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#1 Icebergalley

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Posted 03 April 2007 - 09:17 AM

In Todays Globe and Mail..

It's mostly a matter of sound... beyond the standards set in Victoria's By-law.. and a bit of turf concerns... and a bit of....

Victoria tones down marimba ensembles
SHANNON MONEO

Special to The Globe and Mail

VICTORIA -- Mallet-wielding xylophone players have struck a discordant note in staid downtown Victoria.

Since Jan. 1, the city's revised entertainment licence has limited the size of ensembles that perform on the streets to five and prohibits performances by loud groups until 5:30 p.m. on weekdays.

Two, three or even four genteel violinists or placid guitarists will still be able to strum their stuff on any day from sunrise to sunset, but the marimba ensembles (the marimba is an African or Central/South American-style xylophone) will have to wait until the office workers have cleared out.

Time restrictions don't apply to weekends and holidays.

"It's almost like they're zeroing in on marimba bands," said Patricia Brown, a member of Chikoro Marimba, a 10-person band based in Metchosin, about 20 kilometres from downtown Victoria. "It's very disappointing."

This year, when Chikoro hits the streets of Victoria, it will be forced to play in two shifts of five people on weekends.

A second marimba band, Victoria-based six-person Jambanja Marimba, will limit itself to five musicians.

Last year, the city received a multitude of gripes, primarily from businesses and office workers, said City of Victoria bylaw inspector Earl Garner.

"It's hard to try to type a document and some bonging is going on," he said.

Business owners said the marimba bands and their appreciative audiences blocked access to their stores. Addled office workers had to endure pulsating melodies wafting off the sidewalk.

Solo guitarists or string duets sang the blues about being drowned out by the undeniably loud marimba bands, and some tourists didn't like having to detour around the bouncy xylophone players and their swaying fans.

Victoria's downtown co-ordinator, Mike Hill, said marimba bands are not being targeted, even though they are almost exclusively the only ensembles featuring more than five musicians.

What prompted revisions to the entertainment licence, which did not require council approval, was the desire to manage loud bands.

"It gives acoustic musicians who are quieter a chance," Mr. Hill said.

Words have been exchanged between Chikoro and solo musicians who complained about Chikoro's loud tunes, Ms. Brown said.

And last year, Chikoro was forced to move after a clothing retailer complained that the band was blocking access to the store.

But some businesses welcome Chikoro because of the potential customers the group attracts, Ms. Brown said.

She admits her band is loud, but on the flip side, it brings a vibrant ambience to the streetscape.

"We're a free party on the street," the former Montessori schoolteacher said.

When Mr. Garner received noise complaints last year, he went out and measured the decibels and found that groups with six or more people -- marimba bands -- exceeded the city's noise bylaw.

So, city staff sat down to amend the annual $10 entertainment licence that all street performers must have.

A maximum of five performers was established because "basic bands" often have five members, Mr. Garner said.

"To me, it's an easy fix," he said.

But a five-piece brass band can generate a lot of oomph. In that case, Mr. Garner would measure the sound and silence the tubas or issue a $100 ticket if the city's noise bylaw was broken.

A popular venue for the marimba bands is Government Street, a high-traffic, touristy section of downtown Victoria running six blocks from the popular Inner Harbour up to roughly Yates Street.

Chikoro, with members aged 15 to the mid-50s, has been setting up once a week on Government Street for the past two years, from May to September.

Depending on the traffic and weather, Chikoro's earnings could range from $90 to $400 for a two-hour performance, the maximum playing time allowed in one location.

The street's popularity caused a turf war last year when Chikoro and Jambanja both wanted the area in front of 910 Government, which has a wide sidewalk and stairway for audience seating.

Jambanja's leader, Melissa Chigamba, said her band needs an audience-friendly location.

"This is what we do for a living," the multi-instrumentalist said.

Last year, the six-person Jambanja played about eight times a week from April to October, collecting between $350 and $400, plus earning several hundred dollars more from CD sales.

What's affected Jambanja more than the five-person limit is the new rule outlawing performances during Monday-to-Friday office hours. The band collected most of its money from Thursday and Friday afternoon shows.

Ms. Chigamba has asked for permission to play during a weekday afternoon.

Mr. Garner, who was also asked by Chikoro to waive the five-person limit, said he can't bend the rules, but he did add that other possible venues outside of the "problem area" Government Street strip are being considered for large bands.

The City of Victoria issues about 220 entertainment licences each year.

So far, about 80 licences have been bought for 2007, said Mr. Garner, one of five City of Victoria bylaw and business-licence inspectors, and the only one responsible for street performers.

A big rush is expected in a few weeks once cruise ships start arriving and the weather gets warmer.

The effect of this year's changes will be evaluated and could be revised next year, Mr. Hill said.



#2 G-Man

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Posted 03 April 2007 - 09:30 AM

What is going on in this city????!!!!!

I mean is their a deliberate effort from inside city hall to make the city less vibrant????

We need less restrictions on busking and street vendors not more.

That group gets the biggest crowds of anyone.

I just don't get and am kind of sad.

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#3 Holden West

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Posted 03 April 2007 - 09:32 AM

Also the Peruvian bands drive some office workers nuts. They know their playlists by sheer repetition. BTW, just about every major city in the world has an identical Peruvian band
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#4 G-Man

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Posted 03 April 2007 - 09:36 AM

I don't care if does drive the workers nuts! If you allow life into a city eventually you just get used to it.

Enough of the BAh HUMBUG CITY!

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#5 Holden West

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Posted 03 April 2007 - 09:48 AM

So you wouldn't mind hearing this five times a day out your office window? Click. I dare you.

http://agutie.homest.../Inca_Music.htm
"Beaver, ahoy!""The bridge is like a magnet, attracting both pedestrians and over 30,000 vehicles daily who enjoy the views of Victoria's harbour. The skyline may change, but "Big Blue" as some call it, will always be there."
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#6 Ms. B. Havin

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Posted 07 August 2007 - 07:32 PM

The Marimba band issue comes up in at least 5 VV threads, but I'll post this little item in the "Busking in Victoria" one -- it seems the best fit.

Did y'all see this?

Victoria marimba band giving private performance for Oprah on B.C. island
Times Colonist
Published: Tuesday, August 07, 2007

Their music was considered too loud for some, but it appears it's just right for Oprah.

Members of Victoria's Jambanja, a seven-piece marimba band that usually plays on Government Street, will give a private concert Wednesday evening for Oprah Winfrey and 25 of her "top people" at an undisclosed B.C. island.

"This is our first real celebrity we have played for," said Melissa Chigamba, a band member who was surprised news had leaked out to the media. "I can't really say too much about it."

Chigamba added she's not even sure where the island is.

Earlier this year, the band was one of two told by Victoria city officials to reduce its numbers to five because of complaints by other buskers and nearby businesses that the music was too loud.

Chigamba wouldn't say how much the band is being paid for the private concert for Oprah. "It is more than the usual ... it was kind of a last-minute thing."

Alert Bay had its own brush with fame late last week when the daytime TV star disembarked from a 150-foot yacht owned by B.C. billionaire Jim Pattison to take part in a potlatch at the U'mista Cultural Centre.

Chigamba said it was Pattison who heard the band play on Government Street last year and decided to hire it to perform.

After boarding a private jet at Victoria International Airport, band members will be whisked off to the island for the evening. "It's kinda cool," Chigamba said.

The other marimba band affected by the city's restrictions was the 10-member Chikora, a Metchosin-based band that sprang out of a school group.

On a few occasions, half the Chikora band members busked downtown to comply with the edict. The full ensemble has also played for two special occasions.

"But it has taken the enthusiasm away. It is not the same atmosphere," said spokeswoman Patricia Brown.

Brown said Chikora now busks in Sidney "and they are most welcoming ... but it's not our first choice. We want to be in Victoria. There are more tourists. The vibrancy is more pronounced."

After being turfed from its Government Street location, the band unsuccessfully auditioned for a busking spot with the Greater Victoria Harbour Authority.

"We were told we had one of the best auditions of the day. We had gathered the largest crowd. But it was too loud," said Brown, who hasn't given up hope the city will take another look at its rules.


As for Jambanja, the Oprah gig isn't paying enough for the band to quit its day job. Members will be back busking in the 900 block of Government Street Thursday from 1 to 3 p.m.
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#7 TeaganKelk22

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Posted 14 May 2009 - 11:52 PM

As a local busker, I personally agree with G-Man completely. however, I really think that the marimba bands should be keeping it fresh - writing new stuff so the people who have to keep listening constantly don't get bored.

that's what I try to do.

#8 VicDuck

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Posted 15 May 2009 - 06:03 AM

I usually just ignore the bands except that person that dresses up as Darth Vader playing the violin.

#9 G-Man

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Posted 15 May 2009 - 07:43 AM

I listen to a busker every now and then and I love how you can walk down Government street and one song transitions to another, it really is very cool.

#10 Holden West

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Posted 15 May 2009 - 08:01 AM








"Beaver, ahoy!""The bridge is like a magnet, attracting both pedestrians and over 30,000 vehicles daily who enjoy the views of Victoria's harbour. The skyline may change, but "Big Blue" as some call it, will always be there."
-City of Victoria website, 2009

#11 yodsaker

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Posted 15 May 2009 - 09:02 AM

I usually just ignore the bands except that person that dresses up as Darth Vader playing the violin.


He's hard to ignore. "Playing the violin" is a bit of a stretch though.
Beating it up comes to mind. He should get a job but obviously enough people keep giving.
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Posted 21 May 2013 - 08:54 PM

His Name is Paul and he plays a really good guitar.

I watch him when I see him and so do many other people who stop .

He let me film him on Monday and I told him I was going to post it.
He was cool with it.

Oh and he has a nice guitar too.

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#13 Mike K.

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Posted 21 May 2013 - 09:00 PM

That's awesome.

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#14 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 16 June 2022 - 10:05 AM

No buskers festival this year.  I don't think.



 



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