posted 04 April 2022 - 03:54 PM

So in real time (i.e. the Pacific time zone) that's

 

11 a.m. Nov 23

8 a.m. Nov 27

7 a.m. Dec 1

 

Got it - thanks! :)


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#75 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 04 April 2022 - 04:04 PM

And if things go as expected, you won't need to get up for the 7am game.   :wave:


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Posted 06 April 2022 - 12:42 AM

^ Oh the optimism...



#77 Mike K.

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Posted 14 April 2022 - 08:08 AM

From the province:

Melanie Mark, Minister of Tourism, Arts, Culture and Sport, has issued the following statement in response to FIFA’s recent announcement:

“I am encouraged that FIFA has confirmed Vancouver, British Columbia, as a candidate host city for the FIFA World Cup 2026. The FIFA World Cup is the largest single sporting event in the world. Hosting the event would be a once-in-a-generation opportunity for soccer fans, for our tourism sector and for all British Columbians. Last year, Canada Soccer’s women’s national team won a gold medal in Tokyo, last month our men’s national team qualified for a place at the FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022, a first since 1986 and, last week, world-champion Christine Sinclair took centre stage at the Celebration Tour, which was the biggest event at BC Place Stadium since the pandemic began. The stars are aligning for Canada Soccer, British Columbia and Vancouver. It’s time we showcase beautiful B.C. once again.

“We appreciate the opportunity to become a candidate host city and have worked hard with our partners to get to this first step. We want to recognize our partners, including the City of Vancouver, YVR, PavCo, Destination Vancouver and Destination BC, as well as the host First Nations. Partnerships are critical to hosting events of this magnitude and by working together we have been able to put our collective best foot forward for this bid. Our goal is, and always will be, to deliver the games in a way that maximizes benefits of this event for all British Columbians.

“B.C. and the rest of the world has been hit hard by the pandemic. The Premier has given me a mandate to support tourism and sport through recovery from the impacts of COVID-19. Hosting the FIFA World Cup 2026 would serve as a beacon for B.C.’s tourism industry, as it recovers from an incredibly challenging two years.

“More than 3.5 billion people watch the World Cup every four years. Becoming a host city and putting the global spotlight on B.C. would, once again, inspire travellers from around the world to come, stay and play. We have a world-class stadium, excellent training facilities and established infrastructure that meets FIFA hosting requirements, all of which make Vancouver particularly well equipped to host the event.

“Destination BC and BC Stats estimated hosting would bring in more than $1 billion in new revenue for B.C.’s tourism sector during and in the five years that follow the event, and there are tremendous benefits for individuals and communities alike. We expect this event to be a magnet for visitors to support local business in beautiful British Columbia.

“Major sporting events like this one have the power to inspire people to play, get involved and shine from the playground to the podium. These are gains that will echo in our families and neighbourhoods for the next generation and beyond.

“We have given it our best shot. We look forward to FIFA announcing the host cities in the coming weeks and are hopeful that Vancouver will be selected.”

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#78 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 14 April 2022 - 08:11 AM

Dubious financial claims at best. But it is what it is.

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#79 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 14 April 2022 - 10:45 AM

B.C. Place in Vancouver has been added as a proposed site in Canada to host matches at the 2026 World Cup along with Edmonton, Alberta, and Toronto.

FIFA made the announcement Thursday, nine months after Montreal dropped out when the Quebec provincial government withdrew its support.

https://www.nelsonst...p-location/amp/

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#80 Matt R.

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Posted 14 April 2022 - 10:52 PM

Vancouver is awesome if you are a millionaire.

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