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#23961 Sparky

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Posted 29 August 2022 - 04:02 PM

^ Jesus Murphy.
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#23962 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 29 August 2022 - 04:07 PM

People continue to think that the vast majority of people that are people are homeless simply become they have no homes.   They do not consider the actual reasons.



#23963 Nparker

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Posted 29 August 2022 - 05:12 PM

A novel but highly controversial idea that is being seriously considered by the City of Los Angeles would mandate all hotels within the jurisdiction to open up vacant hotel rooms to house the homeless on a nightly basis. This would apply to all hotels — everything from one- and two-star motels to five-star properties...

Members of the local government should be made to give over space in their homes first.


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#23964 mbjj

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Posted 29 August 2022 - 06:05 PM

What would happen in LA hotels if people showed up after 2 PM and wanted a room? Seems like a plan that wouldn't work. 



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Posted 29 August 2022 - 07:14 PM

Sounds to me like some deals on LA hotel rooms are going to be had!

#23966 Nparker

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Posted 29 August 2022 - 07:20 PM

Members of the local government should be made to give over space in their homes first.

Unless of course they have important papers lying around.



#23967 LJ

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Posted 29 August 2022 - 07:24 PM

I think the hotels would do what the shelters here do, pretend they are full every night.


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#23968 North Shore

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Posted 29 August 2022 - 07:57 PM

*If* that passes, then a proactive hotelier would collect a list of trustworthy clients, and leave out the troublemakers and generally hard-to-house....who are all gong to end up back on the street...


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#23969 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 29 August 2022 - 08:00 PM

Imagine 20,000 mentally ill homeless moving into hotels at 3pm. And expected to leave at 11am. I’m sure it’ll all work out smoothly with no issues.

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 29 August 2022 - 08:00 PM.


#23970 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 29 August 2022 - 08:23 PM

The Dutch leader said he is ashamed that hundreds of asylum-seekers have been forced to sleep in the sweltering heat outside an overcrowded migrant reception center, as his government announced measures Friday to ease the situation by providing more accommodations and temporarily restricting migration.

“It is terrible what is happening in Ter Apel,” Prime Minister Mark Rutte said, referring to the center in the northeastern village of Ter Apel.

But, he added: “I think together we have found a way out of this problem.”

Among a raft of measures announced by Rutte’s four-party ruling coalition were moves to temporarily rein in family reunions of migrants who have been granted refugee status, provide more housing for people whose asylum requests are honored and process and repatriate people quicker from countries that are considered safe.

Part of the current crisis is that people who have been granted refugee status remain stuck in asylum-seeker centers because they have no place to move to amid a nationwide housing crisis.


https://apnews.com/a...162cfcfa912b2d4



Are there any countries left with no housing crisis?

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 29 August 2022 - 08:24 PM.


#23971 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 29 August 2022 - 08:25 PM

Ter Apel weather: 24 degree days, 12 degree night. “Sweltering”.

#23972 JimV

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Posted 30 August 2022 - 12:54 PM


But, he added: “I think together we have found a way out of this problem.”
 

Maybe he’s referring to his war on farmers.  Once food production drops by 30% or so the migrants may choose to infest neighbouring countries instead.



#23973 Mike K.

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Posted 30 August 2022 - 01:09 PM

“Infest?”

Jim, you’re talking about human beings here. Whatever their predicament or wherever they may have come from, to say they are infesting another place is overboard.
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#23974 JimV

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Posted 30 August 2022 - 06:08 PM

Sorry, I should have said “enrich.”


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Posted 01 September 2022 - 08:27 AM

Sorry I don't have the link but there was a news item on CFAX this morning about "dozens" of homeless people arriving (bussed into?) Victoria over the past week. The item claimed many were from Vancouver.

 

I wonder if this is for election leverage now that we are almost underway.


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Posted 01 September 2022 - 09:20 AM

Link:

https://www.iheartra...-say-1.18447174


Not “bused in”. But arriving. And yes social services do pay for bus tickets if you can make a case for it.

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 01 September 2022 - 09:22 AM.


#23977 spanky123

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Posted 01 September 2022 - 09:23 AM

Our Place says while there's been a recent rise in demand for services, there's still fewer people on the streets of Victoria now than there were two years ago.

 

Too bad there was no homeless count this year. Makes it hard to validate any claims.


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Posted 01 September 2022 - 09:25 AM

The coalition thinks one factor may be people wanting to maintain a sense of community.

"There is community in wherever people are. There’s street community," said Janine Theobald with the coalition.

"Some people need a change; some people need to move for safety. There’s all sorts of reasons why anyone might move," she said.




All sorts of reasons! Number one of course being our permissiveness. We still allow camping on our streets 24/7. Even though we said we would stop that.

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#23979 Mike K.

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Posted 01 September 2022 - 09:28 AM

Is this not a seasonal move? It would make sense for people to move from where winter weather is harsher, to the milder climate of Victoria.
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Posted 01 September 2022 - 09:34 AM

...We still allow camping on our streets 24/7. Even though we said we would stop that.

Addressing this obvious failure to uphold municipal bylaws needs to be a priority of the new council (although I am sure it won't).



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