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[dasmo]

@ElectionsBC now says "an anomaly in the data" was found and "upon investigation we determined that an election official data entry mistake had resulted in 14 votes for SRG not being reported."
EBC waiting for judicial recount of Surrey-Guildford before updating the new vote count.

https://x.com/robsha...QrcObpkhVXe97Jg

[dasmo]

Here is the news article
https://globalnews.c...-box-uncounted/

[Matt R.]

“Anomaly in the data” = “we made a mistake” yeah?

[max.bravo]

It doesn’t give one more confidence in bc elections

[LJ]

So now Eby vows to only work with MLA's who hold acceptable views, his views in other words. That will unify the sh*t out of the province. Got the Eby jeebies yet?

 

https://northernbeat...ceptable-views/

[lanforod]

No one is surprised

[Lupurus2901]

It doesn’t give one more confidence in bc elections

Catching and reporting out an error makes you less confident?

[Victoria Watcher]

Catching and reporting out an error makes you less confident?

 

When they say they "found" an extra 861 ballots, yes.

 

 

 

 

 

https://www.timescol...counted-9758380

 

British Columbia's election agency says it has discovered that a ballot box containing 861 votes wasn't counted in the recent provincial election, as well as other mistakes, including 14 votes going unreported in a crucial riding narrowly won by the NDP.

 

The errors prompted B.C. Conservative Leader John Rustad to call for an independent review on Monday.

 

Elections BC said in a statement that the omission of the ballot box did not affect the result in Prince George-Mackenzie, the electoral district where the box was found. 

 

It said the unreported votes in Surrey-Guildford were discovered last week during preparations for a judicial recount in the riding, where Garry Begg's 27-vote victory propelled the New Democrats to a one-seat majority government.

[Blair M.]

There will be some voters who will have lost their confidence in B.C.'s electoral process, compounded by this recent news of "finding" an extra 861 ballots that were once missing and uncounted, and are now recently discovered.

 

Elections B.C. is compelled now to either commission their own third party investigation of what went wrong, or the Legislature (once it's sitting) will be compelled to order an investigation into what are, for some voters, unacceptable errors that were made in counting B.C.'s votes.

 

Rustad himself isn't claiming any blatant impropriety, but he is demanding a full investigation into elements of the electoral process that went quite obviously wrong.

I think Rustad is right to require an investigation, in order to restore transparency.

[Victoria Watcher]

I bet these issues occur every election. They are just not significant as to the overall result, in most.

[Blair M.]

I wonder if widespread and easy access to social media and access to news in what is close to real time have served to highlight these kinds of  issues?

As well, the overall climate has undoubtedly changed in 2024, such that many voters now want an absolute assurance that the electoral process is above reproach. 

 

"Finding" over 800 votes does serve to undermine confidence in the electoral process.

Edited by Blair M., 05 November 2024 - 06:47 AM.

[Victoria Watcher]

No, we just (rightly) don’t pay attention when the election is won by many ridings, unless maybe a recount is held in our own riding.

[Mike K.]

Was this ballot box one that ended up going home with an election worker?

[dasmo]

It’s also a new system. Progress is supposed to improve things….
I am glad there will be an audit.

[Sparky]

NDP win confirmed in Surrey

[FogPub]

I wonder if widespread and easy access to social media and access to news in what is close to real time have served to highlight these kinds of  issues?

As well, the overall climate has undoubtedly changed in 2024, such that many voters now want an absolute assurance that the electoral process is above reproach. 

 

"Finding" over 800 votes does serve to undermine confidence in the electoral process.

Thing is, it turns out these "found ballots" and other fairly minor errors didn't change anything - the candidates who appeared to win on the initial count all ended up remaining winners after the recounts, by very similar (and in a few cases, razor-thin) margins.

 

What that tells me is they got it pretty much right the first time.

[Mike K.]

Did the recount in Surrey show a discrepancy between the first total, irrespective of the 14 new votes?

[dasmo]

They were not minor. And it’s not about the results, it’s about the process.
If some votes were “not counted” and discovered after the fact. It tells us there might be more. If one ballot box was uncovered only after a judicial recount was underway it tells us there could be more. If 17,000 votes appear after they should know them all it tells us the count isn’t accurate. If they brought ballot boxes home it tells us the ballots are not secure.

Edited by dasmo, 09 November 2024 - 07:00 AM.

[lanforod]

Somehow, I don't believe you. I really doubt you'd be making such a big deal of this here if it where the BC Cons with 47 seats.

[dasmo]

Somehow, I don't believe you. I really doubt you'd be making such a big deal of this here if it were the BC Cons with 47 seats.

I would.