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[Mike K.]

Grand Chief Stewart Phillip of the UBCIC called DRIPA “sacrosanct,” and Eby soon backed down. A joint statement on April 20 from the premier and FNLC confirmed that the provincial government would retreat and would not introduce any legislation to suspend or amend DRIPA during the spring sitting of the legislature.

Furthermore, the government stated that it and the FNLC would work together before the fall session to reach a resolution. This is not governance in the Canadian parliamentary tradition. The premier, who nominally leads a province of roughly 5.7 million British Columbians, has let the rules be set by an outside power bloc, and this is a significant development.

When First Nations leaders confirm that co-governance is their goal, they are admitting that they want British Columbians to be governed by authorities that they can neither elect, remove, nor otherwise hold accountable. First Nations organizations will not give up their newfound power without a fight. From a cynical standpoint, why would they want to give up such power?

The B.C. Assembly of First Nations has already shown its cards with a proposal for “co-governance” over water in 2025. In the proposal, First Nations would exercise decision-making authority with provincial, municipal, and other governments over all aspects of water and water management, which is described as a central goal of First Nations in B.C. Given that water is essential to almost everything we do as humans, this is enormously significant.

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A similar arrangement emerged during the previous controversies over changes being made to the Land Act, which dictates the rules of land management in B.C., where almost 95 per cent of the province is public land. In 2024, the NDP was reported to be preparing to share statutory decision-making over that public land with First Nations as part of its push for reconciliation and to align with DRIPA. Those changes would have had enormous implications for resource users, tenure holders, permit applicants, businesses, and others dependent on access to public land.

Once reported, the public reaction was immediate and large enough that the NDP backed down from the amendments to the Land Act.

- https://nationalpost...dripa-is-around

The realities of DRIPA do not align with the almost fairy tale-like descriptions I’ve seen from largely unaware or biased sources. The argument I am seeing in our discussion here is that BC residents will advance nothing by undoing DRIPA, which is misaligned with the reality of the implications of DRIPA. With DRIPA, the average BC resident loses their democratic power, and does not in any way advance it.

[dasmo]

"where almost 95 per cent of the province is public land." That is a misnomer. It is CROWN land. It is not ours, the public.

 

What you should be arguing for the getting the same rights being granted them not arguing they should have the lack of rights that we have. In particular article 10 from UNDRIP should apply to all of us.

 

Land expropriation is a universally-held right governments in Western societies have, so that a private land owner cannot get in the way of projects for the public good.

 

Without it, society could not function.

 

 

So I guess you are giving consent to our government to take our land and give it to the FN if they think it is in the public good. The government is the only entity that  has the authority and power to do so.  What article 10 in UNDRIP says is that they can't do that to indigenous people.  Why not argue that they can't do it to us either? they have 95% of the land mass to do what they want with. give us true property rights ourselves and then this is a non issue. 

 

Repeal DRIPA and UNDRIP stays. 

 

 

Repeal the federal enactment of UNDRIP and it still doesn't change much.

 

Exit the United Nations and it still doesn't change much. 

 

It is common law that matters in this country, that is what sets precedence is case rulings. Legislation will only send cases to court. The court rulings then set the law into a firm standing. This is why we have legalized weed. The legislation was challenged and struck down. 

 

In this case there are now 3 court rulings that had nothing to do with UNDRIP or DRIPA. Cases that were brought forward long before those came into being. It is these rulings that have destabilized private property rights. 

 

Address OUR private property rights directly if you actually want the rights. Otherwise you are just participating in the theater. The media will just love it! 

[Mike K.]

You’re living within a control system, whether you like it or not. Despite all your rage, you’re still just a rat in a cage.

But it could be far worse. You could be living in Russia, or Iran, or Somalia.

For now, most people would be happy with backing off on DRIPA, considering its implications. I don’t really care that Crown Land isn’t in some different category of public land, when it’s magnitudes better than what most of the world’s people has. I’d rather we not mess up what we have through DRIPA that delivers unexpected implications and creates barriers to accessing Crown Land.

[Mike K.]

Dasmo really dislikes Kerri-Lynne Findlay, one of the Conservative leadership candidates, but she's resonating with BCers like none of the other candidates.

 

https://x.com/Tables...5029345638?s=20

 

Have a listen to what she says.

[dasmo]

Dasmo really dislikes Kerri-Lynne Findlay, one of the Conservative leadership candidates, but she's resonating with BCers like none of the other candidates.

https://x.com/Tables...5029345638?s=20

Have a listen to what she says.

That’s not true. I don’t know her. I actually appreciate her support of the Freedom Convoy etc. but I do dislike the political theatre that surrounds this subject and the 8 lane highway is an idiotic thing to say. But hey she is a politician. Hate the game as they say.

[Victoria Watcher]

Debt required to build for the future, improve infrastructure: premier

 

B.C. Premier David Eby said projects like the Surrey-Langley SkyTrain extension still could be cancelled depending who was in power.

https://www.timescol...remier-12259150

[splashflash]

That’s not true. I don’t know her. I actually appreciate her support of the Freedom Convoy etc. but I do dislike the political theatre that surrounds this subject and the 8 lane highway is an idiotic thing to say. But hey she is a politician. Hate the game as they say.

Looks like Findlay very narrowly won. She probably needs a letter setting her straight about fully grade separating and widening the southern stretch of the Trans-Canada on the Island.

[max.bravo]

If you’re gonna add 100k people / year to this province you NEED to also upgrade infrastructure.

The idea that the roads we have now are good enough forever is complete hogwash.

[Mike K.]

It is hogwash.

I’m thrilled she won. Dasmo’s not going to like this one bit.

Quiote from her: "In our national anthem, we cry out to God to make our land glorious and free. A free people, free choices and free speech in a free enterprise economy."

[dasmo]

I think it’s great! I hope the party gets elected so I can have my told you so moment when she back-pedals on the tiny section of 8 lane highway.

[LJ]

Oh dasmo, she's a politician, she won't back pedal, she will be misquoted, have to put a pause on that project, claim to be dyslexic and gets 6s and 8s mixed up, never wrong.

[Lashlarue]

If 1/4 of what she proposed got done it would be a win for the island.

[Mike K.]

It does feel nice for a party leader to notice us, and identify the biggest infrastructure need, not want, on the Island, and say she’s committed to figuring out a solution.

I’d be happy if nothing on the south Island was touched, but if the TCH got even a few overpasses north of the Malahat, and the 19 through Nanaimo. That alone with be a huge step forward. Currently there must be dozens of intersections between the Malahat and the 19 freeway.

[FogPub]

^And a Duncan bypass.

[max.bravo]

Currently there must be dozens of intersections between the Malahat and the 19 freeway.

Robot:
Estimated Number of Controlled Intersections (Traffic Lights)

Between the Malahat Summit and the Highway 19 (Nanaimo Parkway) interchange, there are approximately 19–22 signalized intersections.

If a single estimate is needed, about 21 traffic lights is a reasonable figure.

Approximate Breakdown by Segment


[]Malahat Summit → Mill Bay: 2–3 lights
[]Mill Bay → Duncan: 4–5 lights
[]Duncan / North Cowichan: 6–7 lights
[]Chemainus area: 2–3 lights
[]Ladysmith: 4–5 lights
[]South Nanaimo → Hwy 19 interchange: 1–2 lights

Estimated Total: 19–22 lights (approximately 21)

For context, a Vancouver Island driver reported counting approximately 31 traffic lights between the broader Malahat area and Highway 19, which is consistent with the estimate above once the lights south of the summit are excluded.

In short, anyone driving from the Malahat Summit to the Nanaimo Parkway can expect to encounter roughly 21 controlled intersections along Highway 1.

[Mike K.]

Mill Bay has 5 controlled intersections, and the 19 up to the freeway from the exchange (past Nanoose) has 11, so that's 16 just in those two spans. Then there are 7 between Mill Bay and the Duncan Bridge, which brings us to 23. Then another 13 between Duncan and Ladysmith. So now we’re at 36, and there’s still a ways to go.

I5 between Canada and Mexico has zero.

[Mike K.]

Ok, 4 between Ladysmith and the 19 exit.

So 40 controlled intersections, and I may have missed one or two. Then there are the uncontrolled intersections.

Robot is only off by 50%. AI can be total garbage when you’re dealing with facts, even simple facts.

But it’s crazy to have that bad of a primary, oftentimes with no detour or no simple detour, single highway connecting 600,000 people between Nanoose and Greater Victoria.

In short, anyone driving from the Malahat Summit to the Nanaimo Parkway can expect to encounter roughly 21 controlled intersections along Highway 1.

So to recap, there are 29 between the Malahat and the start of the 19, not including the intersection at the continuation of the 1 below the 19’s overpass. Then there are 11 more along the 19 until you hit the freeway. And even the freeway between Nanoose (actually, that might be Parksville, technically? I dunno) and Campbell River has a bunch of controlled intersections.

Crazy.

[dasmo]

^And a Duncan bypass.

Now that’s something. The lights at Nanaimo too.

[max.bravo]

Oh, I asked for it to calculate from malahat summit to SOUTH of Nanaimo - where the bypass peels off from the old highway.

[max.bravo]

This isn’t an example of AI being unreliable; it’s a matter of you not understanding exactly what I asked it to count.