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[Bob Fugger]

Island Voices: Victoria’s densification push is unfair

 

The TL;dr of this article is basically leave Gonzales alone because of all Victoria neighbourhoods, it has disproportionately shouldered the load of increased densification.  He writes this after the draft OCP for Gonzales envisions a moratorium on the subdivision of the larger estates into smaller, more dense property uses.  Also, densification may be good, just not here.

 

And the writer, Michael Bloomfied, must be right because he is a "sustainability advocate and a resident of Gonzales."

 

http://www.timescolo...fair-1.23352503

[Nparker]

...leave Gonzales alone because of all Victoria neighbourhoods, it has disproportionately shouldered the load of increased densification....

- Michael Bloomfied
  resident of Gonzales

[PPPdev]

https://twitter.com/...1107416064?s=21

[Nparker]

Only 31 additional residents in the Gonzales area in 45 years? That must be a new record in NIMBYism.

[Mike K.]

Ahh yes, this sort of stuff is the reason why VV got going in the first place.

 

You long-timers remember when we wrote in letters to the editor back in 02-03, in response to classics like "seven-storey towers" and "more buildings will kill the tourism trade?"

[PPPdev]

Only 31 additional residents in the Gonzales area in 45 years? That must be a new record in NIMBYism.

 

Nope, that record goes to...Rockland, surprise!

 

1971-2016: a decline of 17 people so a growth rate of minus 0.39 people per year

[Nparker]

Nope, that record goes to...Rockland...

So I guess we'll be hearing from concerned Rockland residents soon about dangerous densification of their area.

[spanky123]

So I guess we'll be hearing from concerned Rockland residents soon about dangerous densification of their area.

 

These debates always tend to circle back to the classic those who live here vs those who don't points of view. At election time though, the only people with the vote are the ones who live here! 

[aastra]

And the guy who arrived yesterday is immediately a card-carrying member of the "those who live here" group.

[Jacques Cadé]

Nope, that record goes to...Rockland, surprise!

 

1971-2016: a decline of 17 people so a growth rate of minus 0.39 people per year

 

Source?

[PPPdev]

StatCan, census period analysis

[Rob Randall]

Nope, that record goes to...Rockland, surprise!

 

1971-2016: a decline of 17 people so a growth rate of minus 0.39 people per year

 

I was talking to a City Councillor about this silliness today. Basically you can arrive at any number you want by cherry-picking a specific timeline.

[PPPdev]

I don’t follow how taking a very simple population growth change over a 45 year period is cherry picking? Even if we narrow down to the last 15 years, the trend remains...no change

1971: 3679 (just for reference)
2001: 3578
2006: 3565
2011: 3488
2016: 3662

I could understand your point using percentages but just raw pop data, can you elaborate?

[Freedom57]

StatCan, census period analysis

 

Would you be so kind and share the link at StatCan where you can drill down for this much detail?  I was on the site and couldn't figure out how to drill down to neighborhood level, as well as that far back in time.  Thanks!

Edited by Freedom57, 04 July 2018 - 06:55 AM.

[PPPdev]

It's a special order semi-custom census profile, they've been ordered for every neighbourhood in the City 

[Casual Kev]

Not to derail the thread too much, but are those semi-custom neighborhood census profiles made available by the CoV?

[Nparker]

Here's the strangest comment yet regarding increased density in the CoV:

On the issue of the pros and cons of Victoria’s densification process, nobody mentions that we are in for “The Big One” any time now...

http://www.timescolo...room-1.23360711

I am assuming the author is anti-densification because an earthquake is just going to knock it all down anyway. Huh? 

[sdwright.vic]

Yeah the entire west coast is facing that. Including Vancouver. Have they stopped?

[Casual Kev]

Here's the strangest comment yet regarding increased density in the CoV:

I am assuming the author is anti-densification because an earthquake is just going to knock it all down anyway. Huh? 

 

yeah I'm sure all the woodframe SFH's out there are the pinnacle of seismically sound architecture /s

[Nparker]

Yeah the entire west coast is facing that. Including Vancouver...

And "any time now" could be later today or 500 years from now. Let's stop any sort of development, just in case.