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[spanky123]

Anawim had 25 bikes donated from u-bike someone said so presumably they are green.

 

story:  https://www.oakbayne...o-anawim-house/

 

According to the story they donated 25 damaged bikes that they were about to throw out. I guess a damaged bike is better than no bike but it is not like we started with high end pieces of kit.

[G-Man]

There are definitely places that do good things to help people recover, I'm familiar with several, and donate to them regularly.

Low barrier or other shelters that the poverty pimps run for their own sustenance will never willingly get a dime from me.

Anawim is not just any shelter and certainly not a low barrier shelter.

https://www.anawimho...om/who-we-help/

[rmpeers]

There are definitely places that do good things to help people recover, I'm familiar with several, and donate to them regularly.

Why do you think everyone doesn't just follow a similar model?

[Victoria Watcher]

Why do you think everyone doesn't just follow a similar model?

 

Too niche a market for clients.   it's easier to find those that won't or can't stay off drugs or do not have an interest in bettering their lot.

[Bingo]

I read something about how Saanich needs to get a court injuction to remove the campers because they are 'only' breaking a bylaw. 

Not sure how Stu managed to get rid of them so quickly.  Anyways, Saanich has a court date some time next week.  Hoping they can start removing these people!  

 

Meanwhile over at Camp Cloud at the Kinder Morgan tank farm...

 

On Aug.10, B.C. Supreme Court Justice Geoffrey Gomery granted the city an injunction ordering all camp structures, shelters and vehicles be removed from outside the Kinder Morgan tank farm within 48 hours. 

Since the deadline, some protesters have remained at the camp in defiance of the order, maintaining the court does not have jurisdiction over the site.

In a statement, Burnaby RCMP said there will be an increase police presence in the area and it will be bringing in equipment and personnel in conjunction with the CIty of Burnaby to start removing structures. 

https://www.cbc.ca/n...4787370?cmp=rss

[tjv]

Anawim is not just any shelter and certainly not a low barrier shelter.

https://www.anawimho...om/who-we-help/

I really don't know much about Anawim.  I am not going to put them down, but to me all charities start near the bottom and have to prove themselves to get my money.  Just look at Our Place website, it looks like they help too

 

I hope they are different

[Bingo]

Anawim is not just any shelter and certainly not a low barrier shelter.

https://www.anawimho...om/who-we-help/

Anawim has been around for 30 years.

[Awaiting Juno]

The vast majority of the public would support helping the homeless to become self-sufficient, I get the sense that the vast majority of the public is absolutely appalled and exhausted by the efforts to enable a homeless lifestyle with no viable path towards self-sufficiency.

[mbjj]

My daughter and I were getting out of the car in our driveway today and I saw some random very scruffy guy wander into our yard. My daughter called out, "Can I help you" and he said, do you have work that needs doing. I missed my welfare cheque. Of course, if true, well very sad, but what were we to do? He was a bit scary looking to be quite honest. She just said, no sorry, and he mumbled and walked off. Not sure if he was going to look for something to steal in the yard or what. Maybe he didn't see us in the car? Don't know what to think. Looked very rough, that's for sure.

 

Also saw two tents set up in Beacon Hill at mid-day by some folks who looked more like travellers. They were between the bandshell and the pond that has a lot of water-lilies on top. I thought this was not allowed?

[spanky123]

My daughter and I were getting out of the car in our driveway today and I saw some random very scruffy guy wander into our yard. My daughter called out, "Can I help you" and he said, do you have work that needs doing. I missed my welfare cheque. Of course, if true, well very sad, but what were we to do? He was a bit scary looking to be quite honest. She just said, no sorry, and he mumbled and walked off. Not sure if he was going to look for something to steal in the yard or what. Maybe he didn't see us in the car? Don't know what to think. Looked very rough, that's for sure.

 

Also saw two tents set up in Beacon Hill at mid-day by some folks who looked more like travellers. They were between the bandshell and the pond that has a lot of water-lilies on top. I thought this was not allowed?

 

He was looking to steal something. 

[A Girl is No one]

Yeah I saw a tent pitched in mid afternoon on one of the points yesterday. Pretty sweet spot to camp for free. Why is the city not enforcing the camping by’aws?

[sdwright.vic]

Most likely because all the person has to do is claim to be homeless.

[DustMagnet]

Saw a fellow (and his dog?) surrounded by police (with weapons(s) drawn - according to the SO in passenger seat) at the vacant lot between Ashley Homestore and Six Mile Market on Old Island Hwy this afternoon.  I had seen some evidence of camping at the back of that lot a couple of weeks ago - no idea if related.

[tjv]

WOW.  This article gives a good idea what is going on.  WTF Saanich!!!!!

 

https://www.timescol...ourt-1.23417312

 

Saanich wants the campers out of the park for two to three weeks to allow the district to remove hazardous materials, mow the lawn, prune shrubs and put down eight to 10 inches of wood chips. Meanwhile, the campers can take temporary shelter in any one of 102 of Saanich’s 171 parks.

 

When fire officers asked people to stop smoking in their tents, he said, Brett told them that the residents of Camp Namegans — as residents call the tent city — could do whatever they wanted within their homes.

 

Court heard that on July 4, Saanich Deputy Fire Chief Brock Henson asked one of the residents to put out his lit cigarette. The man did so, but Brett took it, lit it and smoked it in front of Henson.

 

On another occasion, a fire officer asked Brett to move her electrical generator away from her tent. Instead, she moved it inside her tent, Locke said.

 

The company contracted to service the porta-potties has also changed its procedures. On June 29, an employee was shoved, intimidated and harassed while cleaning the toilets, and the company will no longer go to the tent city unless accompanied by police, Locke said.

 

One resident of a nearby house has been threatened with violence three times, Locke said. On one occasion, as the resident was trying to get the licence plate number of a U-Haul van that was unloading furniture next to the tent city, a camper approached him and repeatedly said: “I’ll kill you.”

 

Another time, a camper approached the man and said: “If you’re going to keep complaining about us, the complaint department is hanging from a tree.” The camper pointed at a noose hanging in the encampment with the sign “Complaints Department.”

 

On July 19, a tent-city resident pulled out a knife as he left Save-on-Foods groceries with stolen merchandise. Police have also noticed bicycles in various stages of assembly, freshly painted bicycle frames and components and tools in tents.

[Nparker]

"Namegans" Translation: Anarchy?

[rmpeers]

This is the kind of behaviour that'll win you a mayor's award in Victoria.

[Kilo95]

So is this process to get the campers to leave for a few weeks while they landscape the place separate from the process to permanently remove them? Or is Saanich not attempting to get a court order to have them permanently gone..?

[RFS]

Imagine getting pushed around and harassed by these junkies while you are there to clean their ****ing toilets

[Jason-L]

So is this process to get the campers to leave for a few weeks while they landscape the place separate from the process to permanently remove them? Or is Saanich not attempting to get a court order to have them permanently gone..?

One suspects that if the campers are removed, Saanich will ensure the landscaping make the park less attractive as a tenting spot.

[tjv]

So is this process to get the campers to leave for a few weeks while they landscape the place separate from the process to permanently remove them? Or is Saanich not attempting to get a court order to have them permanently gone..?

The way I am reading the quote from the article is to make the place more comfortable for them.  You have no idea how shocked and pissed I was when I read this 

 

Seriously thou, CoV is going to &^%^&* and now Saanich.  What the hell do hardworking taxpayers do about this mess.  Why do I pay taxes again?

 

Saanich wants the campers out of the park for two to three weeks to allow the district to remove hazardous materials, mow the lawn, prune shrubs and put down eight to 10 inches of wood chips. Meanwhile, the campers can take temporary shelter in any one of 102 of Saanich’s 171 parks.