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North Saanich - OCP and rural character debate


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#1 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 19 December 2021 - 03:01 PM

I think that North Saanich should go ahead and remain rural.

That have Sidney nearby for their commercial needs, they do not need “village centres” at Deep Cove and McTavish.



“I don’t think that they necessarily represent the majority opinion,” he said, noting that making the OCP review a ballot question would give other residents a chance to be heard. “We are elected to make decisions in the best interest of the district and the people, and I take that responsibility seriously. As a long-time Green, I hear the hypocrisy of people who say ‘oh, we love agriculture.’ They don’t want agriculture. They want a pastoral setting to drive through.”

Residents of North Saanich, one of the richest Canadian communities by net worth, are split around their own interests, Weisenberger said.

“Those who want to keep us in 1983, look at what is happening at the Amazon site,” he said. North Saanich has a responsibility to provide good governance and that includes housing for those working on the Peninsula, he added. “When you are in a care home and you need your diaper changed or whatever, are you expecting people to drive from Langford or take public transit for an hour-and-a-half to service you? Where are those people going to live? Who is responsible for these decisions? We are!”



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#2 Mike K.

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Posted 19 December 2021 - 05:43 PM

Like I said in another thread, we are vilifying municipalities that build housing, vilifying municipalities that don’t build housing, and vilifying attempts to build more housing outside of municipalities in unincorporated areas.

It’s all pretty bonkers, isn’t it?

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#3 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 19 December 2021 - 05:48 PM

I just don’t think North Saanich is the “solution” to our housing “crisis”.

And those that want to age in place there can extract a million or two from their home equity to pay for a cab to Sidney once a week or a local person to change their diaper.

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Posted 20 December 2021 - 12:08 AM

> > As a long-time Green, I hear the hypocrisy of people who say ‘oh, we love agriculture.’ They don’t want agriculture. They want a pastoral setting to drive through.”


Far be it for me to defend farming. But can’t they like two things at once? Yes they quite like driving past the cows in the field, but they also like the concept of farming in the neighbourhood?

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Posted 20 December 2021 - 08:37 AM

Perhaps land that is good for farming be encouraged to be used for farming and land not so be used to accommodate other uses 

Including housing.



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Posted 20 December 2021 - 09:55 AM

It’s tough to split that out, as ALR lane encompasses such a large amount of land and the board doesn’t like releasing it. There are parcels in the ALR you couldn’t feed a goat on but the commission that oversees removal requests refuses to release them into the market housing pool where land restrictions are not as challenging (like one main domicile per ten acres the ALR wants).

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Posted 20 December 2021 - 11:39 AM

Isn't it a bit ironic when a municipality housing two major transportation hubs for the region states their primary planning objective is to retain rural character? Hard to have your cake and eat it too. 


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Posted 20 December 2021 - 12:12 PM

Was the daffodil farm ALR farm family split and development not a possible example even if a challenge?

 

Rural character has that been described or defined. On the N (National)  type roads in France because of the long history there  at times there are small communities, villages, 10 to 50 houses often less than 1 or 2km apart in what are considered rural areas.



#9 Mike K.

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Posted 20 December 2021 - 12:24 PM

Was the daffodil farm ALR farm family split and development not a possible example even if a challenge?

Rural character has that been described or defined. On the N (National) type roads in France because of the long history there at times there are small communities, villages, 10 to 50 houses often less than 1 or 2km apart in what are considered rural areas.

Oh there are plenty of examples, but it’s a real struggle, and typically results in ultra-low density in any case.

I can’t say I’ve heard of land from the ALR being taken out for apartments.

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Posted 20 December 2021 - 01:25 PM

Isn't it a bit ironic when a municipality housing two major transportation hubs for the region states their primary planning objective is to retain rural character? Hard to have your cake and eat it too. 

 

lol, airports are not often located in urban areas.



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Posted 20 December 2021 - 02:52 PM

Depends on how you describe urban There are a number of Canadian International airports closer to the city than YVR is to downtown. Some even in the city or metro area.



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Posted 29 January 2022 - 09:49 AM

A special council meeting scheduled for next Monday (Jan. 31) will consider the future of North Saanich’s Official Community Plan (OCP) review.

The meeting comes almost two months after council deferred key decisions around the OCP, including whether to approve additional funding for the review, the estimated cost for which is approaching $500,000.

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Prominent community voices, including former mayor Alice Finall, have said the municipality has had an “excessive focus on housing,” and expressed fears the OCP review will open up North Saanich to development out of touch with its perceived character as rural, agricultural community. A smaller, less vocal chorus say the community needs more density in select locations to improve housing affordability and reduce greenhouse gas emissions.

 

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