I don't know why they deemed it necessary to withdraw the press releases but here's a news story anyway.
https://www.cheknews...shelter-738711/
Posted 27 January 2021 - 04:59 PM
I don't know why they deemed it necessary to withdraw the press releases but here's a news story anyway.
https://www.cheknews...shelter-738711/
Posted 28 January 2021 - 06:27 AM
Posted 28 January 2021 - 08:05 AM
And this opens 45 more spaces in various CoV parks for additional squatters.
It’s a good thing the Humans of Meegan (sic) have set up an alternate tent to service the inevitable influx. Think about it. It’s 3am, you’ve returned from foraging in James Bay, stowed your loot in the corral. Too much screaming next door to sleep and your fence won’t be around for a few hours. The Bunsen burner is running low. You’re coming down from your last fix and feeling twitchy. You really need some harm reduction supplies and maybe a cup of coffee.
Do you really want to stumble down through the woods to the Red Cedar tent? No telling who else might be hanging out in the trees and there’s always a chance of being spotted by a police patrol on Cook. It’s a lot safer to traverse the gentle slopes over to the Humans tent. Plus you don’t have to leave your stuff unguarded for as long and it’s easier to make a break for it over the gravel field if necessary.
The Humans have correctly analyzed the needs of Victoria’s most vulnerable and provided appropriate services.
Posted 28 January 2021 - 08:46 AM
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Posted 28 January 2021 - 08:52 AM
Anyone who denies induced demand is a huge issue is either very ignorant of the situation or is lying in order to profit from it in some way.
homelessness 5 years ago in victoria:
cot on a gym floor overnight
leave by 8am - go get meals at our place (no sunday breakfast)
back to cot on gym floor at 9pm
welfare rate $295 cash
homelessness today (for many) in victoria:
private hotel or other (844 johnson, vancouver st.) room
stay all day, store your belongings permanently
3 meals in-house, plus snack/coffee station
welfare rate $545 cash
cellphone courtesy of the government
and people don't see how that will induce demand?
Edited by Victoria Watcher, 28 January 2021 - 08:54 AM.
Posted 28 January 2021 - 04:08 PM
Posted 29 January 2021 - 06:21 AM
Question... Something I've been trying to reconcile...
We are being told March 31st.
I assume there are many out there who:
- prefer outdoor camping living,
- prefer anything goes/no rules/freedom living,
- prefer marble countertops/Whirlpool tub/unrealistic living amenities.
In other words, there will be many who will be objecting to what free housing options will be offered to them, because whatever will be offered will never be 'good enough' for them.
Help me understand what their game is here? They're crying for housing, we offer it to them, and there is a risk they could snub their noses at it? Are these the unhouseables or is it something else? And what should be the plan to address people who fall into this bucket?
Edited by kitty surprise, 29 January 2021 - 06:46 AM.
Posted 29 January 2021 - 06:35 AM
Posted 29 January 2021 - 12:52 PM
They should be in appropriate shelter facilities with access to proper sanitation & hygiene (showers and toilets) and given access to job search, training, housing search and treatment. Enabling dysfunction doesn't work - I think the care tent provides essential services, what I disagree with is the enablement of 24/7 sheltering in places where it's not appropriate. I still fail to understand why semi-permanent, larger, tent facilities that could accommodate 20 or 30 people per site in more appropriate locations weren't established. I fail to understand why allowing our parks to be used in this way has helped anyone.
Posted 29 January 2021 - 01:42 PM
...I fail to understand why allowing our parks to be used in this way has helped anyone.
It helps the activists.
Posted 29 January 2021 - 04:51 PM
Count me as dubious regarding the essential services. I drive by there fairly often on my daily rounds and have yet to see anyone except a couple of volunteers. I suppose there might be one or two people inside the tents but it certainly doesn’t present as some kind of emergency situation. And whatever it does provide basically constitutes enabling of 24hr camping and drug use.
Posted 29 January 2021 - 06:12 PM
Just watched a short interview on CHEK with a woman who camps in Central Park. She said that no one there wants to move into the arena. Too many restrictions etc. I think this is the big fly in the ointment regarding the famous March 31 camping end date.
Posted 29 January 2021 - 06:30 PM
Well, Lisa promised so it's on her to figure it out.
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Posted 29 January 2021 - 06:34 PM
Seen on Facebook this afternoon. Ask the EXPERTS!
Posted 29 January 2021 - 07:11 PM
What? We're supposed to ask questions of the unhoused now? I have a couple of things I'd like to ask, lol, but I might be considered rude.
Posted 29 January 2021 - 08:14 PM
This is fantastic! We've now got Expert Homeless People! I don't know why you guys are so annoyed by all of this. It could really put our city on the map! :-D
Posted 30 January 2021 - 08:27 AM
Another big tent down in the Cook Street site. This one has a high steeple roof, the kind you used to see at medieval fairs. Very festive. That makes three big tents and one small one. Ben and his crew have been busy. Still no sign of any activity (rejoice, Cook Street neighbours.) Kind of reminds me of the Coral Castle, that place in Florida where the guy, without any apparent help or machinery, somehow erected 20 ton blocks overnight.
Posted 30 January 2021 - 10:14 AM
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