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#14701 Nparker

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Posted 13 August 2018 - 06:00 PM

....More time was required to prepare.

It's not easy to take time out of one's busy life to prepare for a court hearing.



#14702 David Bratzer

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Posted 13 August 2018 - 06:04 PM

Not to be contrarian ... but I'm wondering about the reality of a scenario which would include these folks having iPhones, paid up cell phone plans, and internet access with which to download and utilize an app in the first place.

 

Some street-entrenched drug users have three or four iPhones plus a laptop or two.  This isn't the case for everyone. But at the same time it's also not uncommon.



#14703 Love the rock

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Posted 13 August 2018 - 06:06 PM

Not to be contrarian ... but I'm wondering about the reality of a scenario which would include these folks having iPhones, paid up cell phone plans, and internet access with which to download and utilize an app in the first place.


You can come across iPhones easily if you live a life of crime.

#14704 Love the rock

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Posted 13 August 2018 - 06:12 PM

Some street-entrenched drug users have three or four iPhones plus a laptop or two.  This isn't the case for everyone. But at the same time it's also not uncommon.

Guess we were typing at the same time .
They used to say crime doesn’t pay now that statement is laughably. Not only does it pay but we kiss the a$$ of the criminal as the door closes behind them .

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Posted 13 August 2018 - 10:17 PM

So you folks think that the rent’a’bikes piloted by obvious miscreants of no means ... and towing makeshift trailers around the city at 2:00am have been legitimately rented?

OK.

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#14706 Love the rock

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Posted 13 August 2018 - 11:11 PM

So you folks think that the rent’a’bikes piloted by obvious miscreants of no means ... and towing makeshift trailers around the city at 2:00am have been legitimately rented?
OK.

Not at all .I think the underbelly of the homeless have a lot more access to iPads iPhones ,tablets ,throw away cel phones and free wifi than some think .

#14707 Mike K.

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Posted 14 August 2018 - 07:42 AM

U-Bicycle gifted two dozen refurbished green bikes to Anawim House, which is why we're likely seeing more of them being used without the locking mechanism in place.


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#14708 A Girl is No one

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Posted 14 August 2018 - 04:12 PM

Ummmm Not sure what that says about Anawin house. They say no drugs, but I see the folks on the green bikes hanging out at Pandora green all the time, along with the drug dealers and crew.

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Posted 15 August 2018 - 06:25 AM

U-Bicycle gifted two dozen refurbished green bikes to Anawim House, which is why we're likely seeing more of them being used without the locking mechanism in place.

Sadly, the cynic in me responds with "gifted - is that what they call accepting stock loss these days."


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Posted 15 August 2018 - 08:53 AM

U-Bicycle gifted two dozen refurbished green bikes to Anawim House, which is why we're likely seeing more of them being used without the locking mechanism in place.

Translation:  free bikes so more money for drugs, booze, smokes, etc, etc

 

Give stuff to the homeless and all you are doing is enabling them.  What is the old saying - give a man a fish and he eats for a day, teach a man to fish and he eats for a lifetime

 

With the exception of charities that deal with kids, I refuse to give money to any local charities


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Posted 15 August 2018 - 11:54 AM

The old saying is - give a man a fish and that's not the fish he wanted, teach a man to fish and he'll wipe out the fishery so don't let him fish unless it's for traditional or ceremonial purposes and he is part of a specific group.

 

It's a bit of a wordy saying. so most people use, "Give a man a fish..."


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#14712 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 15 August 2018 - 12:05 PM

Are there any charities specifically set up to teach men to fish?
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Posted 15 August 2018 - 12:16 PM

Are there any charities specifically set up to teach men to fish?

I hear charities are big business here, so if there isn't yet... just wait a bit.

 

Googling a bit didn't find much in the way of actual fishing charities, but did find a interesting bit:
 

 

... what happens if the proverbial man loses his fishing pole or the fish somehow run out? If his only knowledge is how to fish to survive, then he is in a precarious situation. Without the tool to fish or the resources in the water, he will starve and die. The benefit of “eating for a lifetime” in the proverb only applies if the conditions never change, which is not realistic. - http://www.nuruinter...-is-not-enough/



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Posted 15 August 2018 - 03:56 PM

Are there any charities specifically set up to teach men to fish?

No, hence they don't get a dime of my money.  Anyone giving money to these charities is continuously allowing the homeless situation to continue.

 

A friend (no not me lol) did some volunteering at Our Place, cooking in the kitchen, prepping meals, etc.  They quit when they were basically treated as an employee (here is your shift schedule, etc) plus the homeless expected the volunteers to clean up after them like they were eating in a restaurant!


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Posted 15 August 2018 - 04:20 PM

I suggest all of you go down to Anawim and take a tour. It is one of the best agencies in the city. People are there because they wanted to make a change in their life and have succeeded.

A Girl is No One - you are saying that because you saw someone on Pandora with a Green Bike that it came from Anawim? You followed them from there?

There are a lot of useless non-profits in this city that are making a bad situation worse but Anawim stands out as a shining example of what be done through people taking an opportunity and paying it forward.
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#14716 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 15 August 2018 - 04:24 PM

Anawim had 25 bikes donated from u-bike someone said so presumably they are green.

 

story:  https://www.oakbayne...o-anawim-house/


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Posted 15 August 2018 - 04:36 PM

Maybe the should of painted them a different colour before the donation instead of labeling their brand as they have?
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#14718 A Girl is No one

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Posted 15 August 2018 - 05:46 PM

I suggest all of you go down to Anawim and take a tour. It is one of the best agencies in the city. People are there because they wanted to make a change in their life and have succeeded.

A Girl is No One - you are saying that because you saw someone on Pandora with a Green Bike that it came from Anawim? You followed them from there?

There are a lot of useless non-profits in this city that are making a bad situation worse but Anawim stands out as a shining example of what be done through people taking an opportunity and paying it forward.

I totally support Anawym’s model.
but If Anawym residents are out there hanging out with drug dealers every night, I can’t help but feel suspicious. Forgive me for being cynical... after having had my eyes opened about the poverty industry and their constant lies, it’s hard not to.

#14719 LJ

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Posted 15 August 2018 - 07:46 PM

I suggest all of you go down to Anawim and take a tour. It is one of the best agencies in the city. People are there because they wanted to make a change in their life and have succeeded.

A Girl is No One - you are saying that because you saw someone on Pandora with a Green Bike that it came from Anawim? You followed them from there?

There are a lot of useless non-profits in this city that are making a bad situation worse but Anawim stands out as a shining example of what be done through people taking an opportunity and paying it forward.

There are definitely places that do good things to help people recover, I'm familiar with several, and donate to them regularly.

 

Low barrier or other shelters that the poverty pimps run for their own sustenance will never willingly get a dime from me.


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#14720 G-Man

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Posted 15 August 2018 - 07:53 PM

I totally support Anawym’s model.
but If Anawym residents are out there hanging out with drug dealers every night, I can’t help but feel suspicious. Forgive me for being cynical... after having had my eyes opened about the poverty industry and their constant lies, it’s hard not to.


My point is just because people on green bikes are hanging out on Pandora does not mean they came from Anawim House. Those bikes are all over the city.
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