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#61 Matt R.

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Posted 02 October 2022 - 12:04 PM

Sure they can but they don't.  They just complain about the climate while flying around in their private jets, encouraging growth and basically doing all of the things they tell others not to!


I am here with someone from the American southwest who is deeply committed to environmental causes and such. Flew from Arizona to Norway to visit a friend and then on to Switzerland to celebrate the 90th birthday of this building. I had to bite my tongue during their presentation today.

#62 Mike K.

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Posted 02 October 2022 - 12:57 PM

Canadians each use 2700 litres per day (this includes industry). Germany about 850.


We have an amazing quality of life here, indeed.

That’s why more Germans want to live in Canada than vice versa.

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#63 Mike K.

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Posted 02 October 2022 - 12:58 PM

I am here with someone from the American southwest who is deeply committed to environmental causes and such. Flew from Arizona to Norway to visit a friend and then on to Switzerland to celebrate the 90th birthday of this building. I had to bite my tongue during their presentation today.


Yeah.

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Posted 03 October 2022 - 11:27 AM

We have an amazing quality of life here, indeed.

That’s why more Germans want to live in Canada than vice versa.

 

It used to be that Canada was much more affordable!



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Posted 03 October 2022 - 12:00 PM

^ Is that because of supply and demand? ie immigration?

#66 Love the rock

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Posted 03 October 2022 - 01:38 PM

Can we build our way out of this in any established cities ? I know nothing about the construction business maybe I’m missing something. Please tell me if I am . One only has to sit on any Vancouver skytrain and look see that over building condos, townhouses ,Vancouver specials has done nothing to ease the rents or housing shortage in Vancouver. Parking wars ,no matter what you build, destroy ,rebuilding  with no guarantee the people already in an area  find a  home .How about restricting foreign ownership in certain areas like other popular tourist  destinations have . Why do we appear afraid to do this . I’m not against building I also can’t stress balanced solutions  enough . Please don’t turn Victoria into a mini Vancouver. To me Vancouver has been a science experiment gone drastically wrong in more ways than one .  

 



#67 dasmo

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Posted 03 October 2022 - 01:48 PM

First we need to dig ourselves out of our reliance on building. How much of the other industries are also based on building and housing?  Immigration is happening to prop this up and keep it going.... 

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#68 Nparker

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Posted 03 October 2022 - 01:53 PM

Perhaps Canada needs to seriously look at limiting immigration if we want to make any meaningful progress on the the so-called housing crisis.

...Despite the pandemic, Canada reached record numbers in 2021 with over 405,000 people becoming permanent residents. For 2022, Canada has recently released a revised target of over 432,000 immigrants and even higher numbers in 2023 and 2024...

https://www.cicnews.....html#gs.dxgr1f

 


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#69 spanky123

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Posted 03 October 2022 - 02:43 PM

^ I have no issues with immigrants but doubling immigrant over the past 5 years with no plan to construct additional housing is what has caused the unaffordability crisis.


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#70 JimV

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Posted 03 October 2022 - 03:46 PM

Anyway, for better or for worse, Ebey’s zoning plan would seem to have rendered the MMI concept moot.  Maybe the next council can concentrate on fixing the potholes, stuff like that.


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#71 Sparky

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Posted 03 October 2022 - 08:58 PM

^ I’m going with worse.

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#72 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 04 October 2022 - 05:33 AM

Don’t worry about condo suite rentals

Fretting is misplaced over NDP leadership candidate David Eby’s intention to require condominium corporations to allow condominium suite and condo townhouse owners to rent their home to a tenant.

 

https://www.timescol...th-care-5905648

 

In Alberta, for example, provincial law has always guaranteed that condo property owners may be landlords. In 15 years as a condo-specialist real-estate agent there I never heard of a condominium building in crisis because of this.

 

What I did hear was that suite owners could earn revenue while they worked or had to relocate elsewhere, that condo construction was facilitated by pre-sales to investor buyers, and that tenants had more rental options.

 

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Posted 04 October 2022 - 05:34 AM

Small-, medium-sized landlords might be forced out

David Eby’s plan to increase housing is a noble goal from a decent man, but there are a couple of flaws in it.

 

First, the Residential Tenancy Branch is unable to process disputes in a reasonable time. It is a critical agency and needs an overhaul badly.

 

Secondly, if rental rises are kept below inflation level, or frozen at levels from 15 years ago, landlords need a break from rising municipal taxes, at least, in order to keep on functioning. This should be part of the discussion with the Union of B.C. Municipalities.

 

If B.C. expects property owners to take a loss every month for the benefit of tenants, small and medium landlords will just give up and sell up, or switch to short-term rentals, which is already happening, and will seriously undermine the plan.

 

 

https://www.timescol...th-care-5905648



#74 Mike K.

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Posted 04 October 2022 - 06:06 AM

But Minister Eby says we have to tackle large corporations buying up housing. Won’t that just push more housing their way, if what the letter writer says could happen?

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Posted 04 October 2022 - 07:23 AM

But it's OK if that large rental corporation is the government.

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Posted 04 October 2022 - 08:13 AM

Anyway, for better or for worse, Ebey’s zoning plan would seem to have rendered the MMI concept moot.  Maybe the next council can concentrate on fixing the potholes, stuff like that.

 

Eby is only talking triplexes while MM wants up to 12 units on a single lot.



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Posted 04 October 2022 - 08:23 AM

Eby is only talking triplexes while MM wants up to 12 units on a single lot.

 

I am still trying to figure out how to build a triplex within the footprint of an existing SFH and stay within height restrictions.

 

"Homebuilders in major urban centers will be allowed to replace a single family home with up to three units on the same footprint, as long as they are consistent with existing setbacks and height requirements."



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Posted 04 October 2022 - 08:25 AM

I am still trying to figure out how to build a triplex within the footprint of an existing SFH and stay within height restrictions.

 

"Homebuilders in major urban centers will be allowed to replace a single family home with up to three units on the same footprint, as long as they are consistent with existing setbacks and height requirements."

 

Basement / main / upper.  


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#79 Mike K.

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Posted 04 October 2022 - 08:26 AM

Two units on level one, a third larger unit on level three could work. But it’s going to be expensive, no affordable housing there.

Take note though, that MM supporters do say the three units is MM. So why did Victoria have to go up to six on the footprint of one house, raise height limits, expand footprint to 94% of the lot, then ultimately lose the plot when the public caught on? Kelowna was referenced as a great example of MM, but they did it in a way that was palatable. Victoria went to the extreme.
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#80 dasmo

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Posted 04 October 2022 - 08:28 AM

But it's OK if that large rental corporation is the government.

True, Our government is a corporation so well spotted. 


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