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#341 todd

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Posted 30 June 2022 - 08:50 PM

That is frightening, isn’t it? If these guys are playing around, man… what are they thinking?

Camouflage fashion is very 1997.

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#342 Mike K.

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Posted 30 June 2022 - 08:56 PM

Yeah, and very Saanich bank robbery 2022.
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Posted 30 June 2022 - 09:00 PM

VicPD says the man was stopped and no criminality occurred. Saanich PD say both men they were searching for gave also been cleared.

Not very smart, to dress up that way, after what just happened. It’s downright goofy, actually.

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Posted 30 June 2022 - 09:16 PM

Some people think it’s hipster

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Posted 30 June 2022 - 09:25 PM

Apparently it’s over, same people both incidents. Just a crime against fashion
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Posted 30 June 2022 - 09:38 PM

From Twitter...

 

The Big Pinch:

 

It was a pool stick
 
Thank you to the public for taking the extra precautions
 
Fortunately this was just a false alarm
 
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#347 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 01 July 2022 - 12:27 AM

This is true. So was there any briefing by the GVERT team leader whatsoever before they all arrived on scene?

Because arriving, and having 6 officers shot more or less right away, does not seem like a result you'd ever hope for when approaching a crime-in-progress scene.


A white van with bullet holes dotting the windshield was carrying members of the Greater Victoria Emergency Response Team during a deadly armed robbery and shootout in Saanich, police confirmed during a news conference Thursday.

The van was seen outside the Bank of Montreal branch where an exchange of gunfire took place Tuesday morning, killing two heavily armed suspects and injuring six GVERT officers. Three officers remain in hospital.

In video footage taken by a witness, the white van can be seen driving past a cluster of police officers already outside Fujiya Foods, a restaurant adjacent to the bank. Gunshots can be heard shortly after.

Saanich police Chief Dean Duthie told reporters Thursday that GVERT officers were already in the area Tuesday morning on an “entirely separate and unrelated investigation.”

“Given the high-risk, critical and high-priority nature of this report, GVERT immediately redeployed to the bank,” he said.


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#348 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 01 July 2022 - 01:46 AM

Looking at the facts we now know, does it appear that the GVERT made a serious tactical error in driving right into the parking lot, in a non-armoured vehicle?

Some police were already on-scene, near the Japanese restaurant.

A 911 caller inside the bank reported some 10 minutes earlier that the robbers were armed with long guns.

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 01 July 2022 - 01:47 AM.


#349 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 01 July 2022 - 02:34 AM

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#350 pontcanna

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Posted 01 July 2022 - 05:43 AM

Bank robbery shakes sleepy community in suburban Victoria

Globe and Mail, July 1, 2022

NANCY MACDONALD
SAANICH, B.C.


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Doug Scarr was enjoying a morning smoke on Tuesday when a Saanich officer on a BMW motorcycle screamed to a stop in front of his stoop on Pear Street.

“You – get over here!” the officer shouted, tossing his helmet to the ground as he walked toward Saanich’s Bank of Montreal at the corner of Pear and Shelbourne Street. It was around 11:15.

One block north, Nicole Novakovics was sitting at her Elm Street kitchen table, finishing up some work while her kids played in the basement. She heard the same officer: “You – over here! Now!” It was coming from the BMO, just behind her fence.

Another neighbour, one block to Ms. Novakovics’s north, saw a white Sprinter van come careening down the middle of the street, weaving through traffic, heading for Shelbourne Street.

“Pop! Pop! Pop!”

Chris Ford, who recently moved to the sleepy bedroom community north of Victoria with his girlfriend, Tracy, and her daughter, Eden, wondered why someone was setting off fireworks in the middle of the day.
 
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Sergio Elizalde, who grew up in Queretaro, in central Mexico, knew those weren’t fireworks.

Mr. Elizade lives directly across the street from the BMO doors and watched the bank robbers get shot.

When the shots rang out, Ms. Novakovics began screaming and ran for the basement: “They were so loud, it sounded like they were coming from the next room.”

Eden, Mr. Ford’s 10-year-old stepdaughter, cowered under the kitchen table with her mom, crying. “She felt like this was her last day – like this was the end,” says Mr. Ford. Their instinct was to get down. Mr. Ford’s was to run for the BMO.

Standing on Shelbourne, Mr. Ford saw the white Sprinter van turn into the BMO lot. A group of police officers and a German shepherd followed.

Mr. Elizalde probably had the best view of the two suspects.

From his yard, he could see that they were surrounded on two sides by a brick wall. There was nowhere to run. Some six metres separated them from police, who began moving in.

Mr. Ford had a better view of the officers than the suspects. He saw one get hit, then crumple to the pavement behind the Sprinter van.

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Moments later, Mr. Ford saw a second officer take a chest hit, then spin backwards from the force of the shot.

In the distance, he could see one of the gunmen take fire. “He kept jolting as he was hit with bullets. It was something straight out of a movie,” Mr. Ford said. “My stomach started spinning. As soon as the gunfire ended, I ran to get my family. I gotta get them out – that’s all I could think.”

Some time later, Ms. Novakovics heard an explosion. Police told her and her family to hide behind their house.
 
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Outside the BMO, the scene has yet to be cleared. Large pools of blood were left to dry in the lot, marking the spot where the suspects fell.

A steel mail slot outside the bank is riddled in dents from bullets. The brick is pockmarked with bullet holes.

Mr. Ford has only slept a few minutes since the shooting, and woke up screaming. When police allowed them to return home on Thursday evening, Eden refused to go. She’s been having panic attacks.
 
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“We’ll heal from this,” she says. “I don’t know what it will look like though. We’re still a long way from normal.”
 
 


#351 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 01 July 2022 - 06:10 AM

Cap Daily:


Meanwhile, witnesses reported new activity near the same area as the shootout—including police with guns drawn and a new shelter-in-place order for some residents as of approximately 5:30pm on Thursday.

"There are officers outside of my house with guns drawn and they've pushed back barricades further down Shelbourne," reported Christopher Lee Ford, who lives in the area.

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#352 Mike K.

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Posted 01 July 2022 - 06:13 AM

“Sleepy” Saanich.

What is wrong with this reporter? How are we supposed to trust anything she reports here when she can’t get a basic fact about the place they’re reporting on right.

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#353 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 01 July 2022 - 06:16 AM

I’m not sure she’s so far off the mark. “Saanich” doesn’t make the news very often, considering its size.

#354 Mike K.

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Posted 01 July 2022 - 06:20 AM

Except for two of the most widely reported on murders in this country, and now the highest number of police shot in any one incident, you’re right!

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#355 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 01 July 2022 - 06:25 AM

Abbotsford about the same size certainly outdoes Saanich for crime.

#356 Mike K.

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Posted 01 July 2022 - 06:28 AM

Does it make international news like Saanich crime does?

I don’t think so.

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#357 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 01 July 2022 - 07:29 AM

Except for two of the most widely reported on murders in this country, and now the highest number of police shot in any one incident, you’re right!


Oh, I agree. 2 dead and 6 wounded by gunfire in what might have been a preventable incident does not look good for Saanich. Or VicPD.

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#358 max.bravo

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Posted 01 July 2022 - 08:07 AM

Ok, Mike takes offence to ‘sleepy’ and VW has found a point to criticize police on. Good job boys.

Back to the rumor mill: I’m hearing from a friend in the ‘gun nut’ community that these guys had russian semi auto rifles (not illegal) with modified magazines (to hold more rounds- definitely illegal). Apparently the trunk had homemade bombs- lots of them.

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#359 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 01 July 2022 - 08:11 AM

Ok, Mike takes offence to ‘sleepy’ and VW has found a point to criticize police on. 

 

"A point"?

 

Two men dead.  Six police injured.  Three seriously enough that it might substantially alter the rest of their lives.  50 plus rounds fired in the middle of a weekday in a busy area.  Yes, I think we need place scrutiny on this operation.

 

I'm not blaming individual officers - yet.   I am wondering about the operational technique used here, under this circumstance.  The police said yesterday they met these guys "on the way out of the bank", as in they had left, and we now know (albeit in hindsight, yes) they had harmed nobody in the bank.


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#360 Mike K.

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Posted 01 July 2022 - 08:12 AM

The “sleepy” thing is part of the sensationalism narrative. It makes violent stories much more enticing.

It’s lazy, cliche journalism.

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