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[Belleprincess]

Not that it matters much, but does anyone know if there is validity to the rumour that the boys are actually triplets and they have a sister, Sabrina?

There is someone by that name who lives in Duncan

[todd]

But let’s theorize: it’s a rainy Sunday and all I have is time. I imagine victoria...

Gang of intergalactic AI units coerced the two so that their country could gain currency for when they send them more AI bots. They didn’t want to do it themselves because it would be too obvious they were AI if the mission was compromised.

[Belleprincess]

Gang of intergalactic AI units coerced the two so that their country could gain currency for when they send them more AI bots. They didn’t want to do it themselves because it would be too obvious they were AI if the mission was compromised.

You’re too far down the rabbit hole for me to comprehend what you’re saying

[Victoria Watcher]

It's always/often a bit interesting with these GoFundMe campaigns.

The goal here was $50,000. It's since be re-set to $100,000, but they continue to take donations as they now approach $110,000 raised.

I guess the police are just as greedy as anyone else.

[Barrrister]

123k is not going to go far if you have to modify a house for a wheel care.

[Victoria Watcher]

I’m mostly joking. But the brain trust between the two organizations spent 4 or 5 days getting it set up, and chose a $50,000 target.

Now that’s out the window.

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 03 July 2022 - 03:28 PM.

[Daveyboy]

We have a couple of people with life altering injuries in the best scenario and you are mocking the police as greedy?

[pontcanna]

Isaac A isn't afraid of a day's honest work on the farm:

 

[pontcanna]

Brothers in botched B.C. bank robbery had become angry and radical, obsessed with guns and ‘government tyranny’

theglobeandmail.com - NANCY MACDONALD

July 3, 2022

Mathew, left, and Isaac Auchterlonie, 22-year-old twin brothers from Duncan, B.C., are suspects in a case of armed robbery and shooting at a Saanich bank. 

A portrait has begun to emerge of Mathew and Isaac Auchterlonie, 22-year-old brothers from central Vancouver Island who were named Saturday as suspects in a botched robbery last week at a Bank of Montreal branch in Saanich, B.C.

As children, according to their closest friends, they were shy, a little nerdy and liked fantasy novels and Star Wars figurines. One was rarely found without the other. Following graduation, they seemed to drop off the face of the Earth, ghosting their former friends. According to one of the brother’s online footprints, he was becoming increasingly angry and radical, obsessed with guns, explosives and perceptions of government tyranny.

On a now locked Instagram profile, Isaac regularly made posts between 2018 and May of this year that showcased photos and videos of him holding or using various firearms, the models of which were often hash-tagged in the description of the posts.

Among the firearms frequently featured and identified on the profile were an M14 semi-automatic rifle, a Russian SKS semi-automatic rifle and a C7A2 assault rifle, which is a standard issue firearm for members of the Canadian military.

More than a dozen posts on Isaac’s Instagram featured what appear to be glorifications of violence toward state officials and police. These posts include media on the 1997 North Hollywood bank robbery attempt; the 1993 Waco siege, when federal officers took over a Branch Davidian religious compound in Texas; and clashes between the Irish Republican Army and British soldiers and police.

A handful of posts specifically targeted Prime Minister Justin Trudeau for his government’s recent move to ban the sale of handguns and for the implementation of vaccine mandates.

Justin Henry, who considered himself the Auchterlonie brothers’ closest friend throughout childhood, said he first met the pair in Grade 4 at Bench Elementary School in Cowichan Bay, B.C. The three shared a passion for Lego, Star Wars films and The Lord of the Rings trilogy, he said.
 

Mr. Henry and five other young men and women who spoke to The Globe and Mail said they were in fact triplets, with a sister rounding out the trio. They also had two older brothers.

Mr. Henry described the Auchterlonie brothers as “unbelievably smart.” He could always tell the two apart, but “they looked pretty well identical and used to get mistaken all the time.”

Both were “very quiet and very shy,” he said. Until high school at Frances Kelsey Secondary School, in Mill Bay, B.C., when they began branching out, they were like two peas in a pod: One was rarely seen without the other. “They looked out for each other. They were a team.”

A young woman who went to school with the triplets said the brothers were extremely shy, to the point of it being debilitating. When the two spoke, the young woman said, it was almost like they were whispering. In high school, she says, they were almost invisible.

Another young man who was close to the brothers grew up near them in Shawnigan Lake, rode the bus to school with them every day, and spent a lot of time in their home. He said the two were into shooting and hunting as kids. But he added that neither owning rifles nor sport shooting is uncommon on rural Vancouver Island. Like him, the brothers were bullied in middle school at George Bonner Elementary. Of the two, he says Mathew was slightly more assertive.

The Globe is not identifying the sources because of concern about their safety online.

The young man moved away after high school, losing touch with the Auchterlonies, but noticed the brothers’ Instagram pages had become increasingly politicized in the last few years, and focused on guns, shooting and wearing camouflage – to the extent that he found it concerning.

He in fact worried the brothers might do something drastic and violent. The thought they might become involved in a shooting once crossed his mind.

Mr. Henry also recalled seeing photos of the brothers in tactical gear. They often “dressed in camo,” adding they “liked blowing stuff up. That was their big interest.”

Isaac’s Instagram page shows a certificate for pre-reservist military training, but the brothers do not appear to have received formal training beyond this. Captain Amber Lawson, public affairs officer with the Cadets and the Junior Canadian Rangers, confirmed Sunday that there are no records indicating the Auchterlonie brothers were cadets.

Sometime after graduation, the brothers began drifting away from friends, becoming increasingly isolated, Mr. Henry and several other friends of theirs recalled. Mr. Henry said he hadn’t spoken to either brother in a few years. “Something had to have happened to have made them do something like this. They were really good kids,” he said, adding that he had a hard time wrapping his head around what happened last week.

The Saanich Police Association and Victoria City Police Union launched a GoFundMe campaign to raise money for the officers wounded in the shootout and their families. By Sunday evening, it had raised more than $124,000.

 

More: https://www.theglobe...ry-and-radical/

 

[pontcanna]

Still zero on the senior Auchterlonies. We only know they had 5 kids. Some/all living at home? Property? Employment/family business perhaps?

[pontcanna]

Tonight on CHEK. Mostly reiterating what we already know.

 

‘I was speechless’: Former classmate of Saanich bank shooters speaks out

 

A former high school classmate of Isaac and Mathew Auctherlonie says she was shocked to hear that the twin brothers were involved (in the shootout).

CHEK News spoke to one former classmate of the twin brothers on the condition of anonymity. The woman says she had classes with the brothers and was in their graduating class. She described the two as ‘very shy.’

“They tended to just keep to themselves and not really mingle that much. I think in the later years of high school they did branch out a little bit more and make a couple of friends,” said the woman.

The woman was nearby as the events unfolded on Tuesday and felt shocked after learning that the Auctherlonie brothers were responsible.

“It felt like very, quite literally, close to home because what are the chances that it happens so close to my home and then I actually know the people,” said the woman.

She tells CHEK News that she wasn’t close with the two and that the brothers mostly kept to themselves, adding that she didn’t keep in contact with them post-graduation.

“When I had thought back in retrospect, it was a little bit more unsurprising. Just because they kinda, almost had the mannerisms, of, you know the stereotypical shooter in the U.S.,” said the former classmate.

BC RCMP say there’s no evidence to show that the two were part of any crime or extremists organizations, but they are continuing to examine the possibility.

 

More: https://www.cheknews...ks-out-1056765/

 

[Mike K.]

That particular BMO branch appears very California-like, and in an area that could pass for the valley in LA.

And they drove a white sedan. The North Hollywood shooters also drove a white sedan.

[pontcanna]

Owner of business near Saanich bank shooting alarmed to find bullet hole in window

Businesses around the area of Tuesday’s deadly shooting are getting back to business after a tumultuous few days.

Squeaky’s Laundromat was one of those businesses that was required to be closed by police. Once the initial investigation ended, it came to much of owner Edward Park’s surprise that investigators found a bullet had hit his business.

 

 

“It was terrifying for me and my employees to find out that a bullet went through our laundromat,” said Park.

Park doesn’t know if it was one of the two suspects or police who fired into his businesses, but he’s grateful no one who was in Squeaky’s Laundromat at the time was hurt.
 

Edward Park

 

“We were closed for the past five days and we lost a lot of sales,” said Park.

Squeaky’s Laundromat wasn’t the only nearby business that had to shut down. Cloud Nine Cannabis was also forced to close, leading to a sales decrease of 30 to 40 per cent. Despite the scene cleared up at the bank, floor manager Gabriel Christie says some employees are still very much traumatized by what they witnessed.

 

 

Gabriel Christie

The Bank of Montreal where the crime scene took place has also re-opened. Business owners and residents surrounding the area hope something like this won’t happen again.

 

More: https://www.cheknews...window-1056767/

 

[silentfoto]

We've heard nothing from bank interior participants apart from Shelli F.

Why did the robbers wait so long to exit?

The burning question.

Even the investigators seem puzzled.

Robbers lost their car keys? Someone legged it?

 

Certainly suggests the twins had a problem with reaching car pre-gunfight.

And what a vehicle to do a robbery in - a white 30yr old car with racing stripes!

Does enforce their ineptitude. A tandem bicycle would have been a better getaway mode.

 

Passed by Shelbourne BMO today.

Man, that parking lot is smaller up close.

Shooting range is less than length of my living room.

We also know at least one bullet made it over to the laundromat.

Hmm.

 

Not a victory for anybody involved. All rather sad. And now legend.

[Victoria Watcher]

We have a couple of people with life altering injuries in the best scenario and you are mocking the police as greedy?

I already said I’m joking.

[Victoria Watcher]

That particular BMO branch appears very California-like, and in an area that could pass for the valley in LA.

 

It sure could, including that massive single-slope roof.

[Mike K.]

Couple that with the white sedan and you’ve got a copycat scene, for sure.

[Belleprincess]

We've heard nothing from bank interior participants apart from Shelli F.
Why did the robbers wait so long to exit?
The burning question.
Even the investigators seem puzzled.
Robbers lost their car keys? Someone legged it?

Certainly suggests the twins had a problem with reaching car pre-gunfight.
And what a vehicle to do a robbery in - a white 30yr old car with racing stripes!
Does enforce their ineptitude. A tandem bicycle would have been a better getaway mode.

Passed by Shelbourne BMO today.
Man, that parking lot is smaller up close.
Shooting range is less than length of my living room.
We also know at least one bullet made it over to the laundromat.
Hmm.

Not a victory for anybody involved. All rather sad. And now legend.

We know why they were waiting for so long. They weren’t there to rob the bank

[Mike K.]

This year is also the 25th year anniversary of the North Hollywood shooting. It happened February 28th, ours happened June 28th.

Could they have been planning a February 28th robbery, but it didn’t pan out?

[todd]

We know why they were waiting for so long. They weren’t there to rob the bank

you know?

Lot of money in the timer safes, different currencies, what people deposited that day, etc


Did they close the bank during the robbery? Likely more people tried to enter the bank during that time span? If they waited for a bit they only have to rob one bank instead of 10