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#16481 Daveyboy

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Posted 08 July 2019 - 03:53 PM

Don't forget the Coroner.

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#16482 Mike K.

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Posted 08 July 2019 - 04:19 PM

I was watching a documentary on LA’s intense homelessness issues in and around its 50-block skid row district. Apparently when the city setup a bunch of portapotties the criminal element took control and started charging people to use them.

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#16483 LJ

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Posted 08 July 2019 - 07:20 PM

I was watching a documentary on LA’s intense homelessness issues in and around its 50-block skid row district. Apparently when the city setup a bunch of portapotties the criminal element took control and started charging people to use them.

LA's and Seattle and Portland and SFO and Victoria and Vancouver do not have a homeless issue. We have a workless issue. When you normalize drug use, when you normalize street camping, when you aid and assist them with their drugs, when you give them money for nothing, when you don't arrest and prosecute them for open criminality, it's society that has a problem. We have to change that before we can tackle housing for those who truly are the working poor, I will go to bat for them, for the bums on the streets - forget about it.


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#16484 Mike K.

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Posted 08 July 2019 - 08:28 PM

The solution, according to a social worker being interviewed for the piece, were house keys. He said house keys would solve everything.

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#16485 pennymurphy2000

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Posted 08 July 2019 - 09:06 PM

If house keys solved everything Victoria wouldn't be in the state it is in now. Every year our homeless numbers go up despite the government spending millions of dollars on new housing. 


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#16486 Cassidy

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Posted 08 July 2019 - 09:09 PM

The simple truth about homelessness is that it's perpetrated by human beings incredible ability to adapt to any situation.

 

In a past life, I was required to move up North to work. I lived in an 12 X 12 foot skid-shack for 5 months. It had a toilet in one room, and a bed in the other room. 

I nearly puked when it was first shown to me as my abode for the next almost half a year ... but by the end of the term, I was in love with the place and realized I could not only live in a 12 X 12 skid-shack, I could easily live in an 8 X 8 skid shack.

 

In LA (for example) you pitch your tent on the sidewalk, it's usually pretty warm, there are tons of folks around in a similar situation as your own, and there's absolutely zero stigma attached to your being broke and living in a tent on the sidewalk.

Six months later, you don't need anything else ... this is your lifestyle, and you're fine with it.

The drugs and/or mental illness are all still a major part of your problems ... but the point is that you're now completely comfortable with your living situation, your place of residence, and your future ... You're human, and you've done what humans have done for multiple milennia ... you've adapted!

 

My point would be that I (and you as well) could live in a tent on a city sidewalk if we had to. We wouldn't die (at least right away) and once we got over the initial hurdle of how far we had fallen in life ... we'd be making out just fine relative to those around us, and to our situation in general.

 

All of the above is why the COV's endless pandering to homeless folks, and their offer of what is essentially a free downtown condo is an incredibly bad idea.  Because these folks who have taken advantage of the COV's bad management will never go anywhere else. Human nature has guaranteed that they now have zero incentive to leave their "room" or move to a proper domicile, they have no incentive to raise themselves up in life ... not because they're mentally ill or addicted to drugs, but rather because they've completely adapted, and they're literally now perfectly fine with their lot in life, with their living situation, and with their future ... they will be perfectly "content" to remain in their present situation until their dying day.

 

"Human Adaptability" ... the two words that Helps and her minions have constantly overlooked, and the words that will ultimately come back to bite not only all of our current Councillors (even if only in their memory), but the entire COV and its residents as a whole ... and bite it will, no doubt in a wide variety of ways.


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#16487 spanky123

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Posted 09 July 2019 - 06:33 AM

^ The impact goes further. To provide the free housing for the homeless, hundreds of units of affordable, low end housing have been removed from the rental pool. Those people who would have been tenants are now forced to take on a second job or work longer hours in order to pay for the next level of accommodations and the additional taxes required to cover the homeless costs. After a period of time, many of those people start to ask themselves why. They can quit their jobs and get everything for free, or they can continue to work harder and longer hours just to stay where they are. As a society we start to reward those who don't contribute and penalize those who do. As the saying goes, what gets rewarded gets done.


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#16488 aastra

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Posted 09 July 2019 - 09:01 AM

 

In a past life, I was required to move up North to work. I lived in an 12 X 12 foot skid-shack for 5 months.

 

12 x 12? So a luxury apartment, you mean?


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#16489 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 15 July 2019 - 06:56 PM

It seems to me that every time I visit, I’m challenged to navigate through a downtown that appears to be waging war against itself. Whether it’s a demonstration by the Proud Boys or a counter-demonstration by Antifa, an unruly Pride Festival that closed off access to the train station (we nearly missed our ride home) or a frightening late night walk through Old Town (think John Carpenter’s “Escape from New York”), one gets the sense that the city essentially handed the keys to the kingdom over to the people and has given them free rein to do as they wish whenever or wherever they please.

 

Portland has a homeless and substance-abuse crisis — I get it. Seattle has the same thing, as does just about every major metropolitan area in our country. But that’s no excuse for turning a blind eye to the damage being done.

 

 

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#16490 VIResident

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Posted 16 July 2019 - 05:43 AM

Double whammy to local taxpayer - no supportive housing AND the cost to renovate this for Saanich staff.    

Some Saanich staff to move to former Emily Carr library site

 

"......In June last year, former Saanich mayor Richard Atwell proposed turning the space into a supportive housing facility as a solution to the tent city that developed in nearby Regina Park. Council voted against Atwell’s motion."

 

 

 

https://www.timescol...site-1.23884516


Edited by VIResident, 16 July 2019 - 05:43 AM.


 



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