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#281 Stephen James

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Posted 22 January 2023 - 11:31 AM

I think the key would just be for developers to cut trees down now, and then claim illegitimate council process later. Rather than red-flagging now.

I'll bet, given the cluster-f this has proven as it plays out, that every interested developer has had an opinion from their lawyer.

And I'll bet that opinion is a cautious "go for it."


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#282 Mike K.

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Posted 24 January 2023 - 05:30 PM

Oops.

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#283 Stephen James

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Posted 25 January 2023 - 10:51 AM

Pullman's not the brightest light in the bubble pack... is it cruel to point it out?

 

Thanks for sharing! 


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Posted 08 February 2023 - 04:28 AM

Community First Langford spent a whopping $143,108 on its campaign last fall, but failed to get a single candidate elected, despite having almost all of Langford’s incumbent politicians. The newcomer Langford Now slate gave former mayor Stew Young the challenge of his career with its political campaign that cost almost $57,000, and succeeded in getting every one of its candidates elected.

 

Between its seven candidates of seasoned politicians, Community First Langford spent around $20,000 per person, mostly on signs, advertising, and professional services.

 

The elector organization, which was formed last year, collected donations from 128 people who gave an average of $1,114. (The maximum contribution allowed is $1,250.)

Langford Now had a slate of five all new candidates; it received donations from 116 people, with an average contribution of $359.

 

 

https://www.thewests...n-spending-2022


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#285 Mike K.

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Posted 27 February 2023 - 04:20 PM

Lillian Szpak’s daughter in law. Was this published anywhere?

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Posted 27 February 2023 - 04:25 PM

Decision has been out for a while.

 

2022 BCSC 2273 (CanLII) | Centurion Apartment Properties Limited Partnership v Loco Investments Inc. | CanLII

 

Perhaps this is why this case wasn't settled by the insurers as some speculated would happen earlier.

 

[16]      Construction of the Building was completed in early 2019.  DB Services did not obtain the professional liability insurance it was required to obtain under the DB Services Contract. 


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Posted 27 February 2023 - 06:47 PM

Another tidbit from the link above that I provide without comment.

 

[23]      Commencing at some time in 2018, concerns began to be expressed by a structural engineer unrelated to the parties (“Leon”) that there were defects in the structural design of the Building.  Those concerns resulted in an investigation being launched by the Association of Professional Engineers and Geoscientists of the Province of British Columbia (“EGBC”). 

 

[24]      As part of the EGBC investigation, Trilogy retained an independent structural engineering firm (“Stantec”) to conduct a preliminary review of Trilogy’s design of the Building.  Stantec’s report dated July 26, 2019 was provided to Trilogy that same day (the “Stantec report).  The Stantec report indicated that the Building’s core walls may be deficient under seismic load and that the structural detailing for some of the major seismic resisting elements may not be in compliance with the British Columbia Building Code (“Code”).  The Stantec report offered suggestions as to how the deficiencies on the lateral-resisting system could be reduced.

 

[25]      McKay was aware of the concerns that were circulating about the design of the Building prior to July 2019.

 

[26]      On July 26, 2019, upon receipt of the Stantec report, McClure sent an email to McKay and DB Services (and others) stating:

[…] As I mentioned before, we are confident that no remediation will be required for the building.  There are a few areas of the building that are non-code compliant, but there are no life-safety issues […].  We retained Stantec and their seismic specialist to review the building and they agree with our assessment, so I do not think Leon will have much in the way of rebuttal […].

 

[27]      Ultimately, the EGBC determined that the Building did not meet certain requirements of the Code. 

 

[28]      Centurion LP and Centurion GP were unaware of any concerns regarding defects in the structural integrity of the Building until December 2019, almost four months after the APS had closed.

 

[29]      On December 20, 2019, Langford revoked the occupancy permit for the Building on the basis that deficiencies in its design and structural integrity created risks to the safety of its residents.  All residents were required to vacate the Building.

 

[30]      McClure has now admitted that:

a)   the structural design of the Building was deficient;

b)   aspects of the seismic design of the Building did not comply with the Code;

c)   aspects of the design of the gravity load resisting system of the Building did not comply with the Code;

d)   the existence of such defects demonstrated incompetence on his part;

e)   he demonstrated unprofessional conduct by failing to undertake an adequate design process;

f)     he demonstrated unprofessional conduct with respect to the performance of field reviews;

g)   he should not have designed the core footings of the Building because he was not qualified to do so;

h)   no design reviews or independent reviews of any part of the design of the Building were conducted prior to its construction;

i)     the Building, as originally constructed, was not as safe as it was supposed to be;

j)     based on the objectives of the Code, the structural design of the Building presented an unacceptable risk to the safety of the residents of the Building; and

k)   some of the Building’s design defects had to be remediated to reduce the risk of the structure collapsing or failing to an acceptable level of risk.

 
 


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Posted 27 February 2023 - 06:52 PM

This is likely where the rumours about two other building in Langford also being investigated came from.

 

[11]      It is noteworthy that on that same day, February 16, 2017, DB Services entered into structural engineering services contracts with Trilogy for two other projects.  Each of those two contracts contained “Terms and Conditions” identical to those in the Trilogy Contract, including the clause limiting Trilogy’s liability.



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Posted 27 February 2023 - 06:56 PM

What about this appeal, that is being referred to, that the City lost?

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Posted 28 February 2023 - 03:36 AM

My understanding is this wasn’t an appeal but more of a trial management ruling.

It appears as though the defendant’s request to dismiss aspects of the claim have been rejected and they have been ordered to pay the costs of the motion.

Of interest is that the engineering firm at the heart of the problem have their liability limited to the fees that they charged which appears to leave DB Services and Langford on the hook for any award above that amount.
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Posted 01 March 2023 - 04:31 PM

Langford says years of ‘artificially low’ taxes have contributed to budget crunch

https://www.cheknews...crunch-1142707/

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#292 Mike K.

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Posted 01 March 2023 - 04:38 PM

After 30 years, five months into a fresh four year political term with a rookie council (save for one long-term councillor), there’s suddenly a budget crunch?
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#293 Nparker

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Posted 01 March 2023 - 04:39 PM

The standard response from every new government is to blame the previous administration for not being honest about the state of finances.  :whyme:



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Posted 01 March 2023 - 04:54 PM

Why does Langford suddenly need 27 additional firefighters? Instances of structure fires is decreasing, especially in new buildings.

#295 LJ

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Posted 01 March 2023 - 07:23 PM

Why does Langford suddenly need 27 additional firefighters? Instances of structure fires is decreasing, especially in new buildings.

Socialists don't like volunteers, it makes them look bad.


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Posted 01 March 2023 - 08:35 PM

No surprise here. This has been coming for years folks. Years of rampant development, both industrial, commercial and high rise have outpaced the predominantly volunteer FD's ability to provide its service. A Fire Dept is a huge tax burden. This should have been addressed over the past several years as Langford got more complex. This is not a result of the new council. As far as the YMCA. I remember when it first opened there was a lot of back slapping about some sort of partnership between the YMCA and Langford. Does anyone know those details of that arrangement? Seems like someone was caught napping.


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Posted 02 March 2023 - 04:58 AM

No surprise here. This has been coming for years folks. Years of rampant development, both industrial, commercial and high rise have outpaced the predominantly volunteer FD's ability to provide its service. A Fire Dept is a huge tax burden. This should have been addressed over the past several years as Langford got more complex. This is not a result of the new council. As far as the YMCA. I remember when it first opened there was a lot of back slapping about some sort of partnership between the YMCA and Langford. Does anyone know those details of that arrangement? Seems like someone was caught napping.

 

Did the new councilors campaign on this issue (higher taxes) if it has "been coming for years"?

 

 

 

 

 

 

Langford considers big tax hike: not enough firefighters, pool could close without bigger subsidy
Mayor Scott Goodmanson says the big-ticket expenses are coming after years of “artificially low taxes” set by the previous council

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#298 Mike K.

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Posted 03 March 2023 - 08:24 AM

Langford mayor is on CFAX right now, saying tax hikes were artificially low.

I’m surprised nobody is mentioning taxes were kept low over COVID.

Mayor Goodmanson says he doesn’t know the tax hike increase. He expects the tax rate will he known by the end of April.

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#299 Mike K.

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Posted 03 March 2023 - 08:25 AM

The mayor keeps blaming the former council.

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Posted 03 March 2023 - 08:26 AM

Langford says they need 27 new firefighters “now.” The mayor says because of new highrises, 36 firefighters have to attend. They currently have four available.

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