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#16341 spanky123

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Posted 15 March 2019 - 12:48 PM

^ Note that the underlying story here has changed now that the original '800 mansions' in Vancouver story has been debunked as fabricated.

 

What gets me though is that even assuming that you were allowed to have 7 unrelated people living in one house (which you can't in these neighborhoods) and assuming that the owner would even consider that, would it ever happen? Heck whenever I suggest to someone complaining that rent is $1,400 that they get a roommate I receive the socialist manifesto which dictates that everyone is entitled to their own place located wherever they want at whatever price they want to pay. So having a roommate and paying $700 a month is unreasonable but having 6 roommates and paying $1,000 a month is ok?!


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#16342 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 15 March 2019 - 01:02 PM

yes there are many homes around here that rent for $3000 or $5000. i'm sure almost none of them have 4+ unrelated singles living in them.

 

here is a nice house for 7 singles up on dennison.  $7200.

 

https://victoria.cra...6839476044.html

 

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#16343 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 04 April 2019 - 07:52 AM

this article seems to take the stance “seattle is not so bad now it was worse in the 80’s!”

https://www.seattlet...he-80s-and-90s/

at the same time admitting it’s got a lot worse since 2000.

#16344 Nparker

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Posted 10 April 2019 - 07:59 AM

I'd like to see how the CoV stats compare to this.

Police calls jump near supportive housing sites in Nanaimo...Police say they aren’t surprised. “We certainly expected that,” said Const. Gary O’Brien of Nanaimo RCMP. “When you drop a hundred or so people in any community in close quarters from a situation when they were of no fixed address before, we expect to see some social disorder, we expect to see some criminality.”...

 

https://www.cheknews...nanaimo-550867/

Bring it on indeed. :whyme:



#16345 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 10 April 2019 - 01:11 PM

one of the nanaimo sites also has a fire this week.

#16346 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 10 April 2019 - 06:10 PM

The mayor of Maple Ridge is under fire after accusing homeless people with addictions and social housing residents of "raping and pillaging" his community.

 

The inflammatory comments were made in a 34-minute video uploaded to Mike Morden's YouTube page, in which he's interviewed by public relations specialist Susan Einarrson from Kingman Communications.

 

Morden suggests Maple Ridge is home to nearly a thousand people being supported by the provincial government.

 

 

https://bc.ctvnews.c...unity-1.4374308

 

it's not clear in the article who he is "under fire" from.


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#16347 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 13 April 2019 - 05:02 AM

B.C.’s housing minister is being criticized for wrongly stating there’s been no crime increase around Nanaimo shelters, despite police statistics showing a major spike in drug trafficking and street disorder.

Housing Minister Selina Robinson wrote in an April 4 letter to B.C. Liberal MLA Rich Coleman that his suggestion that crime has increased around supportive housing sites in Nanaimo was incorrect. “I have received confirmation from Nanaimo RCMP that there has been no increase in crime at the sites at 250 Terminal Avenue and 2020 Labieux Road,” she wrote.

However, on April 8, Nanaimo RCMP Supt. Cameron Miller told Nanaimo council that calls for service around the Terminal Avenue shelter had increased 66 per cent when comparing the period Nov. 20, 2018 to March 25, 2019 to the same period a year earlier.

Calls for service around the Labieux Road area increased by 150 per cent versus the same time frame a year earlier.

 

 

 

 

 

https://www.timescol...mmed-1.23790553


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#16348 pennymurphy2000

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Posted 13 April 2019 - 07:26 AM

We ran into the same issues with the courthouse tent city. Calls for service went through the roof but if no charges are laid it doesn't get recorded officially as a crime stat. Frustrating. There has to be a better way to accurately record the real impact these facilities have on neighbourhoods.


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#16349 martini

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Posted 13 April 2019 - 07:39 AM


B.C.’s housing minister is being criticized for wrongly stating there’s been no crime increase around Nanaimo shelters, despite police statistics showing a major spike in drug trafficking and street disorder.

Housing Minister Selina Robinson wrote in an April 4 letter to B.C. Liberal MLA Rich Coleman that his suggestion that crime has increased around supportive housing sites in Nanaimo was incorrect. “I have received confirmation from Nanaimo RCMP that there has been no increase in crime at the sites at 250 Terminal Avenue and 2020 Labieux Road,” she wrote.

However, on April 8, Nanaimo RCMP Supt. Cameron Miller told Nanaimo council that calls for service around the Terminal Avenue shelter had increased 66 per cent when comparing the period Nov. 20, 2018 to March 25, 2019 to the same period a year earlier.

Calls for service around the Labieux Road area increased by 150 per cent versus the same time frame a year earlier.






https://www.timescol...mmed-1.23790553

Jesus. All you have to do is visit Nanaimo. Talk to residents. It's bad! :(
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#16350 Cassidy

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Posted 13 April 2019 - 08:20 AM

Jesus. All you have to do is visit Nanaimo. Talk to residents. It's bad! :(

Shelters always turn into festering boils for one or two blocks in every direction, and they do so by intelligent design.

 

Let's take every drug addict and mentally ill person in town, and condense them into a one block space, then lets count them and discover that there are 50 shelter beds available for 200 people seeking them, then let's be surprised when the 150 people who can't get a bed hang around a three or four block radius from the shelter, 24 hours a day, doing what assorted miscreants who have no income, but who always need money wind up doing.


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#16351 Nparker

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Posted 13 April 2019 - 08:35 AM

...Let's take every drug addict and mentally ill person in town, and condense them into a one block space...

While offering little-to-no treatment options or incentives to get better. Instead, we actively promote self-medication in the guise of "harm reduction".


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#16352 Cassidy

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Posted 13 April 2019 - 08:47 AM

Every time I drive along the 900 Block of Pandora, I don't see the makings of a disaster, I see an actual disaster already underway. 

 

I usually then wonder to myself (or wonder out loud if my daughter is with me) why the COV allows such a hellish scene to play out over an entire city block on a daily basis.

I'm never able to formulate any sort of reasonable answer to that question.



#16353 Nparker

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Posted 13 April 2019 - 08:56 AM

Every time I drive along the 900 Block of Pandora, I don't see the makings of a disaster, I see an actual disaster already underway. I usually then wonder to myself (or wonder out loud if my daughter is with me) why the COV allows such a hellish scene to play out over an entire city block on a daily basis...

As the saying goes, follow the money.


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#16354 spanky123

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Posted 13 April 2019 - 10:41 AM

Every time I drive along the 900 Block of Pandora, I don't see the makings of a disaster, I see an actual disaster already underway. 

 

I usually then wonder to myself (or wonder out loud if my daughter is with me) why the COV allows such a hellish scene to play out over an entire city block on a daily basis.

I'm never able to formulate any sort of reasonable answer to that question.

 

Talk to businesses at the Mayfair mall and ask them how the PHS facility at the old Super 8 is working for them. Pandora is more visible downtown but it is no better elsewhere.



#16355 Mike K.

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Posted 13 April 2019 - 01:22 PM

There is also the Tally Ho facility nearby.

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#16356 Nparker

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Posted 13 April 2019 - 04:20 PM

Talk to businesses at the Mayfair mall and ask them how the PHS facility at the old Super 8 is working for them...

Now why did I immediately read that as PoS facility?



#16357 mbjj

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Posted 13 April 2019 - 06:23 PM

I rarely drive on that stretch of Pandora but sometimes my husband does and he never fails to comment on the "zombies walking out into the road" that he almost hits with his car. My daughter goes to the conservatory of music in the evening and is glad to get out of the area.



#16358 Matt R.

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Posted 13 April 2019 - 11:36 PM

A while ago on salt spring, we had a derelict concrete hulled houseboat torched on the harbour, right in the middle of town. Some of you might remember, it made the news. Total cluster.

Last night, the lady who owns the boat got into her truck and rammed the squat of some guy (Roger) who was, essentially, living on the MOTI ROW in front of her trailer, a block off the main drag in Ganges. Buddy had a wood burning stove outside of his tent, and I don’t mean a fireplace. Rammed it over and over, apparently. No one was hurt, but it’s a huge mess.

What is happening out there these days? Used to be people like that lived on their boats or in the bush.

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#16359 GabriolaGirl

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Posted 14 April 2019 - 09:15 AM

Jesus. All you have to do is visit Nanaimo. Talk to residents. It's bad! :(

A friend of ours who lives in Brechin where the new shelter is, is on the neighbourhood committee, he says calling it bad is an understatement.  Anything and everything has been taken from balconies, back yards for blocks around the new housing, people don't feel safe in their own yards.  The law office behind the new housing has put in even more cameras than they had before due to so much damage done to property.  There is 24/7 security in/out of the compound.  Every time we drive by the RCMP are there.

It's a shame really, it was such a beautiful neighbourhood full of people who really took an interest in their part of the city.   



#16360 Mike K.

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Posted 14 April 2019 - 09:18 AM

For those may not be familiar with Nanaimo, Brechin is immediately west of the downtown BC Ferries terminal. The neighbourhood isn’t much different from Gordon Head.
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