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[A Girl is No one]

I have this saved in my bookmarks for quickfire submissions:

https://www.victoria...gMVgiHEFd1prrTs

Why don’t the people that live right across the bike path from it report it?
At some point people have to take ownership of this problem. If they won’t speak up then they can have their squatter. I’m not doing it for them.

[Mike K.]

Do you think the local media will feature the owners of the burned property to get sympathy? Nope. Nothing to see here.

I think there will be more media resources available tomorrow to bring more clarification forward. Usually incidents like this on a weekend will be covered again during the week.

Victoria council and the province need to answer for this. Residents are terrified of what has been brought to their neighbourhood.

[Tom Braybrook]

Why don’t the people that live right across the bike path from it report it?
At some point people have to take ownership of this problem. If they won’t speak up then they can have their squatter. I’m not doing it for them.

somebody i know made a complaint last week about a tent in oaklands park...it is gone as of today!

[Victoria Watcher]

Grant McKenzie, communications director for Our Place, said the non-profit is “extremely disappointed” by the incident. They do not make the decision to remove someone from housing lightly, but they have a zero tolerance policy for crime, he said, and safety for residents and neighbours is a top priority.

 

“Last night, there were 29 other people in that shelter who had a good night’s sleep because housing was available for them. We can’t jeopardize that,” McKenzie said.

 

Outreach workers, who can provide help filling out applications for housing, detox, identification, returning to school or finding work, do not have the training to help people with complex mental health needs, McKenzie said.

 

The needs of someone who sets fire to property are “such a step above a local charity providing housing,” he said.

 

“It shows that there’s such a gap that we’re missing, you know. So this person has been arrested for arson, and the way the system seems to be working, he’ll probably be released this afternoon or tomorrow. And he’ll be released back onto the street, because there is no place to put him,” McKenzie said. “There is no place of complex care that can look into what’s causing this.”

 

 

https://www.timescol...rest-1.24319774

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 17 May 2021 - 04:00 AM.

[kitty surprise]

"The needs of someone who sets fire to property are such a step above a local charity providing housing...and he’ll be released back onto the street, because there is no place to put him,”

I hope Grant isn't suggesting creating a new housing type for criminals. Because they would be prison. And taxpayers already pay for that. But we're not getting very good value for money. And it's not lining the pockets of the charities oops my bad.

[JimV]

Well, to be fair, the suspect respected the Our Place rule against setting fires within 20m of the shelter.

[Victoria Watcher]

has Our Place - ever - commented about the eviction of one if their tenants over the years?

Adam Stirling suggests this guy not be allowed back yesterday and today our place confirms that’s the plan.

[A Girl is No one]

So does this mean that he will be allowed to sleep in parks where he will be just as dangerous - just not to Our Place staff?

[spanky123]

Do you think the local media will feature the owners of the burned property to get sympathy? Nope. Nothing to see here.

 

I am sure they are ecstatic. BC Housing will build them a new building (or just buy it for 5x what it is worth).

[spanky123]

has Our Place - ever - commented about the eviction of one if their tenants over the years?

Adam Stirling suggests this guy not be allowed back yesterday and today our place confirms that’s the plan.

 

Not back at that shelter. 

[VIResident]

Those who are homeless are as terrified as those who are homed. 

[Victoria Watcher]

Not back at that shelter. 

 

that's true.  he's not likely precluded from staying at other shelters.

[A Girl is No one]

Took a short walk by the park. Many tents still in place, and many old campers.
Why can’t the campers park in the parking lot if a shelter? Paul’s has a large parking lot.

[Victoria Watcher]

Took a short walk by the park. Many tents still in place, and many old campers.
Why can’t the campers park in the parking lot if a shelter? Paul’s has a large parking lot.

 

so does 3020 blanshard and tally ho and super 8.

[Tom Braybrook]

i think a lot of these problems could be solved if we just created another $60,000 position for a "Housing Outreach Pilot Project" !!??

 

link to city doc - https://t.co/9Cv782bTYP?amp=1

 

courtesy of sharmarke, ben and sarah

Edited by tommy, 18 May 2021 - 09:23 AM.

[sebberry]

You'd think after all this time we'd have a position like that already?

[A Girl is No one]

i think a lot of these problems could be solved if we just created another $60,000 position for a "Housing Outreach Pilot Project" !!??

link to city doc - https://t.co/9Cv782bTYP?amp=1

courtesy of sharmarke, ben and sarah

Which one of them is connected to the recipient of this new position, I wonder?

[Dexter]

Tiny homes village has its first fire 3 days in... who won the pool on that one?

https://vancouverisl...jqC1pVVCnTPIzD8

Edit, I see this was posted in the crime section

Edited by Klapecki, 18 May 2021 - 01:28 PM.

[Victoria Watcher]

that’s why these folks need supervision. like kids. no matches.

[laconic]

I passed a couple of police officers and support people chatting with a couple of the few remaining homeless campers in Vic West park. Last week wagon train guy was complaining about having to sign a paper agreeing to shelter rules. Today two-wheel electric scooter guy was asking if there were any plans to install public outlets. I wasn't sure if he was referring to the park or the shelter.