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[A Girl is No one]

Victoria Police attended the 900-block of Pandora Avenue early Tuesday morning after receiving calls of a stabbing.

Police found a man who had been stabbed outside of Our Place at 919 Pandora Ave.

https://www.vicnews....ntown-victoria/

[Jason-L]

Victoria Police attended the 900-block of Pandora Avenue early Tuesday morning after receiving calls of a stabbing.

Police found a man who had been stabbed outside of Our Place at 919 Pandora Ave.

https://www.vicnews....ntown-victoria/

Holy cow, the news report actually identified the name of the place where the crime occurred, rather than leaving it the generic 900-block of Pandora?!

 

I wonder if this is a result of the city nixing the police budget, and so the VicPD no longer have an incentive to be evasive?

[Victoria Watcher]

denver voters said no to homeless camping in parks.


As of preliminary results released at 1 a.m. Wednesday, Initiative 300 was headed for defeat with 83 percent of voters saying “no” and 17 percent saying “yes.” Results won’t be certified until later this month.

https://www.thedenve...ping-initiative

[Mike K.]

Denver has also decriminalized ‘mushrooms.’

[tjv]

Victoria Police attended the 900-block of Pandora Avenue early Tuesday morning after receiving calls of a stabbing.

Police found a man who had been stabbed outside of Our Place at 919 Pandora Ave.

https://www.vicnews....ntown-victoria/

Uhhh, aren't they always there?  When I drove by Sunday night there were 3 cop cars in attendance.  The entire scene looked like the Vancouver downtown east side.  What a disgusting mess CoV!

[DustMagnet]

denver voters said no to homeless camping in parks.


As of preliminary results released at 1 a.m. Wednesday, Initiative 300 was headed for defeat with 83 percent of voters saying “no” and 17 percent saying “yes.” Results won’t be certified until later this month.

https://www.thedenve...ping-initiative

 

View Royal is heading the other way: https://www.timescol...arks-1.23821623

 

[rmpeers]

Holy cow, the news report actually identified the name of the place where the crime occurred, rather than leaving it the generic 900-block of Pandora?!

I wonder if this is a result of the city nixing the police budget, and so the VicPD no longer have an incentive to be evasive?

Somebody better get cracking on a letter to the editor about how safe they feel walking that block.

[Nparker]

It must just about be time for Chrissy Brett to start up her homeless camp roadshow for 2019.

[pennymurphy2000]

https://www.cbc.ca/n...u-100-1.5145364

 

Penticton bylaw makes sitting on downtown sidewalks a $100 offence

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[Victoria Watcher]

Anna Cooper with Pivot Legal Society, said the mayor's depiction of homeless people as being intimidating is dangerous.

"We know that talking about homeless people in that way promotes violence against them. Homeless people are by far the ones who are in danger in any community because of exposure, and because of anti-homeless violence itself," she said.

But the mayor is adamant that all citizens will be treated equally by bylaw officers, regardless of appearance.

"Whether you wear a three-piece suit or you're wearing torn jeans and a torn shirt, makes no difference. The bylaw people will talk to you nicely," Vassilaki said.

 

 

 

 

https://www.cbc.ca/n...u-100-1.5145364

[DustMagnet]

Really, what is the point of fining a homeless person?

[Victoria Watcher]

none . but it’s a way of stopping the behaviour.

[Mike K.]

And so the tide begins to turn.

This will be interesting to watch.

Take note next time you’re downtown. The old school folks asking for money on downtown streets are almost always standing, as per Victoria bylaws. To this day, if they can, they respect that bylaw. The young ones almost always are sitting, laying or converged in groups on the sidewalk.

[DustMagnet]

none . but it’s a way of stopping the behaviour.

 

There's no point, and it's going to stop the behaviour?  How does it stop the behaviour?  In order to have leverage over someone that person has to have something to lose.

[tjv]

 

https://www.cbc.ca/n...u-100-1.5145364

 

Penticton bylaw makes sitting on downtown sidewalks a $100 offence

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While I'm not disagreeing with the bylaw, how to they propose to actually get them to pay

 

I can see the homeless person responding as they receive the ticket "and what is the fine for littering?" as they crumple and throw the ticket away

[Mike K.]

Repeat offenders who refuse to abide by bylaws and who accrue multiple infractions end up before a judge who decides whether a jail sentence, a significant fine, or both, are warranted.

The system has teeth if a jurisdiction is willing to use them.

[tjv]

^uhhh, I really really doubt that jail is an option, but if you have some case law I would be interested in reading that

 

Even if it was true

 

a) jail sentence - you don't think the homeless haven't been in jail before, they probably look at it like its a warm bed to sleep in with free hot meals

 

b) significant fine, aka you might find the paperwork on the corridor on the floor outside the courtroom.  What are they going to do seize a portion of their welfare cheque or seize some assets aka their shopping cart?

[Victoria Watcher]

most homeless change their behaviour if you ask / tell them to. solidifies that.

[Nparker]

most homeless change their behaviour if you ask / tell them to...

Chrissy Brett notwithstanding.

[Mike K.]

Just call your lawyer and have a chat with him about the repercussions related to defying bylaws.