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[Mike K.]

Here is a primer for David Eby’s housing plan for BC: https://vancouversun...creased-density

Key points to consider:

- density targets for each municipality, which if not met, would allow the province to override municipal “nimybism”
- legalized duplexes province-wide
- three-plexes permitted in urban centres where single-family zoning is in place (presumably duplex zoning, too)
- “flipping tax” that decreases through 2 years post-possession
- right of first refusal for non-profits to buy rental complexes before REITs have access
- $500 million towards tenant anti-displacement efforts, to prevent or address renovictions
- no more rental restrictions for stratas
- stratas can’t enforce child/age restrictions below 55+ communities

[Barrrister]

Loves spending taxpayers money.

[lanforod]

Wonder what Seb thinks of the second last point... helpful for selling finally?

[Mike K.]

On Twitter, the three-units are being heralded as a victory for missing middle.

So what exactly is missing middle? If it’s three units, was it ever really missing to begin with? Most of us grew up with friends who lived in multi-plex housing. I lived in such a home. That same housing exists today, you just can’t “see” it from the street as #missingmiddle.

[spanky123]

Here is a primer for David Eby’s housing plan for BC: https://vancouversun...creased-density

Key points to consider:

- no more rental restrictions for stratas
 

 

So we can have Airbnbs?

 

BC Housing constructs all of these units which then operate at increasing large losses year over year as rents remain below the rate of tax and inflation increases. The increasing tax burden just gets paid from the Health budget then?!

[dasmo]

Authoritarian with a touch of socialism. 

Plus if you really look at it none of this is going to make anything more affordable. 

 

Here are some options that are within their control that might. 

 

-Have a $500 million fund to help build student housing on school properties with income going towards a special student housing fund. Student housing would free up a lot of places... 

-Stop sending letters to every household telling them their house is worth $250,000 more this year.

-Lobby the federal government to temporarily cut immigration numbers until the housing crisis is under control.

-Temporarily ban non resident purchasing of residential property.

-Look at the step code and make allowances for low embedded energy building so it can be possible to build affordably. 

 

OR make the minimum wage $50/hour.... 

Edited by dasmo, 29 September 2022 - 08:26 AM.

[Victoria Watcher]

I presume he means new stratas will have no rental restrictions? Surely he’s not going after existing ones? Surely that would end in a lawsuit.

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 29 September 2022 - 08:26 AM.

[Victoria Watcher]

A crucial part of his plan includes removing strata restrictions on rentals.

Currently, the B.C. government says that some strata corporations have in place a rental restriction bylaw.

This includes limiting “the number or percentage of residential strata lots that may be rented or limit the length of time the residential strata lots may be rented.”

If elected, Eby says that he would remove the strata bylaw. This would also block strata’s from banning rentals.

Except for seniors, this would prevent setting age limits, like residents must be 19 or older to live in the building — which stops families with children from moving in, and causes residents to move out if they have a child.


https://vancouver.ci...ing-crisis/amp/




What an asshat.

Typical socialist. Instead of letting people manage their own affairs he wants to make everyone live miserably.

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 29 September 2022 - 08:31 AM.

[sebberry]

Wonder what Seb thinks of the second last point... helpful for selling finally?

 
no more rental restrictions for stratas
stratas can’t enforce child/age restrictions below 55+ communities

 

 

Depends - I'm looking at ~30k in special assessments shortly so that's 30k less to spend on a new place.  The price difference may still well put something suitable out of reach.

 

My thoughts on the removal of strata rental restrictions? Let's hope its retroactive and not just for new builds.  Reasonable uses of ones home should always be permitted.  If there are unwanted effects that may arise from such use, regulate and enforce that.  You don't ban rentals because you think there might be noise, noise can happen regardless of the occupant, you enforce your noise bylaws.

 

We have a commercial unit in my building, effectively has veto power over every bylaw change.  The owner opposed a change to the rental bylaw on the basis that he's concerned more mess might be left around the property, mess that's entirely attributable to the nearby park encampment. Reason and logic goes out the window when you base your position on retaliation.

[Jacques Cadé]

On Twitter, the three-units are being heralded as a victory for missing middle.

 

Really? In the City of Vancouver, sure, but only maybe for advocates in Saanich, Esquimalt, Oak Bay, etc. because much depends on what Eby considers a "major urban center". Another take could be that Eby's proposal suggests the City of Victoria's proposed six units on every lot was massive overreach. This opens the door for MMHI opponents and Council candidates to say Eby's plan is sufficient, and the City's stalled plan is unnecessary.

Edited by Jacques Cadé, 29 September 2022 - 09:04 AM.

[spanky123]

Really? In the City of Vancouver, sure, but only maybe for advocates in Saanich, Esquimalt, Oak Bay, etc. because much depends on what Eby considers a "major urban center". 

 

Any bets the definition closely aligns with the vested interests of those making the decision?! (ie like the vacancy tax)

[sebberry]

A crucial part of his plan includes removing strata restrictions on rentals.

Currently, the B.C. government says that some strata corporations have in place a rental restriction bylaw.

This includes limiting “the number or percentage of residential strata lots that may be rented or limit the length of time the residential strata lots may be rented.”

If elected, Eby says that he would remove the strata bylaw. This would also block strata’s from banning rentals.

Except for seniors, this would prevent setting age limits, like residents must be 19 or older to live in the building — which stops families with children from moving in, and causes residents to move out if they have a child.


https://vancouver.ci...ing-crisis/amp/




What an asshat.

Typical socialist. Instead of letting people manage their own affairs he wants to make everyone live miserably.

 

Stratas can be a hugely invasive and restrictive form of local government and their rules can have a far greater impact on individuals than municipal policies and we know how much of a mess that can be.  It's time Eby stepped in to make sure the kids can play nice in the sandbox.

[Victoria Watcher]

But collectively you manage your own strata. And decide prior to buying in if you like it.

[spanky123]

Stratas can be a hugely invasive and restrictive form of local government and their rules can have a far greater impact on individuals than municipal policies and we know how much of a mess that can be.  It's time Eby stepped in to make sure the kids can play nice in the sandbox.

 

Granted there can be jerks in any form of governance. The premise of a democracy is that people get to choose their own leaders and that those leaders then set rules that benefit the group. If a majority of people think their leaders are chumps then they can vote in new ones.  What Eby seems to be suggesting is that strata owners should no longer have the right to choose their own leaders and establish their own rules and instead the NDP should do that for them. 

 

Why stop at stratas, there are jerks in municipal governments as well. Why not get rid of those too? Actually, why should the Provincial NDP get to make the decisions, why not have the Feds do it or perhaps even a bunch of billionaires who own the media and tell us what to do anyways!

Edited by spanky123, 29 September 2022 - 09:29 AM.

[Victoria Watcher]

Exactly. Like a true socialist. Lenin would be proud.

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 29 September 2022 - 09:32 AM.

[Mike K.]

Really? In the City of Vancouver, sure, but only maybe for advocates in Saanich, Esquimalt, Oak Bay, etc. because much depends on what Eby considers a "major urban center". Another take could be that Eby's proposal suggests the City of Victoria's proposed six units on every lot was massive overreach. This opens the door for MMHI opponents and Council candidates to say Eby's plan is sufficient, and the City's stalled plan is unnecessary.

Twitter Housing seems to think so. Eby is no jokester, one vocal account says. Follow this exchange and you’ll see how even ardent MM advocates who we think know what they’re talking about, are unable to figure out what MM is, and what it isn’t . Here’s the full exchange: https://twitter.com/...Ax5bi2EHQr_b_qw

We delve into what constitutes missing middle. And then things go sideways.

[Victoria Watcher]

Not very many houses can be easily converted to “three unit dwellings”. The third unit will be detached (garden suites).

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 29 September 2022 - 09:34 AM.

[sebberry]

Granted there can be jerks in any form of governance. The premise of a democracy is that people get to choose their own leaders and that those leaders then set rules that benefit the group. If a majority of people think their leaders are chumps then they can vote in new ones.  What Eby seems to be suggesting is that strata owners should no longer have the right to choose their own leaders and establish their own rules and instead the NDP should do that for them. 

 

In a strata, it's not the elected council that makes the decisions like it is with municipal politics.  All it takes is one stuck, fearmongering holdout to prevent a change a marjority of owners want.

[dasmo]

Classic misdirection. No one cares about the forms... We have the missing middle forms everywhere already. 

The opposition is thus:

 

1. The removal of community rights to have a say in what is built in their established communities.

2. The upheaval of established neighbourhoods character and functionality.

3. The potential for it to make housing more expensive by making every property a development opportunity.

4. The potential that it will replace existing low cost inventory like suites and rooms for rent with new and unaffordable places. 

5. The undemocratic fast track process that was attempted in implementing MMH.

[spanky123]

^ And it is no coincidence that developers have been pouring money into candidates who support MM even though apparently they will make nothing from it!