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#3501 dasmo

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Posted 17 February 2024 - 07:58 AM

They will become the developer. Through the AAP process they will borrow billions and build whatever the big club wants. Same organization paying $10,000 to shoot a 🦌 But no money for roads, only more housing.

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Posted 17 February 2024 - 08:02 AM

They will become the developer. Through the AAP process they will borrow billions and build whatever the big club wants. Same organization paying $10,000 to shoot a But no money fire roads, only more housing.

 

Ya, perhaps the City will buy up some properties listed for sale.

 

Then ask developers for their best bid to build, then own and operate the requested housing.

 

ie. here is a 99-year land-lease, now tell us how much per month you can pay us.  Highest bidder gets the contract.


Edited by Victoria Watcher, 17 February 2024 - 08:03 AM.


#3503 Mike K.

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Posted 17 February 2024 - 09:02 AM

The government is becoming the developer, that is correct. Government funded agencies then operate what gets developed.

The simpler money now is building for government.

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Posted 17 February 2024 - 10:17 AM

Sounds like communism
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Posted 17 February 2024 - 10:51 AM

Only because it is.



#3506 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 17 February 2024 - 11:01 AM

Sounds like communism



Yup. Keep the people dependant.
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Posted 19 February 2024 - 09:44 AM

Perhaps the frankest panellist of all was Richmond Mayor Malcolm Brodie, who took aim at the province’s decision to override municipal zoning to allow multiplexes of up to four units in single-family neighbourhoods and six units if they’re near rapid transit.

 

“I’m not a fan of what the province has done,” he said. “I think we’re all agreed... that we need to provide more housing. But as far as I’m concerned, the answer is not to throw it open and have four- and six-plexes everywhere when there’s a whole raft of issues from neighbourhoods to parking to infrastructure.”

 

Like nearby Burnaby, Richmond has been channelling density on major arterials and transit hubs in a “very strategic and careful” manner, he added. Plus, the two big cities have been implementing in-house affordable housing strategies.

 

“As far as I’m concerned, we want to stay the course,” said Brodie. “The area of Steveston has nothing but small lots. If you put four, six units on all of those small lots, you’re going to absolutely destroy really a fine neighbourhood in our city.

 

“We will have to deal with the densification that is going to be decentralized and it’s going to be all over the city. So the effort to control the situation and to provide the services that we need is really limited.”

 

 

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Posted 19 February 2024 - 09:54 AM

This is what happens when all municipal planning originates from a cabal in Davos.


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Posted 19 February 2024 - 10:03 AM

We have a lot of examples of BC towns and cities either losing populations, maintaining populations, or slowly growing populations.

 

So we can study the impacts of those growth rates, in modern times. What positives are there with those growth rates? What are the negatives?

 

We do not have anyone, as far as I am aware, studying the positive impacts of the above. I'm not saying I agree with those growth rates, just pointing out we do not appear to be investing resources into understanding them better.


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Posted 19 February 2024 - 10:25 AM

We can ask the First Nations how it went for them.... 



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Posted 19 February 2024 - 10:28 AM

Everything was actually pretty good. Immigration was happening, we were trading, we were finding our place together here. Then the Cabal wanted the resources and started to implement legislation to reshape this land into their vision.... 

 

...we have been pampering and coaxing the Indians; that we must take a new course, we must vindicate the position of the white man, we must teach the Indians what law is; we must not pauperise them, as they say we have been doing.

1885 - JOHN A. MACDONALD

 

Now the extra irony is they are doing the same thing while the other side of the mouth is speaking about reconciliation for when they did it then. 



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Posted 19 February 2024 - 10:31 AM

Ok, there's that history, but what about contemporary times?

 

I'm referring to places like Port Alberni. What are the positives of their community, as it is today and has been since the 90s? What are the negatives? Growth there stalled out when the logging industry and fishing industry slowed down. But people still live there, move there, and so on.


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Posted 19 February 2024 - 10:51 AM

Sure but this isn't expanding underdeveloped areas or revitalizing ghost towns. This is uprooting established neighborhoods. It is a big difference. They want to increase density in densely populated areas without increasing infrastructure while decreasing democratic rights of self determination. 

 

Like all their projects it will have the opposite effect

 

You think anti-development is a thing now. It will only get worse because now people will need to fight. Now it will make developers look even more like the enemy. Now security will need to increase etc etc. 

 

Meanwhile no one will get more affordable housing. 


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#3514 Mike K.

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Posted 19 February 2024 - 10:53 AM

Yes, and it is happening because it is being promoted as the best thing for a community.

 

I don't think we have actually studied how a modern, stable population impacts a community.

 

What are the positives? We tend to only hear about the negatives. But with growth scenarios, we tend to only hear about the positives.


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Posted 19 February 2024 - 11:13 AM

...it is happening because it is being promoted as the best thing for a community...

As a result of edicts from half a world away, not from local, democratic input.



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Posted 19 February 2024 - 11:40 AM

Yes, and it is happening because it is being promoted as the best thing for a community.

 

I don't think we have actually studied how a modern, stable population impacts a community.

 

What are the positives? We tend to only hear about the negatives. But with growth scenarios, we tend to only hear about the positives.

Bezos make more money...



 



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