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#16321 Mike K.

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Posted 09 March 2019 - 06:55 AM

Luckily for VicPD the other day’s carjacking happened on the Saanich side of the border.

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#16322 Nparker

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Posted 09 March 2019 - 08:22 AM

Bring it on!
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#16323 rmpeers

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Posted 09 March 2019 - 09:38 AM

Obviously some big $$ happening at the Johnson St facility. No wonder the "advocates" were so eager to fight for the rights of "guests" to come and go from the building unhindered. I always suspected that fight was more about enabling the drug trade, rather the protecting residents' rights. Am I too cynical?

#16324 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 09 March 2019 - 09:41 AM

it certainly highlights one of the problems of having the spaces considered permanent and under tenancy branch rules.  police having to get search warrants.  


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#16325 VIResident

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Posted 11 March 2019 - 10:11 AM

3 cities in the U.S. have ended chronic homelessness: Here’s how they did it
Nine more have ended veteran homelessness. It’s part of a national program called Built for Zero that uses a data-based approach to help officials figure out exactly who needs what services. Now it’s launching in 50 more cities.

https://www.fastcomp...n_date=03112019



#16326 Cassidy

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Posted 11 March 2019 - 11:00 AM

The "business of poverty" folks in Victoria would never let something this positive occur.

Combined with the fundamental and endless dishonesty associated with nightly homeless statistics in Victoria ... the number of people making a living off the homeless in the COV would protect their paychecks first and foremost.

 

Add into the above mix the ever-scheming SJW's currently occupying Victoria City Hall, and you have a guaranteed "lose/lose" proposition across the board as relates to "fixing" homelessness here in the COV.


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#16327 LJ

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Posted 11 March 2019 - 07:53 PM

3 cities in the U.S. have ended chronic homelessness: Here’s how they did it

Nine more have ended veteran homelessness. It’s part of a national program called Built for Zero that uses a data-based approach to help officials figure out exactly who needs what services. Now it’s launching in 50 more cities.

https://www.fastcomp...n_date=03112019

 

There is certainly some value in what they have done, but in Abilene's case, a city of 120,000, they successfully housed 21 vets and called it a victory.

 

Further on they are talking about people who fell on hard time and just need a hand up, working poor, can't afford market housing, things which most folks are more than willing to help out with.

 

What about the deadbeats that just don't want to work, refuse mental health intervention, shoot up all day long? Those people are never going to be helped unless they are institutionalized.


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Posted 12 March 2019 - 11:20 AM

^ Adele Peters, who wrote that article for Fast Company, also states in another article that only 17% of homeless people in the US “chronically abuse substances; most do not.”

She does not share where she receives her statistics from but I am going to suggest that from a Canadian perspective, that seems low.

In the article linked above she states “Bergen County also committed to a “housing first” approach, meaning that people move into permanent housing as a first step before also getting help with finding a job, mental healthcare, or other issues.”

Until we stand up and shout out and address drug addiction to be the predominant root cause of homelessness and crime instead of burying the ugly fact with terms such as “other issues” the problem will only escalate until our streets are filled with the walking dead.

If you don’t believe me just swing by and park in front of 844 Johnson or “Their Place” on Pandora for 1/2 an hour.

These human beings need “Treatment First” even if they think they don’t. Then and only then can they be housed alongside their fellow homeless.
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#16329 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 12 March 2019 - 11:23 AM

housing first employs a lot more cupe workers.  for "supports".  the other models are not good at that.


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#16330 Nparker

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Posted 12 March 2019 - 11:24 AM

...These human beings need “Treatment First” even if they think they don’t. Then and only then can they be housed alongside their fellow homeless.

If not "treatment first" at least "treatment at the same time as housing".



#16331 rmpeers

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Posted 12 March 2019 - 12:17 PM

Always curious about the CoV's enthusiastic attitude to unlicensed and illegal pot shops, even though folks pointed out that they were quite possibly connected to other parts of the illicit drug trade. I assume it was just the fact that their eyes lit up and saw dollar signs and that presumably made them less concerned about who they were getting into bed with.

In any case, I'd be shocked to ever see our local government try to take a firm stand against street drugs. Because if they did, this city might actually start to make a real step towards reducing homelessness. And if that happened, our thriving poverty industry and its well-compensated executives would be in trouble.
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#16332 Nparker

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Posted 14 March 2019 - 07:32 AM

It looks like Chrissy is going to get a slap on the wrist.

The Crown is recommending a course of restorative justice for a tent city organizer charged with obstructing a firefighter last year.

Chrissy Brett, founder of Saanich’s tent city in Regina Park, was arrested and charged under the Fire Services Act after allegedly blasting an air horn in the ear of a firefighter on July 6...

https://www.timescol...city-1.23662933

 



#16333 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 14 March 2019 - 07:53 AM

It looks like Chrissy is going to get a slap on the wrist.

 

that's a political hot potato people (courts and prosecutors and politicians) are likely to want to avoid.

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#16334 rmpeers

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Posted 14 March 2019 - 08:44 AM

When the courthouse tent city closed, after Chrissy did her stunt of leaving the site and then sneaking back in, there was a rumour that our great mayor instructed VicPD not to arrest her.

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Posted 14 March 2019 - 03:47 PM

Not Victoria, but there will certainly be some nervousness in Vancouver surrounding the upcoming results of the homeless count (conducted March 12-13). Vancouver has built 600 units of temporary modular housing over the last year and a half, so there will be an expectation that there will be a significant dent in last year's final count of 2,181 homeless or sheltered individuals.



#16336 Rob Randall

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Posted 14 March 2019 - 04:20 PM

^Any other initiatives that might move the needle there, like new rent subsidies or people given resources to move to other towns?


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#16337 rmpeers

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Posted 14 March 2019 - 04:38 PM

Not Victoria, but there will certainly be some nervousness in Vancouver surrounding the upcoming results of the homeless count (conducted March 12-13). Vancouver has built 600 units of temporary modular housing over the last year and a half, so there will be an expectation that there will be a significant dent in last year's final count of 2,181 homeless or sheltered individuals.


In Victoria, it seems to be the opposite concern and the numbers seem to be spun to inflate or distort the stats.
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#16338 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 14 March 2019 - 04:44 PM

the city just gave more money our place to extend their summer evening hours. nothing we are doing is going to slow the numbers.
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#16339 rmpeers

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Posted 14 March 2019 - 06:12 PM

No local government has done more to encourage and increase homelessness. Bring it on, indeed.

#16340 VIResident

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Posted 14 March 2019 - 07:15 PM

Cheaper to place homeless into these homes in Vancouver.

 

It’s being reported that dozens of multi-million dollar homes on Vancouver’s westside have come up for rent as a result of the provincial Speculation and Vacancy Tax and the city’s Empty Homes Tax.

The empty homes tax is set at one per cent of the home’s assessed value, while the provincial tax is set at two per cent of assessed value. So, if you own an $8-million home that sits empty for most of the year you will have to cough up $240,000 a year extra in taxes. The easy way around that is to rent out the property, keeping it occupied for most of the year.

 

Here is an example:

2: 4473 West 5th Avenue, Vancouver.

This home is a new build, and even comes with a laneway house. The Point Grey property was purchased in Sept. 2017 for just over $4 million and is now for rent for $6,800 a month. It has six bedrooms and bathrooms and the laneway house has one bedroom.

It’s absolutely new and looks it. I doubt it will go to a group of Irish youth, who are coming to Vancouver more often now (which is nice to see), but at seven rooms that’s still less than $1,000 per person. The listing is here.

 

https://vancouversun...eap-cheap-cheap


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